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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

Kro

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the way i interpret the whole mc body is **** issue is that in comparisson to let's say ruo. wu heir never the same amount of resource and never seem to put in the amount of effort needed to develop their body, their physical form into that of the same level of strength as ruo. like ruo growing up had all he could ever need to make himself physically strong. pills, potions, talismans you name it. he is also trained by his aunt a shangtian and probably other experts of at least late xiantian level. ruo during his is provided with whatever he needs to get as strong as is physically possible and has been trained and conditioned to care for nothing else than that so ruo being strong and having what is essentially a perfect body is justified

contrast this with wu heir, who'd be lucky to have had a tenth of what ruo got growing up. is primarily trained by an early xiantian growing up. and even then never seem to personally put in that much of an effort. yet even with this level of disparity wu heir can still match and even surpass ruo in some ways. as for the whole our body being remade by tang wei and should then be stronger issue, i'd reserve any kind of opinion and or judgement simply because we haven't yet face off against ruo and we still don't know how physically strong niki is going to make him.
 
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Kunovic

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the way i interpret the whole mc body is **** issue is that in comparisson to let's say ruo. wu heir never the same amount of resource and never seem to put in the amount of effort needed to develop their body, their physical form into that of the same level of strength as ruo. like ruo growing up had all he could ever need to make himself physically strong. pills, potions, talismans you name it. he is also trained by his aunt a shangtian and probably other experts of at least late xiantian level. ruo during his is provided with whatever he needs to get as strong as is physically possible and has been trained and conditioned to care for nothing else by that.

contrast this with wu heir, who'd be lucky to have had a tenth of what ruo got growing up. is primarily trained by an early xiantian growing up. and even then never seem to personally put in that much of an effort. yet even with this level of disparity wu heir can still match and even surpass ruo in some ways. as for the whole our body being remade by tang wei and should then be stronger issue, i'd reserve any kind of opinion and or judgement simply because we haven't yet face off against ruo and we still don't know how physically strong niki is going to make him.
If you talking about Wu heir body before expedition, then main difference is definitely not in resources. Ruo dragon body is simply broken and definitely have stats limit higher than any mortal should have. Resources just max out his stats and skills. Not to mention that he apparently can use inner energy as mortal, considering that he created his sword art as mortal. Imo Ruo was either lying or too delusional to say that difference between them in resources.

After expedition MC problem lack of qi and cultivation knowledge. As LB says we just wander in darkness.
 

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If you talking about Wu heir body before expedition, then main difference is definitely not in resources. Ruo dragon body is simply broken and definitely have stats limit higher than any mortal should have. Resources just max out his stats and skills. Not to mention that he apparently can use inner energy as mortal, considering that he created his sword art as mortal. Imo Ruo was either lying or too delusional to say that difference between them in resources.

After expedition MC problem lack of qi and cultivation knowledge. As LB says we just wander in darkness.
i agree that ruo's dragon body is definitely increasing his stat limits to beyond what is normal but pills and talismans can increase stats to beyond their limits. and you need money for both and influence to get the top quality stuff. so i disagree in saying that the difference in strength between ruo and wu heir has nothing to do with resource. and as for qi, we see a stone sold at auction for an amount that is simply beyond what wu heir can afford. and there again a lack of resource is hampering wu heir's growth
 

Kunovic

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i agree that ruo's dragon body is definitely increasing his stat limits to beyond what is normal but pills and talismans can increase stats to beyond their limits. and you need money for both and influence to get the top quality stuff. so i disagree in saying that the difference in strength between ruo and wu heir has nothing to do with resource. and as for qi, we see a stone sold at auction for an amount that is simply beyond what wu heir can afford. and there again a lack of resource is hampering wu heir's growth
That why I said that Ruo dragon body is main difference, not only. Even if MC get same amount resources as Ruo, it still wil be not enough. Not to mention his transformation.

Problem not only with amount of qi to make body stronger, but also with that MC have no teacher (untill recently) who can teach us something about body refining. Even if we get ton of qi, we still have no idea what to to do with it to refine body
 

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i agree that ruo's dragon body is definitely increasing his stat limits to beyond what is normal but pills and talismans can increase stats to beyond their limits. and you need money for both and influence to get the top quality stuff. so i disagree in saying that the difference in strength between ruo and wu heir has nothing to do with resource. and as for qi, we see a stone sold at auction for an amount that is simply beyond what wu heir can afford. and there again a lack of resource is hampering wu heir's growth
I completely agree. However, @Kunovic is right to imply that it's mainly because of dragon powers that Ruo is so strong. Pills increase limits, but as far as we know this only applies to the MC, because even Yang Gan had base stats of 10k maximum and he certainly didn't lack resources, and well, without his dragon powers Ruo would just be a normal MA, even with his physique (which only affects the arts, makes his sword techniques more powerful and makes it easier for him to understand the sword), just like the IE MC was, his base limits would probably be the same as any other MA.
 

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Speaking of which, I wonder how strong Ruo would be without his dragon powers. I guess he'd still be something like the apex at the same level, but I imagine he definitely wouldn't be able to jump so many stages. I mean, MC would probably still have been defeated in the first confrontation, but it wouldn't have been a humiliating fight like it was and when MC turned into an EH, he would have won easily. As for now, I don't think Ruo would be a third of the threat he is now.

Edit: I probably exaggerated with the "easily", I think that in this situation, if Ruo, even without the Dragon powers, had used the sword, it would have been a good fight, maybe even victory for him.
 
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GS is something all cultivators develop in there journey btw. What's unusual is that most develop it in Core Formation unlike us
The reason I mentioned the GS as something special is because our is the very best quality possible(probably better than what Tang Wei had before he reached godhood)
 

Kunovic

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Speaking of which, I wonder how strong Ruo would be without his dragon powers. I guess he'd still be something like the apex at the same level, but I imagine he definitely wouldn't be able to jump so many stages. I mean, MC would probably still have been defeated in the first confrontation, but it wouldn't have been a humiliating fight like it was and when MC turned into an EH, he would have won easily. As for now, I don't think Ruo would be a third of the threat he is now.

Edit: I probably exaggerated with the "easily", I think that in this situation, if Ruo, even without the Dragon powers, had used the sword, it would have been a good fight, maybe even victory for him.
Depend on what exactly his dragon powers give him. Increased stats, regeneration and transformation definitely would be out of play. His sword art most likely too, because I have no idea how he could have created it without IE. Maybe also his eyes that can copy arts, but only Nicky know whatever this is part of his dragon power, physique or something else. At worst for Ruo case he will be martial artist MC victim, at best for him he will be notably stronger than MC (like MC slightly stronger in stats, but much weaker in arts)

Still it doesn't matter because Ruo have treasure of artifacts, pills, talismans and any other broken things to eradicate most, if not all Houtians and maybe half Xiantians
 

Arlonb

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The reason I mentioned the GS as something special is because our is the very best quality possible(probably better than what Tang Wei had before he reached godhood)
There is also that detail that LB mentioned, that not even other Dao users can simply use spells as they please and in whatever way they want, that only someone with the Chaos Origin Physique can simply think and do, without even needing concentration or mental effort.
 

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Depend on what exactly his dragon powers give him. Increased stats, regeneration and transformation definitely would be out of play. His sword art most likely too, because I have no idea how he could have created it without IE. Maybe also his eyes that can copy arts, but only Nicky know whatever this is part of his dragon power, physique or something else. At worst for Ruo case he will be martial artist MC victim, at best for him he will be notably stronger than MC (like MC slightly stronger in stats, but much weaker in arts)

Still it doesn't matter because Ruo have treasure of artifacts, pills, talismans and any other broken things to eradicate most, if not all Houtians and maybe half Xiantians
Pretty sure sword is his innate ability nothing to do with his dragon powers so yeah he’d still have them without the dragon powers.
 

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I'm only sure of two things:

Grandpa loves the MC very much, TW isn't the type to lie or say things for no reason;

Unless Grandpa himself intervened, if the MC had been raised with the rogues, he'd be a brainwashed loyal moron, just like Xiwen.
I agree that TW has no need to lie but thing is Nicky is an unreliable narrator, if something doesn't fit Nicky's very linear view of the story it is going to become an afterthought, I seriously wonder if TW's words will even be relevant down the line.
Just like aunty, she should've been a MAJOR motivation or character changer but nope, she isn't even mentioned now.
 

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I agree that TW has no need to lie but thing is Nicky is an unreliable narrator, if something doesn't fit Nicky's very linear view of the story it is going to become an afterthought, I seriously wonder if TW's words will even be relevant down the line.
Just like aunty, she should've been a MAJOR motivation or character changer but nope, she isn't even mentioned now.
That’s one of the biggest downfalls of Poma being so linear and Niki not wanting to have too many things to keep track off which is fair. So many events are disjointed and once they happen they’re forgotten afterwards only like 5% of stuff is mentioned again. So many one offs. Has 1st round of tournament even been mentioned? I soloed everyone and was hyped thinking people would react but nope, only the POV that don’t account for how you won lol. Thought we would have momentum but they’re like you don’t stand a chance did they not watch what I just did 1st round?
 

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That’s one of the biggest downfalls of Poma being so linear and Niki not wanting to have too many things to keep track off which is fair. So many events are disjointed and once they happen they’re forgotten afterwards only like 5% of stuff is mentioned again. So many one offs. Has 1st round of tournament even been mentioned? I soloed everyone and was hyped thinking people would react but nope, only the POV that don’t account for how you won lol. Thought we would have momentum but they’re like you don’t stand a chance did they not watch what I just did 1st round?
A dozen PH working together to take down one weakend PH and failing has to be a big feat. Maybe not for the top 5 but to think that none of our teammates or opponents mention about that atleast in passing is kinda insulting. I really hope we can kick their asses, they need immense humbling.
 

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I roughly recall that Ruo can fight around two stages above using his sword art and transformation hence him holding his own against PH/EX Long Chen at the expo as a Middle Houtian (and beating the Jing guy before that as EH)

So without the dragons he's capped at fighting a stage above at most. Still pretty good. Enough to solo Inner Energy MC at any rate as he'd have Eyes of Perfect Replication
I soloed everyone and was hyped thinking people would react but nope, only the POV that don’t account for how you won lol.
There's actually dynamic povs with ruo and mei that change depending on how you behaved during the tourney which i liked. But so far the reaction has been pretty muted after the fact.
 

Waoman21

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I roughly recall that Ruo can fight around two stages above using his sword art and transformation hence him holding his own against PH/EX Long Chen at the expo as a Middle Houtian (and beating the Jing guy before that as EH)

So without the dragons he's capped at fighting a stage above at most. Still pretty good. Enough to solo Inner Energy MC at any rate as he'd have Eyes of Perfect Replication
I’d say that even without his dragons, he could fight against opponents two stages above him. Since Jing was LH — sure, maybe not a strong one, but still a LH — and Ruo was EH and didn’t use his sword or transformation. And in the fight against Long Chen, considering he had his aura and everything and Ruo was in MH, there he was fighting more than two stages above.
 
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