Aura Clash: leaks, sneak peaks, memes and discussion thread.

[Diamondhead]

Doesn't jdf have other advantages besides ap?
Like harmony to use power more efficiently and other tricks.

Depends on the route but yeah Eldra mentor JDF mc should be the one who is the strongest so for that you are right but everyone isn't doing that.

So yeah JDF with Eldra mentor would be top hell as I said even peak JDF without Eldra will mentorship will be ahead of jack

So yeah all in all JDF mc under Eldra mentorship would the best.
So in that way true peak of JDF would be under Eldra mentorship so even if the ap narration is the same as other JDF variations the efficiency alone would make the mc way better than all other versions of his.

 

[VexinReader]

Other way around lol Thunderfaller is the one who shouldn't be anywhere near while jack was always too talented Lmaoo how are you gonna call the more talented guy with more resources from a better base the one somehow keeping you are the Tang Ruo my guy who has no business keeping up lmaoo.

Specific descriptions in my post is "The MC at his peak" which is the absolute strongest version of them having the Jade Dragon Foundation, with all the possible boosts they can get, the best mentor, and not a Normal-Run Thunderfaller or even Mortal Limit Thunderfaller.

Also my description for Jack is "thrift store version" because he is only vaguely similar to Tang Ruo, not even that similar tbh (which is the joke), but similar enough in the case of being rivals, and specifically matching the MC in strength and power even at their strongest, and even surpassing them early on.

So I still go by the thought that Jack is more in line with Tang Ruo in that particular aspect, and the description still works because Jack has more starting resource, is more blessed in talent and also on par with luck with a peak MC, and at getting chances and opportunities to become stronger, even if he gets dumped in combat. And from what I've read in this thread, it seems like jack is specifically designed to match the MC even if we are at your strongest possible version later on in future Books, which is also another aspect similar to Tang Ruo.

 

[Diamondhead]

Specific descriptions in my post is "The MC at his peak" which is the absolute strongest version of them having the Jade Dragon Foundation, with all the possible boosts they can get, the best mentor, and not a Normal-Run Thunderfaller or even Mortal Limit Thunderfaller.

Also my description for Jack is "thrift store version" because he is only vaguely similar to Tang Ruo, not even that similar tbh (which is the joke), but similar enough in the case of being rivals, and specifically matching the MC in strength and power even at their strongest, and even surpassing them early on.

So I still go by the thought that Jack is more in line with Tang Ruo in that particular aspect, and the description still works because Jack has more starting resource, is more blessed in talent and also on par with luck with a peak MC, and at getting chances and opportunities to become stronger, even if he gets dumped in combat.

Canon mc is normal brother story is based on normal mc as much as I love JDF and also help with it's stuff by making notes and also doing scaling for it to help anon the story itself is about the underdog mc.While one can say JDF is canon and anon gives it that care the story's overall structure will remain based on Normal mc.

Also you have to pick one side to compare lol at one hand you want to add JDF peak other hand you want to scale with Normal mc

You want to have your cake and eat it too lol

Jack is simply closer to JDF mc than he is to normal mc that is all he is below JDF and above normal.

Story's first priority remains making sense for normal mc and always will.
JDF talent is 11/10
Jack is 10/10
Best version of normal is 8/10
It doesn't mean you won't win but it means You are the one who shouldn't be able to do all this but you are the mc you will find a way afterall min maxxing, prepping,luck and player choice is what will get you the win.
So sure jack will have more ap than the normal mc but that doesn't mean he can't lose otherwise brass tiger might as well pack his bags as he is also 8/10 talent.
Most of the top tiers are 8/10 anyways as I previously said 9 or above are extremely rare.

As the mc you always have the choice to pick the correct path the right option for the right skill check this is what helps you.

In universe if the ap of the opponent is less than 90 percent of your ap then he is mostly cooked unless the opponent is a martial genius and always takes the correct path which mc does mc can push this even more as you are the mc so even if you have your opponent's 80 percent ap because mc has the player controlling you can still pull the win and again the gap will matter less as time goes on not more.

 

[VexinReader]

On a similar note, but also kind of a different topic, a lot of people have talked about some of the ideas or thoughts that they have for Jack in later future books in this thread, and it doesn't seem like he has any chance of dying to the MC in any way whatsoever during the trials, or become indisposed of even in future Books. Cause the author probably doesn't have any plans for that because they have a lot in store for him.

Does that mean that jack will not die no matter what the MC does? Even if the the players wants to kill him and absolutely hates him and Mao?

 

[Diamondhead]

On a similar note, but also kind of a different topic, a lot of people have talked about some of the ideas or thoughts that they have for Jack in later future books in this thread, and it doesn't seem like he has any chance of dying to the MC in any way whatsoever during the trials, or become indisposed of even in future Books. Cause the author probably doesn't have any plans for that because they have a lot in store for him.

Does that mean that jack will not die no matter what the MC does? Even if the the players wants to kill him and absolutely hates him and Mao?

You are both going to be in archonate jack himself will be belted so bad for his behaviour lol if he as much as fu*ks with your family his a*s will be beat same for Goro you don't harm your fellow archon's family you can choose to not be friends with him and even keep antagonising him but you have to remember you people are the best of this gen even if jack almost murks or you do the same they(archonate)will save you because two top tiers are better than one lol.

Mao thoe is likely dying in book 2 anyways either jack murks him or he will go back to fighting hard asf fights and eventually die to someone way more powerful than him he won't wait for his old age to catch up he has atleast 150-200 years of prime left.

 

[fattywang]

Canon mc is normal brother story is based on normal mc as much as I love JDF and also help with it's stuff by making notes and also doing scaling for it to help anon the story itself is about the underdog mc.

Also you have to pick one side to compare lol at one hand you want to add JDF peak other hand you want to scale with Normal mc

You want to have your cake and eat it too lol

Jack is simply closer to JDF mc than he is to normal mc that is all he is below JDF and above normal.

Story's first priority remains making sense for normal mc and always will.
JDF talent is 11/10
Jack is 10/10
Best version of normal is 8/10
It doesn't mean you won't win but it You are the one who shouldn't be able to do all this but you are the mc you will find a way afterall min maxxing, prepping,luck and player choice is what will get you the win.
So sure jack will have more ap than the normal mc but that doesn't mean he can't lose otherwise brass tiger might as well pack his bags as he is also 8/10 talent.
Most of the top tiers are 8/10 anyways as I previously said 9 or above are extremely rare.

As the mc you always have the choice to pick the correct path the right option for the right skill check this is what helps you.

In universe if the gap if the opponent is less than 90 percent of your ap then he is mostly cooked unless the opponent is a martial genius and always takes the correct path which mc does mc can push this even more as you are the mc so even if you have your opponent's 80 percent ap because mc has the player controlling you can still pull the win and again the gap will matter less as time goes on not more.

I'm only really curious about one thing. When you say we need to min-max to beat Jack how much exactly is that?

For example is reaching the highest MC narration of 4200 or whatever it was going to be enough? Because to me if you need to have an AP higher then the highest possible narration to beat Jack it's not something I'd be on board with.

 

[VexinReader]

You are both going to be in archonate jack himself will be belted so bad for his behaviour lol if he as much as fu*ks with your family his a*s will be beat same for Goro you don't harm you fellow archon's family you can choose to not be friends with him and even keep antagonising him but you have to remember you people are the best of this gen even if jack almost murks or you do the same they will save you because two top tiers are better than one lol.

What about Demonic Path players that go on the different route? Is it also the same case for them that they won't have any chance or opportunity to kill Jack no matter what?

Also man, that makes me want to kill jack more. I would be happier to just replace him with Bo Lo or Big Chu (or any of the ROs) for the Archonate lol

 

[Diamondhead]

I'm only really curious about one thing. When you say we need to min-max to beat Jack how much exactly is that?

For example is reaching the highest MC narration of 4200 or whatever it was going to be enough? Because to me if you need to have an AP higher then the highest possible narration to beat Jack it's not something I'd be on board with.

MC has so many ways to hit above as the mc you always pick the right option and can prep lol so when I say min max I do mean highest narration yea.

That 4500 mc should be Able to beat a jack as again you pick the correct options you build your mc with the right things in mind

 

[fattywang]

What about Demonic Path players that go on the different route? Is it also the same case for them that they won't have any chance or opportunity to kill Jack no matter what?

Also man, that makes me want to kill jack more. I would be happier to just replace him with Bo Lo or Big Chu (or any of the ROs) for the Archonate lol

As far as I'm aware there is no different route. You'll still be an Archon you'll just need to hide your Demonic corruption.

Although I could be wrong, because awhile ago I heard your Demonic Corruption would be revealed no matter what and all the RO's except for Leona and Kosuke would drop you or something like that.

 

[Diamondhead]

What about Demonic Path players that go on the different route? Is it also the same case for them that they won't have any chance or opportunity to kill Jack no matter what?

Also man, that makes me want to kill jack more. I would be happier to just replace him with Bo Lo or Big Chu (or any of the ROs) for the Archonate lol

Sounds like a you problem why would demonic be different you are hiding it anyways
How would bo replace jack there will be ros coming to archonate too you can't attack their families either same rules for them.

All 100 of the people chosen are under one sect and organisation who will belt whoever tries **** Goro and Jack will be learning a lot of discipline.

 

[Diamondhead]

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Although I could be wrong, because awhile ago I heard your Demonic Corruption would be revealed no matter what and all the RO's except for Leona and Kosuke would drop you or something like that.

Nah it was about a hypothetical if it is revealed lol it is never getting revealed because if it does you will be executed unless you would be like end of book 4 and have been already making your hell and then dip there.

 

[fattywang]

MC has so many ways to hit above as the mc you always pick the right option and can prep lol so when I say min max I do mean highest narration yea.

That 4500 mc should be Able to beat a jack as again you pick the correct options you build your mc with the right things in mind

Alright thanks. Yeah if it's asking us to hit the highest possible narration then I think it's more than reasonable of an ask.

It also makes it a much better accomplishment since most people will have to replay the game two or three times to optimize their MC, but not by a crazy amount that requires you having 12 athletics or a **** ton of soul cores for cycling.

 

[Diamondhead]

Alright thanks. Yeah if it's asking us to hit the highest possible narration then I think it's more than reasonable of an ask.

It also makes it a much better accomplishment since most people will have to replay the game two or three times to optimize their MC, but not by a crazy amount that requires you having 12 athletics or a **** ton of soul cores for cycling.

Yeah the ap nerfs are added so min maxxing and highest narration stay close asf to each other if not the same because you are supposed to get the win as an underdog only as the normal mc I mean sure you can just type whatever Ap you want but narratively it will be based in Highest narration hell I have no doubt with the right builds ,combos and items players who will be below peak narration will be able to pull the win even if barely.
There always be players who will try to win with the least ap possible lol.

 

[enderman1401]

Book 5 will be Ascended Mc fighting Majin Stu in heaven and then Ascended Jack will declare Mc as number 1
Jack: I see it now this day has made it all too clear you are better than me John AuraClash you are the Best.
Then we use the not-spiritbomb on Majin Stu to win.

I first made this joke back in feb 2025 and it still holds up lol.That is how it will be in heavens

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Imagine anon releases some side stuff, and we have Ascended MC and Ascended Jack having to do the ridiculous fusion dance to become AuraCrusher Jackson to defeat Sunemba.

 

[Diamondhead]

Imagine anon releases some side stuff, and we have Ascended MC and Ascended Jack having to do the ridiculous fusion dance to become AuraCrusher Jackson to defeat Sunemba.

AuraCrusher JackJohnson will then one shot Sunemba's demonic *** and then use his not-Soul punisher to purify him

 

[Supreme]

By book 2 they are likely to find their matches on their own and then you just give the permission as patriarch also you will have people coming to you aswell for their arranged marriage with jin or rin

Will jin be able to have multiple wives ?
(I don't think he has that dawg like mc in him for that)

 

[Diamondhead]

Will jin be able to have multiple wives like mc ?
(I don't think he has that dawg like mc in him for that)

I doubt it especially if he gets a wife way more powerful than him lol.

 

[Supreme]

I doubt it especially if he gets a wife way more powerful than him lol.

I guess that is better for clan than having bunch of weak kids with weak girls
Just find one best possible for him

But that might still be possible for him to have more than one wife which can be more powerful than him
But that might be only possible cause of mc's power as they would want mc's alliance and protection

 

[wiliam]

I doubt it especially if he gets a wife way more powerful than him lol.

I disagree.

I believe my brother will be able to assemble his own harem of strong girls.

GO JIM, I TRUST YOU!

 

[Supreme]

I disagree.

I believe my brother will be able to assemble his own harem of strong girls.

GO JIM, I TRUST YOU!

He can't even look at girl's *******
Have you seen his pov scene
That might only be possible cause of mc