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clover

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My thoughts exactly. The situation with Seven and Avina got me feeling like Ignis and Seeker bs. If Seven is supposed to be with Avina (“they are so perfect for each other”) then don’t make them a RO ffs. I got an ick from it. Honestly, it is hypocritical, author has stated that they are perfect for each other but also said that Seven is not even thinking about Avina in that way. Author is shipping those two but also trying to fanservice the fans with Seven as a RO. Parallel with A Trial of Heroes (ATOH is another level of insanity) is insane. The potential in the story is there if the author actually makes MC’s music have impact on story and not just because of MC’s (mostly Seven’s) beef with MC.

I thought I was the only one who was eerily reminded of the ignis situation because of Savina. The way Amy answers asks on Tumblr feels like she thinks avina is a better partner (both platonically and romantically) for seven. Especially when I haven't heard the author say anything against Avina's saviour complex and unhealthy obsession/clinginess towards seven.
 

Sant

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Probably unpopular opinion, but Path of Martial Arts.
I mean, sure it was fairly reasonable from the writer to remove same-s3x relationships with the ROs from the game, because of the russian's government (which is bullsh1t), otherwise they would've been arrested or forced to delete the wip. What really killed for me was the fact that Jing-guo was not an option anymore. I was there for the fights, character building and stuff but this was a letdown... I guess the writer was right abt the game representing a dark, unfairly world.
 

juno . ⊹ ˖

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i used to like summer of love but the enjoyment dwindled down. i don’t understand how the main focus is romancing whoever you want [it’s dollar store love island] but refuse to give the mc an actual choice on who they want to date / pair with? i dunno. dating show concepts aren’t for me. since the author said this on their tumblr:
Straight up? Every single character will be into other people throughout the game - Anwar is not unusual, I think Noah is the only person to not state that he's into someone else but even then, that won't last. But Anwar is one of the least dramatic routes when it comes to the ROs getting to know other people, so let's leave it at that.
in short, the people you pair with are into other people throughout the game?? yeah, no thanks. i get that its a dating show BUT mc doesn’t even get to pick who they pair up with FIRST so they’re left with the second choices and you’re telling me that not even my second choice wants my mc?? 😓 heartbreaking. mc has no rizz, apparently … this isn’t supposed to happen !!!!!!! (save my mc)
 

artherjay

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the only reason I like seven is that I can keep them as ex, for the drama. But actively romancing them??? yeah no.

Seven kinda remind me of that opportunist RO from the cog game where the mc is professor in magical school like hogwarts. I don't remember the name of the game nor the ro name, but good lord i despise them.
They constantly belittle mc and cutting them, even though we play as the most polite bastard ever.
Oh I remember that book, is this ro the one who backstabbed mc to get the opportunity when they graduated? And at the beginning of the story when they meet again, they weren't even a bit of sorry and still claimed that mc deserved that betray. Damn I remember how sick it made me
 

Grace5963

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i used to like summer of love but the enjoyment dwindled down. i don’t understand how the main focus is romancing whoever you want [it’s dollar store love island] but refuse to give the mc an actual choice on who they want to date / pair with? i dunno. dating show concepts aren’t for me. since the author said this on their tumblr:

in short, the people you pair with are into other people throughout the game?? yeah, no thanks. i get that its a dating show BUT mc doesn’t even get to pick who they pair up with FIRST so they’re left with the second choices and you’re telling me that not even my second choice wants my mc?? 😓 heartbreaking. mc has no rizz, apparently … this isn’t supposed to happen !!!!!!! (save my mc)
The author confirmed that's not what they meant.

Every character on SOL will want to get to know other people as well as you, which means they are interested. This doesn't mean they won't want you in the end, and this doesn't mean they will cheat - the whole concept is to find love, but they're not in an exclusive relationship with you from the moment you couple up. You have to play your cards right with certain routes (Amber, Izzie/Theo throuple, etc), don't get me wrong, but if you're romancing them, they're going to want you by the end for a long healthy relationship, if that's what you want.
Like they're gonna want you, but the ROs are curious about other people. That's okay, but it would be really boring if they were all in on you from day one - what's the point?
 

eyesonme

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Oh I remember that book, is this ro the one who backstabbed mc to get the opportunity when they graduated? And at the beginning of the story when they meet again, they weren't even a bit of sorry and still claimed that mc deserved that betray. Damn I remember how sick it made me
That was Professor of Magical Studies
 

kecap asin

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Oh I remember that book, is this ro the one who backstabbed mc to get the opportunity when they graduated? And at the beginning of the story when they meet again, they weren't even a bit of sorry and still claimed that mc deserved that betray. Damn I remember how sick it made me
That was Professor of Magical Studies
Oh yeah this book.
Their action even cause the other student to DROP OUT of school, and somehow mc got all the blame because of their action.

There is not a single good quality of that ro and they are not even the main antagonist.
 

Sant

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Oh yeah this book.
Their action even cause the other student to DROP OUT of school, and somehow mc got all the blame because of their action.

There is not a single good quality of that ro and they are not even the main antagonist.
Apparently they were meant to be an abusive ro.
 

artherjay

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So I have a look at that latest infamous q&a(yeah I know my fault) and man how I'm glad I'm never interested in 7 and getting between G&V's drama. And it's kinda funny how they're like oh music is our life. Cause like someone else mentioned before, music really isn't playing much a role in the story so far. Hell, even if we make it an architect show or lawyer show or something, the story can still go on without any difference.
 

artherjay

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Yeah I decide to spam this thread with another post lol. So I'm gonna complain about a common setting. Simply said, Mc (the bastard), queen (the villain), king (the oh-so-protective father). The story always has a beginning with the scene where queen is upset about MC and maybe curse them, shout at them, or whatever. Then oh-so-fatherly king will show up and shout at queen, sent her away or whatever. And MC will always be king's favorate one. Then the story always features with king and at least the eldest son (also a villain for a very short time) dead. And then boom somehow MC is the only one they can rely on and queen is definitely not happy and shout at them Why isn't you that get killed. One typical game with this setting is ItFO.
This setting always confuses me a lot, cause let's be honestly, the queen has any reason to be angry. She is also a victim in this so I never really blame her for how she treats MC. But no she always shows up as a villain and never as another victim. And the one really should be blame for this drama, the king, oh my he always shows up as perfect protective father to MC. Most of time MC will never ever have the thought hey shouldn't the one who can't control where his d**k ends be blame for all the s**t I went through.
Another complain I have with ItFO is how author try to write a MC suffered from PTSD but it's so wrong I really hope people won't get wrong idea. Then in the end a female ro gonna be so eager to fix MC it disgusts me to no end. As someone who once suffered from depression, this altitude is definitely wrong, and you should never ever treat anyone suffered from mental problem this way. I really hope author gonna do more research with their next book.
 

Sokrates

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Yeah I decide to spam this thread with another post lol. So I'm gonna complain about a common setting. Simply said, Mc (the bastard), queen (the villain), king (the oh-so-protective father). The story always has a beginning with the scene where queen is upset about MC and maybe curse them, shout at them, or whatever. Then oh-so-fatherly king will show up and shout at queen, sent her away or whatever. And MC will always be king's favorate one. Then the story always features with king and at least the eldest son (also a villain for a very short time) dead. And then boom somehow MC is the only one they can rely on and queen is definitely not happy and shout at them Why isn't you that get killed. One typical game with this setting is ItFO.
This setting always confuses me a lot, cause let's be honestly, the queen has any reason to be angry. She is also a victim in this so I never really blame her for how she treats MC. But no she always shows up as a villain and never as another victim. And the one really should be blame for this drama, the king, oh my he always shows up as perfect protective father to MC. Most of time MC will never ever have the thought hey shouldn't the one who can't control where his d**k ends be blame for all the s**t I went through.
Another complain I have with ItFO is how author try to write a MC suffered from PTSD but it's so wrong I really hope people won't get wrong idea. Then in the end a female ro gonna be so eager to fix MC it disgusts me to no end. As someone who once suffered from depression, this altitude is definitely wrong, and you should never ever treat anyone suffered from mental problem this way. I really hope author gonna do more research with their next book.
1. The father never cared for the bastard MC. The only feeling he associated with MC was guilt of making a mess he couldn't fix thanks to having his brain on his dick that one time.

2. The one "oh-so-caring" was Belos, the half-sibling who got himself and more than half of the army killed due to his unrivaled stupidity. Even that cowardly, back-stabbing traitor was smarter. Later on, it was the half-sister, the queen which scolded her mother every time she hurled abuse at MC.

3. While I can agree to a degree on the way the PTSD was written, I'll have to say this: If you think having suffered from depression is anything like suffering from PTSD ( a complex and "uncured" PTSD as MCs) you are sorely mistaken. Nobody can even fathom the torture it is to live with it, especially one which was rooted to childhood trauma, caused by the very family who was supposed to raise and make you feel safe. Add to that the traumas he experienced as a soldier, and you'll have someone worse than MC, but alas, that's how much one can manage to understand of PTSD by reading psychological articles (depression, anxiety, paranoia, self-harming to give them a sense of control, zero self-confidence and guilt for even breathing among others... we just touched the surface). I assure you, the MC we got in ITFO is way tamer than he'd be if existing in reality.
 

darklord4444

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Don't Wake Me Up. They are two paths one for each romance Len and Asterius with multiple endings each, and all but one of them are bad ones. Even if you romance Asterius they won't show up in the final chapter and they die in all their endings but one thanks to Len killing them or tricking you into doing it for him. What about your MC dies or goes to jail for something that happens before the game started. Your stats don't matter and neither does the relationship bar sure we got along great before you help me with my dream but I can't forgive you for not romancing me so off you go. Seriously the game is determined to punish your MC for being bad despite having no memories at the start of the game and not recovering them until the last chapter possibly making the character you play someone who would have never done those things but the character the author made did so obviously your character has to pay to for that. And for that one ending where Asterius doesn't die ? They grow tired of being with you after three years and kill you no matter what your score with them is, why ? Because only someone evil (like the MC) will ever romance Asterius. This is the main flaw of the game it is not just spiteful it is hypocritical it will create a character that is made to be likable(anyone who calls their character the Ultimate Video Game ‘Best Girl’ Waifu knows what they are doing) then it will claim the MC (and by extension you) are bad for liking them or it will say the MC deserves to be punished for choosing a fantasy over reality when many people who play video games ( especially ones like these ) are doing the same and yet the author chose to do this video game despite knowing all of this to pretend to make something they wanted take their money and at the end just preach and punish them for wanting something she had decided was wrong. Maybe the Len endings are better but even if you could choose to make him a girl (like with Asterius) after my experience I just don't care to try. But there is one silver lining among all these bad endings despite Len killing you because of author fiat or that his route has more content than the Asterius one or the only good ending in the game, in one of the Asterius endings you can sentence Len to a fate worse than death before going to jail so that was fun.
 
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Re336

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(First of all, I must apologize because English is not my mother tongue so I was having a hard time choosing the right words. So I'm sorry if I offend anyone with this)
Lost in your eyes. I just hate Marcus Blaine :")). It feels like the author is trying so hard to make the reader like him. I can't act nice towards Marcus without some romance undertones. Literally, the dialogue options for Marcus are either A) you are nice and in love with him or B) you are a mean b*tch and hate his guts. It frustrates me because the author always depicts the MC as a bad person when they don't like Marcus back. And it doesn't help because Marcus always forces himself on the MC. Like that one time he kisses the MC without consent and when he hugs MC (multiple times) without consent. But then, consent was never really a thing in this story. When asked about it, the MC is either really rude, or really suggestive, or they're just a blushing mess they can't even give a proper answer. Why can't MC just see Marcus as a friend? Why must MC be smitten with Marcus? And why does it feel like we're being punished for not liking Marcus back? I don't like the way Marcus feels like he's a being that's meant to be admired and worshipped (like for example he's always described as angelic multiple times and that he's always nice despite the MC was being mean to him). It's not wrong, but I guess it's just the way the author wrote it that it just feels empty? I don't know how to describe it I'm sorry. Like he's not all that despite the story told us so. I also noticed the author tends to describe everyone sexually. You'll literally find perverted MC thinking about someone they just met like "Their face and hot body makes me want to drool",while pure MC just describe it as "someone whose face makes me smile"
So yeah that's my rant haha
 
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kecap asin

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Then in the end a female ro gonna be so eager to fix MC it disgusts me to no end. As someone who once suffered from depression, this altitude is definitely wrong, and you should never ever treat anyone suffered from mental problem this way. I really hope author gonna do more research with their next book.
Tbh the author DID warn the reader that the RO will be somewhat want to "fix" MC. If you follow the earlier progress that is. And from what i remember, the author seems a bit reluctant to add ros in the first place.
It does not mean it's the best storyline nor a proper one tho. There's some flaw for sure.
 

Re336

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Don't Wake Me Up. They are two paths one for each romance Len and Asterius with multiple endings each, and all but one of them are bad ones. Even if you romance Asterius they won't show up in the final chapter and they die in all their endings but one thanks to Len killing them or tricking you into doing it for him. What about your MC dies or goes to jail for something that happens before the game started. Your stats don't matter and neither does the relationship bar sure we got along great before you help me with my dream but I can't forgive you for not romancing me so off you go. Seriously the game is determined to punish your MC for being bad despite having no memories at the start of the game and not recovering them until the last chapter possibly making the character you play someone who would have never done those things but the character the author made did so obviously your character has to pay to for that. And for that one ending where Asterius doesn't die ? They grow tired of being with you after three years and kill you no matter what your score with them is, why ? Because only someone evil (like the MC) will ever romance Asterius. This is the main flaw of the game it is not just spiteful it is hypocritical it will create a character that is made to be likable(anyone who calls their character the Ultimate Video Game ‘Best Girl’ Waifu knows what they are doing) then it will claim the MC (and by extension you) are bad for liking them or it will say the MC deserves to be punished for choosing a fantasy over reality when many people who play video games ( especially ones like these ) are doing the same and yet the author chose to do this video game despite knowing all of this to pretend to make something they wanted take their money and at the end just preach and punish them for wanting something he had decided was wrong. Maybe the Len endings are better but even if you could choose to make him a girl (like with Asterius) after my experience I just don't care to try. But there is one silver lining among all these bad endings despite Len killing you because of author fiat or that his route has more content than the Asterius one or the only good ending in the game, in one of the Asterius endings you can sentence Len to a fate worse than death before going to jail so that was fun.
I dropped this game after I get Len bad ending 😂. I tried to achieve the good ending (by not sexualizing Len, but I did still try to pursue a relationship with him) but I failed, I don't know where I did wrong. I don't want to go through the pain of reading it all over again so I just dropped it 😂.
Oh my god I didn't know about asterius ending. I don't understand it, how come MC is evil? I only know that MC made Asterius and fall in love in them. Then the MC made some kind of game or virtual space where it's possible to meet these characters (cmiiw). What's so evil about that? I genuinely don't understand
 

Vamp-kun

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Don't Wake Me Up. They are two paths one for each romance Len and Asterius with multiple endings each, and all but one of them are bad ones. Even if you romance Asterius they won't show up in the final chapter and they die in all their endings but one thanks to Len killing them or tricking you into doing it for him. What about your MC dies or goes to jail for something that happens before the game started. Your stats don't matter and neither does the relationship bar sure we got along great before you help me with my dream but I can't forgive you for not romancing me so off you go. Seriously the game is determined to punish your MC for being bad despite having no memories at the start of the game and not recovering them until the last chapter possibly making the character you play someone who would have never done those things but the character the author made did so obviously your character has to pay to for that. And for that one ending where Asterius doesn't die ? They grow tired of being with you after three years and kill you no matter what your score with them is, why ? Because only someone evil (like the MC) will ever romance Asterius. This is the main flaw of the game it is not just spiteful it is hypocritical it will create a character that is made to be likable(anyone who calls their character the Ultimate Video Game ‘Best Girl’ Waifu knows what they are doing) then it will claim the MC (and by extension you) are bad for liking them or it will say the MC deserves to be punished for choosing a fantasy over reality when many people who play video games ( especially ones like these ) are doing the same and yet the author chose to do this video game despite knowing all of this to pretend to make something they wanted take their money and at the end just preach and punish them for wanting something he had decided was wrong. Maybe the Len endings are better but even if you could choose to make him a girl (like with Asterius) after my experience I just don't care to try. But there is one silver lining among all these bad endings despite Len killing you because of author fiat or that his route has more content than the Asterius one or the only good ending in the game, in one of the Asterius endings you can sentence Len to a fate worse than death before going to jail so that was fun.
Ahhh, that one masterpiece of preaching and spiteful hatred towards the gamers by the author — think it's a she, however all food looks just as food to me.
Anyway, moving on.
I really enjoyed Asterius as a feminine character and really wished to help her. Initially, when I got to the part where we end up in a future high-tech world, I was of a mind that the game everyone was playing, messed up their memories and that they were all friends once, wishing to escape their corporatist overlords. Something like a Sword Art Online without the fights.
I'd have given a dozen peasants for such a story! It would sell like a sweaty peasant girl locked up in one of my castle's towers!

Instead, we got preaching. I can preach too, you know. However, I don't exsanquinate my peasants and then tell them it's their fault for staying because I promised them safety, good work, huge salaries, and a place in the history of my realms for a tiny price!
 

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Sword of Rhivenia: Back then, the demo looked really promising. However, the actual product turned out to be lackluster in every possible way. Most of the stats did absolutely nothing, and it probably had the most unrealistic representation of medieval times I've seen in Choice of Games.From soldiers and peasants having no fear to laugh and insult nobles and when they do they face no repercussions, to another king (the father of the prince who ended up as a hostage) acting like a vassal towards the other monarch (the MC's father), kingdom going into bankruptcy because they purchased antidote lol....
The romance options were terrible: Clara, who was extremely bland and boring; Rhenva, who fell in love with the MC after just two interactions (at least she wasn't boring, I guess); and don't even get me started on the enemy princess.
Also, the sequel is dead, so I don't know why anyone would even read this book anymore.

Arcadie: Second Born - Apart from the fact that the author basically lied about the plot of the game - "you will be able to rule alongside your sister or oppose her" - the sister dies two pages into the game after the demo ends.

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You get a mediocre experience where most of the choices don't matter at all. A supposed war that only has a single battle, which happens basically at the beginning, and the MC isn't even the one leading it. There are only three romance options (if I remember correctly), one of which completely changes as a character once you enter a relationship, another can betray you, and the last one literally slaughters your family (really romantic indeed).

Grand Academy II: Attack of the Sequel - a "sequel" which completely ignores one of the main routes of the first game, my bad it doesnt ignore it author just tolds you "sorry guys that route aint a thing anymore, play the other one though!".Felt robbed even though I pirated the game

A Kiss from Death - A game which was extremely hyped at launch and even to this day has its fans, felt more like reading a Wikipedia page rather than an interactive book. How am I supposed to care about a book and its characters when there are constant time skips of around like 100 years, which just lead to new settings and characters? Well, tastes differ, I guess.
 

Zeus

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Sword of Rhivenia: Back then, the demo looked really promising. However, the actual product turned out to be lackluster in every possible way. Most of the stats did absolutely nothing, and it probably had the most unrealistic representation of medieval times I've seen in Choice of Games.From soldiers and peasants having no fear to laugh and insult nobles and when they do they face no repercussions, to another king (the father of the prince who ended up as a hostage) acting like a vassal towards the other monarch (the MC's father), kingdom going into bankruptcy because they purchased antidote lol....
The romance options were terrible: Clara, who was extremely bland and boring; Rhenva, who fell in love with the MC after just two interactions (at least she wasn't boring, I guess); and don't even get me started on the enemy princess.
Also, the sequel is dead, so I don't know why anyone would even read this book anymore.

Arcadie: Second Born - Apart from the fact that the author basically lied about the plot of the game - "you will be able to rule alongside your sister or oppose her" - the sister dies two pages into the game after the demo ends.

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You get a mediocre experience where most of the choices don't matter at all. A supposed war that only has a single battle, which happens basically at the beginning, and the MC isn't even the one leading it. There are only three romance options (if I remember correctly), one of which completely changes as a character once you enter a relationship, another can betray you, and the last one literally slaughters your family (really romantic indeed).

Grand Academy II: Attack of the Sequel - a "sequel" which completely ignores one of the main routes of the first game, my bad it doesnt ignore it author just tolds you "sorry guys that route aint a thing anymore, play the other one though!".Felt robbed even though I pirated the game

A Kiss from Death - A game which was extremely hyped at launch and even to this day has its fans, felt more like reading a Wikipedia page rather than an interactive book. How am I supposed to care about a book and its characters when there are constant time skips of around like 100 years, which just lead to new settings and characters? Well, tastes differ, I guess.
Bro I can't forget when that game was one of the hottest thing on the forums, couldn't wait for the full game
 

Re336

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Sword of Rhivenia: Back then, the demo looked really promising. However, the actual product turned out to be lackluster in every possible way. Most of the stats did absolutely nothing, and it probably had the most unrealistic representation of medieval times I've seen in Choice of Games.From soldiers and peasants having no fear to laugh and insult nobles and when they do they face no repercussions, to another king (the father of the prince who ended up as a hostage) acting like a vassal towards the other monarch (the MC's father), kingdom going into bankruptcy because they purchased antidote lol....
The romance options were terrible: Clara, who was extremely bland and boring; Rhenva, who fell in love with the MC after just two interactions (at least she wasn't boring, I guess); and don't even get me started on the enemy princess.
Also, the sequel is dead, so I don't know why anyone would even read this book anymore.

Arcadie: Second Born - Apart from the fact that the author basically lied about the plot of the game - "you will be able to rule alongside your sister or oppose her" - the sister dies two pages into the game after the demo ends.

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You get a mediocre experience where most of the choices don't matter at all. A supposed war that only has a single battle, which happens basically at the beginning, and the MC isn't even the one leading it. There are only three romance options (if I remember correctly), one of which completely changes as a character once you enter a relationship, another can betray you, and the last one literally slaughters your family (really romantic indeed).

Grand Academy II: Attack of the Sequel - a "sequel" which completely ignores one of the main routes of the first game, my bad it doesnt ignore it author just tolds you "sorry guys that route aint a thing anymore, play the other one though!".Felt robbed even though I pirated the game

A Kiss from Death - A game which was extremely hyped at launch and even to this day has its fans, felt more like reading a Wikipedia page rather than an interactive book. How am I supposed to care about a book and its characters when there are constant time skips of around like 100 years, which just lead to new settings and characters? Well, tastes differ, I guess.
I agree with every point you made here 😂. When I was done reading Sword of Rhivenia, I just felt disappointed. I was really hyped when it was published too. The demo was really fun, but the full book? It just feels like a prologue and the constant berating we got from every character is just infuriating. But I was still hopeful. It's only book one after all. But when the demo for book two came out, nothing changes. It's just the same thing as book one 🙃. The stat check, how am I supposed to raise my combat skill when the story never provided me with the opportunity? What about my swordsmanship skill? Why can't it protect me from just one measly rebel? Why does it have to be combat? This story has ridiculous amount of skills but they never come in use. The peasants and everyone you know still talk **** on you. I feel like the author just brushes off the critics the players made.

As for Arcadie, the story flopped the second Ariana dies. I thought we as the MC can betray Ariana and joins the rebel, that would be fun. Instead she died and we're forced to become the ruler then it's all sword of Rhivenia all over again. It also felt unfinished, turns out there's a second book coming out. Didn't the author say it's a standalone book? What happened with that?
 
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