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Aura Clash: leaks, sneak peaks, memes and discussion thread.

Zeus said:
So I can ease back a bit because I was minmaxing the hell out of jdf to get 5/6k ap
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Yeah there isn't a need if you are over 5000 ap by jack fight you are on peak narration I was only able to get to 7200 by the end of sakura fight just to see how much I can get this run so nerf is working last year by the end of jack fight i was able to hit 8000+ consistently.But yeah anything over the peak narration is fluff.
 
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Diamondhead said:
Yeah there isn't a need if you are over 5000 ap by jack fight you are on peak narration I was only able to get to 7200 by the end of sakura fight just to see how much I can get this run so nerf is working last year by the end of jack fight i was able to hit 8000+ consistently.But yeah anything over the peak narration is fluff.
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Good I don't want to minmax on easy mode lol
 
Diamondhead said:
Pretty apt tho I will not scale jack for a while Anon and I will likely do a scaling by the end of chapter 10 as more time would have passed in universe.

I can tell you what the plan right now is

Peak Normal end of book 1 mc is supposed to be 4000 to 4500 base

5500-6500(when JDF exists yeah jack is stronger in the world of JDF)for jack in base

JDF mc 6000-6500 in base

We might need another nerf depending on how many quests we will have so narration and numbers can be closer to each other.

But tiger and goro won't surpass jack in ap so whatever numbers they have will be lower.

Jahi is same imo the 4000 supressed and 8000 atleast unsuppressed it was always atleast 8000 as we had no real idea how much higher it could be so this remains the same.

Also goro is 3300 at start of trials now goro was 3.1k back when jack was 4000 ap and all other characters didn't get a buff basically after a scaling discussion with Anon most of the relevant characters were given a 200 ap buff so goro at the Start of trials is 3300 ap with his own and 5000+ with Kagura's Power.
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How Jack can be as strong as peak JDF MC AP wise? I mean MC more talented as JDF and work as hard if not harder than Jack.

And hope normal MC will also get a little push, 1k AP difference between Jack and MC kinda too big. I hope we will end with at least 5k AP.
 
Kunovic said:
How Jack can be as strong as peak JDF MC AP wise? I mean MC more talented as JDF and work as hard if not harder than Jack.

And hope normal MC will also get a little push, 1k AP difference between Jack and MC kinda too big. I hope we will end with at least 5k AP.
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Because jack is closer to JDF rather than normal lol that's the point a JDF universe jack knows JDF mc has something special going on which makes him even crazier and obsessed to train jack in that timeline trains harder than mc as there he is the one chasing you. Also a 10/10 vs 11/10 is very close 500 ap difference is what you will get mostly gotta remember another thing Mao taught jack everything he needs to do so Jack knows what to do what not so he doesn't need to waste time as much as mc figuring things out.

While normal is 8/10 at best so 1000 gap is the least of the things lol.Normal mc isn't a freak talent wise he is good as I explained before 8/10 is good talent and what makes most of the top tiers.

While a 10/10 are once in a gen lol sometimes there can be a gen without it JDF on the other hand is just same people respawning so those 7 will always respawn.

Basically a peak jack will be 500 ap behind peak JDF narration that said you can do certain things in the game to make him on par with you for people who want him to get stronger.

While when no JDF exists jack will atleast be 500-1000 ap lower there are variations

So 1500 ap above normal and 500 ap below JDF is where he usually will be.
 
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O1O said:
Because If the MC is a JDF, then Jack will work even harder than normal...and Jack is already a hardworker, lol.

At least that's how I make sense of it
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It's that and also having a way better methods as he was taught by Mao he doesn't need to waste time figuring things out.

Also jack will be 500 ap less unless you do some things in the game to make him stronger lol that's for people who want harder fights so yeah generally jack will be 500 ap below than peak JDF narration.
Also the exalt training is better as he wasn't wasting time getting fixed so he has more days to gain power plus exalts have all the stuff archons are allowed to teach and then more exalts can teach anything from their country as it's their domain so not only stuff from archonate but also from the entire country of wild lands and then their own clan's stuff.
 
any name u wish said:
We're so small right now. How will my boy survive these freaks of nature. Everyone but us has a method to go above 5000+ AP 😭
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At least Thunderfaller seems to have the most consistently faster AP grow.
We are supposed to be around 1,500 in the master Suon event. Then already 2,000 after reaching Nanhou. 6 days after reaching Nanhou we are at 2,500.
Currently 3,000 and we are at the very start of our Archon training I imagine. And we also will have our better Style trainer later and for corrupt a extra meal with Scholar Taio.

Imagine being a 19 years old ex-laborer pumpkin with 3,000 AP and Transformations that are meant for Inner Kingdom upper disciples(5,000+).
 
Totenkopf said:
At least Thunderfaller seems to have the most consistently faster AP grow.
We are supposed to be around 1,500 in the master Suon event. Then already 2,000 after reaching Nanhou. 6 days after reaching Nanhou we are at 2,500.
Currently 3,000 and we are at the very start of our Archon training I imagine. And we also will have our better Style trainer later and for corrupt a extra meal with Scholar Taio.

Imagine being a 19 years old ex-laborer pumpkin with 3,000 AP and Transformations that are meant for Inner Kingdom upper disciples(5,000+).
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Part reason for our ap narratively was due to fuel foundation without it anon said we can cut away over 500 ap from mc narratively if not more obviously we get less ap from all those gates in game tho but yeah lorewise that is a big part.

Also average inner kingdom upper disciple are 4000+ I assume confusion comes from kagura as she was called atleast that level but she is 5000+ which technically means above an average upper disciple.

Also jack only got his aura a few months before mc and till the day mc got his own aura jack wasn't training properly so his growth is even faster than Normal mc that said there are two reasons for it more talent the obvious one and second one being jack knows what to do because of Mao he doesn't just know the right methods he knows the best ones that is why there is a gap and why mao's knowledge was such a huge boon.
 
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Basically the average expected

Outer Province Lower Disciple: 500AP
Outer Province Upper Disciple: 1,200AP
Inner Kingdom Lower Disciple: 1,500AP
Tailed Beast (Beasts that become Yokai on their own): 2,500AP-3,000AP
Outer Province Sect Master: 3,500AP+
Inner Kingdom Upper Disciple: 4,000AP+
Inner Kingdom Sect Master: 7,000AP+
Devanic Saint: 8,000AP+
Archon: 10,000AP+
Exalted Councilor: 15,000AP+
Wild Gods: 20,000AP+
Rasen Emperors of Old: 20,000AP+ (supposedly)
Cathayan Emperors of Old: 25,000AP+ (supposedly)

Weakest archons are like 8k ap and weakest Saints are like 7000 ap also weakest inner kingdom sect masters are around 6000 ap.
Hawthorne fang's sect Master is dead average at 3500 hell he was once 3200 before getting buffed to 3500.This also shows how overqualified Mao is for the region lol he can be a sect master in inner Kingdoms just fine.
 
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Kunovic said:
How Jack can be as strong as peak JDF MC AP wise? I mean MC more talented as JDF and work as hard if not harder than Jack.

And hope normal MC will also get a little push, 1k AP difference between Jack and MC kinda too big. I hope we will end with at least 5k AP.
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Again, Jack somehow had a connection to the Fire Element as a child before he even had an Aura. He's a freak of nature, maybe not as much as the JDF - but he also has the advantage of having a proper teacher from birth and the desperation of perceiving the MC as someone he has to defeat.

If it got revealed that Jack is another Auspicious Beast like the Phoenix, I really wouldn't be too surprised lol.
 
KUROLizard said:
Again, Jack somehow had a connection to the Fire Element as a child before he even had an Aura. He's a freak of nature, maybe not as much as the JDF - but he also has the advantage of having a proper teacher from birth and the desperation of perceiving the MC as someone he has to defeat.

If it got revealed that Jack is another Auspicious Beast like the Phoenix, I really wouldn't be too surprised lol.
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He doesn't need the Vermilion bird tbh those 10/10 are the ones who rival the JDFs and jack is obsessed with mc even more with a JDF mc and as you said having Mao as father helps a whole lot for knowledge about doing what.
 
Diamondhead said:
Because jack is closer to JDF rather than normal lol that's the point a JDF universe jack knows JDF mc has something special going on which makes him even crazier and obsessed to train jack in that timeline trains harder than mc as there he is the one chasing you. Also a 10/10 vs 11/10 is very close 500 ap difference is what you will get mostly gotta remember another thing Mao taught jack everything he needs to do so Jack knows what to do what not so he doesn't need to waste time as much as mc figuring things out.

While normal is 8/10 at best so 1000 gap is the least of the things lol.Normal mc isn't a freak talent wise he is good as I explained before 8/10 is good talent and what makes most of the top tiers.

While a 10/10 are once in a gen lol sometimes there can be a gen without it JDF on the other hand is just same people respawning so those 7 will always respawn.

Basically a peak jack will be 500 ap behind peak JDF narration that said you can do certain things in the game to make him on par with you for people who want him to get stronger.

While when no JDF exists jack will atleast be 500-1000 ap lower there are variations

So 1500 ap above normal and 500 ap below JDF is where he usually will be.
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Then I don't understand how Anon plan rivalry between Jack and normal MC in later books. They supposedly should have similar training and Jack talent levels above MC. From how I see it, either Anon retcon talent rating (MC or Jack) or Jack should leave MC in dust in moment they become archons.
 
Kunovic said:
Then I don't understand how Anon plan rivalry between Jack and normal MC in later books. They supposedly should have similar training and Jack talent levels above MC. From how I see it, either Anon retcon talent rating (MC or Jack) or Jack should leave MC in dust in moment they become archons.
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No lol you are the under dog you will find a way to win you won when you were still mortal lmaoo and he had already become a martial artist.

The point is mc will always find a way to win especially a mc who is min maxxed will have a shot lol.
In fact as time goes on the 1500 gap will matter less and less when Jack is 17k and you are 15.5k it will matter a lot less than it does now.

Archonate resources and knowledge will make sure the gap likely remains the same.Especially with mc always giving his all too.
Infact Jack being your rival is what has helped mc become so great jack would have been able to coast easily on his talents unlike mc whose talent changes between 6-8 depending on the narration you achieve.

So yeah infact right now this book's Final fight is when this gap will mean the most as time goes on it will matter less and less.So yeah jack will he stronger than Normal mc always but it doesn't mean you cannot win.
 
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Diamondhead said:
That is possible too ofcourse you will have option to be both ally or barely working together that said ofcourse being ally will give so much extra content and also stuff for grandkid book.
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It's messed up that you have to be friends with the guy who messed up the MC's brother's shoulder and pinky finger just to get benefits and content.
 
Diamondhead said:
Basically the average expected

Outer Province Lower Disciple: 500AP
Outer Province Upper Disciple: 1,200AP
Inner Kingdom Lower Disciple: 1,500AP
Tailed Beast (Beasts that become Yokai on their own): 2,500AP-3,000AP
Outer Province Sect Master: 3,500AP+
Inner Kingdom Upper Disciple: 4,000AP+
Inner Kingdom Sect Master: 7,000AP+
Devanic Saint: 8,000AP+
Archon: 10,000AP+
Exalted Councilor: 15,000AP+
Wild Gods: 20,000AP+
Rasen Emperors of Old: 20,000AP+ (supposedly)
Cathayan Emperors of Old: 25,000AP+ (supposedly)

Weakest archons are like 8k ap and weakest Saints are like 7000 ap also weakest inner kingdom sect masters are around 6000 ap.
Hawthorne fang's sect Master is dead average at 3500 hell he was once 3200 before getting buffed to 3500.This also shows how overqualified Mao is for the region lol he can be a sect master in inner Kingdoms just fine.
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You mean to tell me my goat big chu doesn't even have 2000 ap. Smh.

Also what do we know about the noble masks ( which noble judges and dessy's dad seem to use ) like their types , numbers , avg and max aura possible?
 
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