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Honestly, allowing us to pull a Zoro WOULD kick ***.
Yeah, I lowkey feel like Mido should have just been pure brute, and the animal taming is just because beasts respect brute force rather than any special leadership powers with Yokai being able to more easily do this due to their beastly nature.
Akakiru should have gotten the ability to buff troops and have great leadership because they USE people like how they USE their weapon, Makima type shi
It will also fit the Bladed Lands, being a lawful militaristic place
That's currently locked behind the Reaper Transformation though. If Dual Wielding is meant to be a big incentive towards picking Akakiru, I feel like it should be obtainable regardless of what Transformation you use.
Also, everyone else except Mido, right? XD
Akakiru can make portals tho and travel to places as quickly as they want utility wise that is stupidly Good. Only other style that can do this is kii with a lot of extra work but kii can do almost everything with enough work.
Also thinking space cutting means that one can Bypass durability is funny just because sukuna's verse is weak doesn't mean people can't no sell it in other fiction just like fiction has stupid speed feats or absurd destruction capabilities a space cut is nothing that can't be resisted when the power source are the same for all as chi powers everything and all styles have chi and cores which makes durability and all other attributes too in the end the space cut needs power cores too it is a check just like any other a power check and mastery check against a body the check will be dependent like how every check is in the game.If stat checks weren't a thing kii would be the strongest in everything any style's having enough stat can stop cutting. Space has way less resistance against a direct cut as it is a miniscule part of the infinite space space than a user whose all resistance is on their body and has enough chi and cores to resist it you can get space cutting very early for Akakiru that would mean a 5000 Akakiru can kill a wild god lol which duh obviously won't happen as again space cutting is more utility and for sneak attacks or being able to escape from certain death scenarios if anything durability matters even more because of space cutting the durability is made from the same source of power(chi) that also makes the attack.So no it would never make sense for it being a dura neg lol everything Kiihakai would do would be dura neg otherwise so saying something like durability doesn't matter as if this is some fixed rule .Different verses have different rules.
Kii's descriptions tells how things work any sorcery can be powered through if the opponent has enough power or resisted that's why kii isn't just sorcery since hax can be powered through that's why Kii has the strongest chi blasts between all styles to actually be a fighter.
Also not every strong mido user is even half decent at taming and it takes a lot of work in lore.
Utility wise they are about the same tho Bladed lands is far better for Rasen since bladed lands has the most disciplined folks also unlike mido users they can fight like an army without trying to kill each other. That order and discipline makes them the strongest large force.
Anyways it's not like kuro isn't more cooked in lore
In combat kuro is 5th and in utility it is 2nd best behind the king of utility in Kiihakai
All styles are not made equal it's like asking for forced balance bladed lands have the most importance and influence and the culture of each lands was influenced by the leading sects or organisation's culture.Bladed lands gets extra special reverence because of that in lore that's not balanced either while wild lands the general public wishes they would just leave lol since they cause so much fighting .
Even evil ahh kuro is liked because they are top tier spies getting all useful information so outside of their lands they are liked because of their utility . It's basically Bladed lands having most authority in lore and the reason for that is Akakiru only since blade users atleast a good one needs all the discipline to master different styles of using the blade their style breeds discipline which helped in making the bladed culture.
Also thinking space cutting means that one can Bypass durability is funny just because sukuna's verse is weak doesn't mean people can't no sell it in other fiction just like fiction has stupid speed feats or absurd destruction capabilities a space cut is nothing that can't be resisted when the power source are the same for all as chi powers everything and all styles have chi and cores which makes durability and all other attributes too in the end the space cut needs power cores too it is a check just like any other a power check and mastery check against a body the check will be dependent like how every check is in the game.If stat checks weren't a thing kii would be the strongest in everything any style's having enough stat can stop cutting. Space has way less resistance against a direct cut as it is a miniscule part of the infinite space space than a user whose all resistance is on their body and has enough chi and cores to resist it you can get space cutting very early for Akakiru that would mean a 5000 Akakiru can kill a wild god lol which duh obviously won't happen as again space cutting is more utility and for sneak attacks or being able to escape from certain death scenarios if anything durability matters even more because of space cutting the durability is made from the same source of power(chi) that also makes the attack.So no it would never make sense for it being a dura neg lol everything Kiihakai would do would be dura neg otherwise so saying something like durability doesn't matter as if this is some fixed rule .Different verses have different rules.
Kii's descriptions tells how things work any sorcery can be powered through if the opponent has enough power or resisted that's why kii isn't just sorcery since hax can be powered through that's why Kii has the strongest chi blasts between all styles to actually be a fighter.
Also not every strong mido user is even half decent at taming and it takes a lot of work in lore.
Utility wise they are about the same tho Bladed lands is far better for Rasen since bladed lands has the most disciplined folks also unlike mido users they can fight like an army without trying to kill each other. That order and discipline makes them the strongest large force.
Anyways it's not like kuro isn't more cooked in lore
In combat kuro is 5th and in utility it is 2nd best behind the king of utility in Kiihakai
All styles are not made equal it's like asking for forced balance bladed lands have the most importance and influence and the culture of each lands was influenced by the leading sects or organisation's culture.Bladed lands gets extra special reverence because of that in lore that's not balanced either while wild lands the general public wishes they would just leave lol since they cause so much fighting .
Even evil ahh kuro is liked because they are top tier spies getting all useful information so outside of their lands they are liked because of their utility . It's basically Bladed lands having most authority in lore and the reason for that is Akakiru only since blade users atleast a good one needs all the discipline to master different styles of using the blade their style breeds discipline which helped in making the bladed culture.
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I find it hilarious how Akakiru's ability to dual wield is redundant anyway because everyone else can do the same. Mido even has a special transformation for it like they do that will get tripple wielding in the future lmao
A transformation dual wield is different than a non transformation one tho makes no sense in comparison for transformation reaper doubles the main hand weapon stats that's the difference it pretty much means having triple wield already stat wise while they have dual welding staying for base form.
Also you need to sacrifice a training option to get dual wield for other styles which isn't worth at all.When training options are better.
I think that akakiru is fine but the problem is that it almost offer no QOL and used purely in combat. Sure it can create portals, cut spaces and etc but that kind of utility is 'locked' until you're absurdly good at akakiru just like how beast taming is 'locked' if you main mido.
And my 2nd problem is that it's special mechanic isn't even special to the style, you can get dual wielding by being a blacksmith, main kuro, asura transform and etc. Kuro can cast curse and copy techniques, aoyu can hear prayers, kiihakai can manipulate chi while mido can be absurdly buff and control beasts. These kind of feats are special under their style but apparently not for akakiru. Ofc akakiru can get more out of their weapons but 'having bigger numbers while holding a sword' just isn't interesting enough to me...
Just wait for not-bankai then for Akakiru and other stuff planned which I cannot talk about also it's not like mido gets to do anything except punch harder and tank more even some of the best users of mido don't have any taming ability.
Also again if you read the post I pretty much mentioned how others need to sacrifice training ability space for dual wielding mido gets it only for transformation not even base in fact if you go asura you cannot even get dual weild for base even as blacksmith since you already have it during transformation but that is temporary.Only kuro gets to dual weild for free tho they need to focus the tech if I remember correctly while Akakiru gets it for base and reaper doubles the stat for the main hand meaning the stat your weapon has in the main hand will be doubled during transformation.
Also most people just want more swords to wield for Akakiru
Also not every style would be liked by everyone anyways tho Akakiru as I said will get their not bankai and additional stuff.
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If that means Akakiru can bypass trips and gain extra days in the future to train - that would be good. And if that happens next Chapter, I won't have anything to complain about. But I feel like it wouldn't.
If Stat checks can stop anything, then what's the point of Akakiru as a style? My special power is cutting things, except when they are strong enough to defend against being cut.
What's the difference between punching something and cutting something at that point?
That's already a thing - you said that Kurokuton is worse than Akakiru - but Kurokuton already has a **** load of bonuses in the story to make sure that they can keep up with the other styles. What I'm asking for isn't anything that Anon hasn't already done in the story.
Also, why wouldn't they be equal? I'm not asking for Akakiru to be equal in power to Midorikatai - I'm just asking for some kind of pro/con between choosing between Akakiru and Midorikatai. The thing that should cause differences between power should be things like talent, not "well, this style is just objectively worse than this style".
You can talk about future stuff all you want, that doesn't mean our criticisms of the style right now aren't warranted. Saying, "Oh, it's fine if it's boring right now, it'll get better in three+ years when Book 2 is finished" is not a good answer.
I know that dual wielding can't be achieved by other style without some kind of trade off, I also agree that akakiru gets dual wielding for free yes but the fact that other style can also use it is what bothers me. Akakiru special mechanic can be used by other style, but no other style other than kuro could copy techniques, only aoyu can hear prayers, etc.
Sounds like the style isn't for you.
Also Ignoring half the points and removing context.
What you want simply means Kiihakai's every other hax would be dura neg or fight ender or kuro's curses always work if there are no stat checks every style needs stat check to work for their ability otherwise why would there be ap and cores lol. Hell why would ap matter if a 1000 ap dude could cut someone way more powerful what's the point of ap at all.
You can get very strong without a style too styles are basically amplifiers of abilities.
And why isn't not bankai as future content apt? Just because you said it isn't doesn't mean others aret happy about it
Mido got their pet which was supposed to be here in chapter 6 postponed to book 2.
As for kuro it is the weakest style in a straight fight and their entire thing is tied to their eye.
And again what's the difference between punching and using a sword? You know right mido can shatter empowered bones and tear empowered limbs right?just like Akakiru can cut through empowered limbs it doesn't mean there will be no checks it simply means those actions are easier for these two styles while for others it is almost impossible without significant power difference or having already shattered the aura of the opponent.If we do things how you are saying mido can tear empowered limbs no check and shatter bones no check.While kuro always successfully curses you and kills you and kii can beat Everyone eyes closed.
Few months ago you were talking about how mido players are "punished" lol because optimal way of playing wasn't to go with kaito since mido can get regeneration later and somehow that was punishing To me it simply feels like anything that doesn't go the way you want or envisioned is an issue and the way you are talking now if kaito's Regeneration stacked with future mido regen then you would be talking about that as mido getting something more aswell.
Not-bankai would be that also chi blade is unique to Akakiru too tho it hasn't gotten any progression for now.iT really boils down to kuro already got their entire kit because their transformation is more suited to utility and is tied to almost everything they do and for Hearing prayers for Aoyu we aren't quite there yet to be hearing them properly and regularly it's simply a matter of power and mastery for Akakiru getting the space cut,not bankai and some other stuff planned
Kii can do a lot right? but in game they haven't gotten anything they are supposed to get best healing,they can fly,they can also get regeneration tho harder to get than mido and yet nothing for them aswell hell they can't even get last dream.
Mido can't get their pet While trapper and Kaito are also giving what mido gives so anyone can get regeneration and even pet in book 2 without mido and we can't buff others either.
Akakiru till now haven't gotten either of their special mechanics that others cannot do.All 3 are tied to a higher level of power and mastery for now maybe we will get one of them this book but they are likely to be part of book 2 archon training.
Kuro just got their goodies first.
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Sorry, was in the middle of work - didn't have time to write a response to every single argument you brought up.
To clarify, since I have caused a misunderstanding - what I want is for Akakiru to get more out of combat stuff. The dura neg stuff was more me raising it as possible thing they could do in exchange for being completely combat focused with zero out if combat stuff.
This was my bad, I rushed out my feelings on the subject without elaborating or explaining why I felt that way.
My general issue is what I explained earlier - Akakiru right now feels very much like a One Trick Pony. Even Midorikatai has stuff it can do defensively (Fortitude) and offensively (Power). And I think that would be fine if Akakiru was the best at it's one trick - but like you pointed out Midorikatai is just as capable of ripping and breaking empowered bodies as Akakiru is at cutting them. At least mechanically - it doesn't really feel like Akakiru's performance is meaningfully different or stronger offensively than the other styles despite it's sole ability being "I cut things really well".
I don't think Anon is going to buff how strong Akakiru is - and honestly - I don't think he should. But I do wish that Akakiru got more stuff than "cutting things" or at least let us do more esoteric/unique things with "cutting things" right now than just attacking with your sword.
My argument was assuming that Mido players wouldn't get something else in exchange for already picking up regeneration early - and I do stand by that argument. Part of the appeal of Midorikatai is being an absolute tank that can take any blow and brute force past it - which Kaito's stuff absolutely plays into the fantasy of. If a player chooses Kaito as a mentor because they want to play that fantasy - and then find out in book 2 that they were going to get regeneration anyway - and they don't learn anything else as an alternative - then that would be punishing them - especially since that would mean playing through Book 1 all over again just to pick a different mentor.
I don't think that's what's going to happen, because Anon has always been very generous with the choices for what your character can learn - so I doubt he would have no alternatives to learning Regeneration.
No? Like I said, tanking everything and brute forcing everything is explicitly what Midorikatai is designed for - I'm not going to complain that the style that is good at tanking things is good at tanking things. That's literally why I have issues with Akakiru right now - it doesn't feel like Bladed Chi is all that different or stronger offensively than other Style Chi despite being pretty much locked into only being used offensively.
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