I'd be tempted to agree with you, but the fact that you considered the conversation to have been reduced to trash when the moderator finally called some members out for some disgusting and blatantly hateful behavior and not when those users launched straight into spewing anti-LGBT political crap when it was completely irrelevant is quite illustrative of the double standards that many people here operate with.
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Aura Clash: leaks, sneak peaks, memes and discussion thread.
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No one has a victim mindset here just smoothing out some untrue rumours plus I doubt you have even looked at the aura clash code yourself, you immediately jumped to one side and stuck to it without considering maybe it wasn't completely true. I would back down immediately if you said "I have personally looked through the code and have repeatedly tried to mod it. Please try to consider that maybe it's not as it first seemed, I'm saying this respectfully.
I called moderator not because he called disgusting and hateful behavior, I call him because he called only one side of whole conflict and completely ignored side that he clearly favors. Good example this mister bullshit who accused me
There's a difference between intentionally stopping modding because it messes up game variables and being homophobic. In fact when asking Cultivator-anon himself about this "anti-gay code".He said some had approached him about this and he even offered to help them out but when he found out those same people were slandering him about this anti-gay thing he got pissed off
Don't pretend that what mattered to you was that both "sides" were criticized equally when the transgressions on both sides are not of the same gravity. I've seen that false desire for "impartiality" that coincidentally only appears when the person who committed a transgression or disrespect receives punishment or a reprimand.
By the way, expecting absolute impartiality is an unrealistic expectation, since human beings don't exist in the ether, oblivious to our surroundings.
Please show us and by everybody do you mean, everyone who's hating or who are you referring to.
Ah yes, because anyone who have a modicum of knowledge about coding doesn't know that messing with the code of anything CAN and WILL mess it up. Stop with this bullshit of this sorry excuse. I enjoy aura clash, but you HAVE to admit that the author was incredibly omisse towards people on his discord server spewing misogynistic and homophobic ****, and as such, if he was complacent about it all, he agrees with everything that was said. And don't come with the "freedom of expression" excuse. What those pieces of **** said was clearly hate speak.
Don't pretend to know what matter to me or not. While everything you said is true, I advise to apply it to yourself too. Because otherwise it become quite illustrative of the double standards that many people here operate with.
By the way, believe that someone can be impartial is truly unrealistic. But expect that someone should be as impartial as possibly is pretty realistic, at least to me, especially when it someone with power, however small it can be.
At no point have I suggested that somehow such things don't apply to me as well, because unlike you, I can recognize my own bias instead of cowardly papering it over; it's called self-awareness.
But you've acknowledged that what I've said is true. In that case, you should also be able to accept that the punishment and reprimand were appropriate and proportionate, based on the fact that at least the "side" that has pointed out the possible (but unconfirmed) prejudices and permissive behaviors surrounding misogynistic and anti-LGBT messages in their community doesn't deserve a punishment even remotely comparable to that of users who didn't hesitate in the slightest to unleash a blatant anti-LGBT rant (not to say propaganda) that not only directly breaks the rules of this site, but also demeans and disrespects countless people, many of them active members of this community who hadn't even taken a position on the matter to warrant being labeled in this way. I myself was calmly reading the discussion without taking a position until, out of nowhere, they started ranting about me and others like me without reason or basis. Things like that will align and bias people, no matter how "unfair" it may seem to you.
But I understand that it's not a pleasant or entertaining conversation for you; it isn't for me either. It's still a conversation that must be had and will be had.
Holy this is still going? Question though. Why not just be honest about how you truly feel? Why beat around the bush. I said how I truly felt, hell someone in this thread said they want to kill all gays or some ****, be honest. Stop making excuses and trying to downplay something. We literally don’t know how Anon truly feels, what we do know is he feels some type of way against non straight romance. Would not be a big deal if you all didn’t try to defend him and he just admitted what type of community he wants. All your edgy early 2010 humor is so played out, it’s just jokes people of all colors blah, sure none of them are racist and homophobic yeah ok. Btw he literally purposely made the code antigay, they were changing it in console so he rewrote it to stop it so no it wasn’t breaking the game with errors. I literally love this game still will play it, he doesn’t have to change it, write a game he doesn’t want just stop giving BS reasons for the antigay code.
Do this truly not apply to you? You willingly participated in whole conflict, then I post about why moderator do nothing to stop this and clearly favor one side over another, you pretend to understand and agree with me («'I'd be tempted to agree with you» what you said) and then actively accused me that I favor other position (despite that I don't ever participated in conflict), how much my opinion have no merit because I support position that more «gravely» (which I don't ever support and which more «gravely» only subjectively) and by the end said like «being absolutely impartial is unrealistic» like because of this nobody should even try. If you call this self-awareness then your understanding of this drastically different from mine (and most likely most people in the world).
You kinda missed whole point about you being right, but unable to apply what you said to yourself. You rant about how much anti-LGBT position is wrong, gravely and should be punished like you some kind of judge who can be impartial here, like your position inherently right and other is inherently wrong. This type of argumentation was also used in past AGAINST LGBT. Don't play here as a paladin who fights evil, whole LGBT theme controversial and there no objectively right or wrong. And don't play victim here, you never was bragged onto discussion, it was YOUR decision to participate here on certain side against another. Plus, don't try to downplay wrongdoings one side while exaggerating them from another. People from both sides crossed the line of this thread. That why I call moderator, not because he choose side that I don't like.
And most importantly, this is not LGBT thread, it's Aura clash thread. If someone wants to play fighters for justice and truth, then they should litter the thread that specifically dedicated to this
I really wish I were acting like a "moral champion" or whatever that means to you (that would make what you're saying at least make some sense), but I see that even acknowledging that my own stance isn't entirely impartial won't make you abandon your antagonistic and aggressive behavior.
I reread my own comment several times to make sure I wasn't being accusatory or in any way implying that you're okay with the repulsive things that got several users banned for good reasons. But now you're trying to appeal to ambiguity about the seriousness of the words spoken to downplay the transgressions committed when the rules are quite clear. I'm also obliged to mention that you're acting as if I'm manipulating you or accusing you of something you're not, when everyone can see I did neither. You're projecting your own malice onto me, and I would appreciate it if you'd spare the effort, as I don't wish to be part of your cognitive distortion.
Although it's quite enlightening that you've built an entire mental image of me as a defender of good and justice through just a few comments. I mean, I don't picture you as a monster destroying everything good and pure in the world.
I guess it was my fault for expecting a modicum of consideration.
I guess it was my fault for expecting a modicum of consideration.
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God, you a natural. Now, please reread this your post, remember this well and then reread you posts addressed to me.
You should find points about my acting, about that I okay and support «repulsive things», about manipulation and accusing of being someone I don't. Only miss point is about malice which you don't really show.
Again, it was you who created image of anti-LGBT position as something «repulsive» and that should be punished as bigger evil here. And you started accusing me of supporting this position because I call moderator for that he doesn't try to stop or smooth conflict. And I am sorry that my cognitive distortion (my opinion) harm you ego so much.
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Sorry, allow me to be clear. Yes, I am biased toward being people being right, I hope that help explains any misunderstanding you could have had about somehow two groups being equally wrong
First of all, thank you for recognizing my gift. It helps me deal with my patients. Now, as far as we're concerned, there's no manipulation or direct accusation in my messages. Perhaps you could say they read as condescending, but that would be a conclusion born from a bad-faith reading. In any case, if my comments hurt your feelings and made you feel like a poor victim of a "moral champion"... I apologize for that; it wasn't, is not, and never was my intention.
As for treating anti-LGBT positions as repulsive, dear, it is. Perhaps it's a hard pill to swallow (understand? Xb pill), but it's a fact, and not because I say so...
Ah, you're misunderstanding what I mean by cognitive distortion, but I honestly find that more endearing than annoying.