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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

justindeed

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Gone_Dead said:
Okay i finally understand the purpose of our physique. It enables us to cultivate like a maniac. Like TW said, breathing is essentially cultivating for those with Chaos Origin Physique and our top tier meridians. It also gives unprecedented understanding of Dao. Every art we cast doesnt require concentration but a thought and only Qi, even that in spare amounts compared to other cultivators. TW's GS is of transcendent level meaning all of our arts are of the highest level with respect to our cultivation stage. Currently as a PH, our arts must be the strongest there is most probably even above Ruo's mastery over sword art (He even says so in the pov). Idk if half dao seed counts enough to contribute to his art, and if so i wonder what level it is.
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For the Houtian/Qi Condensation level sure.
Gone_Dead said:
Ruo also has the best karma and we have the worst since heavens hate our physique and the fact that we are essential TW. If i understand correctly, karma is basically heaven's opinion of you, and if their opinion is high, they help you and if low they scheme against you.
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Karma and Heavens seem to be sorta separate but the same. I think Heavens are going to hate MC regardless of if he's a saint or not because of his physique.
Gone_Dead said:
After finally reading again inculding the content i missed (didnt do demon route and mei yet cuz im lazy), the reason why Yichen was so powerful was cuz he formed his own dao seed. Im sure fire element is his dao path. He formed his dao seed after he reached 1000. Apparently it takes 5000 years for good cultivators to sprout a dao seed. LB says he's not aware of it but i doubt it. He did talk with TW long back, maybe he helped him form it, no way he formed it on his own. So based on this, My hypothesis that prime BP MC with GS = TY is wrong since i forgot to consider we need Qi to actually use our GS effectively and we didnt even have dao back then. So yeah niki was right, BP MC with or without GS loses against TY. I dont even know how MC got dao seed without any dao path during the expedition. Im sure its the differentiating factor, dao with GS means easy top level arts but prone to exhaustion quickly due to having no qi. Maybe im wrong about all this but it made sense to me.
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You can use GS with inner energy but it exhausts it. If Yichen knew what the GS and sprout are, Ruo would also and he doesn't. MC formed the GS because of his physique, has nothing to do with having a dao path or not (which has to do with the GS anyway since before that you can only use named arts).
Gone_Dead said:
So im going to say something shocking now, After reading again i dont really find problems with the powerscaling. Niki is doing a fine job in regards to powering up MC but he has his faults tho. Fights are not creative enough, MC fights like a barbarian with 0 skill. And i still think Niki will adress this. MC does think to themself that they totally forgot about their IE arts after getting dao. Niki needs to flesh out the main characters more. Ruo is a perfect antithesis to Wu heir in some ways yet he barely touches on that. Both of their circumstances surrounding birth were vile and tragic. MC essentially killed the real Wu heir unknowingly, caused the death of their mother, and crippled their father. Ruo was sealed with more than 1000 dragon souls within him, his birth essentially contributed to the genocide of dragons and awakening of SLM. His aunt called him an abomination even before he was born while Wu heir's aunt was basically the opposite. Ruo's uncle is fun and loving while Wu heir's uncle is cold, distant and hateful. Wu heir was given freedom in their upbringing to be whatever type of person we wished but Ruo only had one path forced on him. It seems obvious that Niki intended to parallel MC and Ruo but he cant find the opportunity or maybe even forgot about how important the rival character is to MC.
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I don't think the powerscaling is fine yet tbh. He needs to fully implement crit checks before that's the case. Agreed about the MC fighting with 0 battle iq and facetanking hits.
Gone_Dead said:
Niki has clearly thought out MC as a character but kind of started to stumble in certain places after the expedition. Lets hope he got back his footing and writes peak.
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IMO a lot of these issues should be easily noticed on a playthrough if you're paying attention. He should take his time and quality control these updates more.
 
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justindeed said:
For the Houtian/Qi Condensation level sure.
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Yeah. Our art grows proportionally with our strength. Among PH our arts is the strongest and most probably how it will be as we advance stages too, unless Niki decides to change it for some reason.
justindeed said:
Karma and Heavens seem to be sorta separate but the same. I think Heavens are going to hate MC regardless of if he's a saint or not because of his physique.
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It makes sense if you think of karma as heavens favour. Ruo is a heavenly dao child so he's their favourite but we are the reincarnation of a man they hated so we have bad karma.
justindeed said:
You can use GS with inner energy but it exhausts it. If Yichen knew what the GS and sprout are, Ruo would also and he doesn't. MC formed the GS because of his physique, has nothing to do with having a dao path or not (which has to do with the GS anyway since before that you can only use named arts).
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Now that I think or it, TW says Ruo is not aware of his dao seed so Yichen might now know after all. MC did form GS due to the physique but you need a dao to produce a dao seed. That's why MC was only able to use very basic stuff like barriers and infused punches using GS during expedition. But it might be different in MCs case since MCs GS contains knowledge on all of TWs arts and techniques. That and along with our physique allow us to have perfect form in both our physical techniques and arts. Yue Fang even talks about this during the 'First's fight. He says the first has perfect form for a jab and that he either has a really good master from celestial empire who drilled that into him, or that he has TWs bullshit physique like us.

Powerscaling I meant lorewise.
 
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Gone_Dead said:
It makes sense if you think of karma as heavens favour. Ruo is a heavenly dao child so he's their favourite but we are the reincarnation of a man they hated so we have bad karma.
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No I mean karma alignment is based on how good or evil people act, and doesn't seem to matter to what the Heavens actually think of MC, more like some automatic function of the world.

Gone_Dead said:
MC did form GS due to the physique but you need a dao to produce a dao seed. That's why MC was only able to use very basic stuff like barriers and infused punches using GS during expedition. But it might be different in MCs case since MCs GS contains knowledge on all of TWs arts and techniques.
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Couple of things:

GS and dao seed are the same. You don't actually need dao to form it otherwise Yichen wouldn't have a dao sprout since he can't use qi.

MC doesn't know all of TW's techniques. He can potentially cultivate space, body and/or elemental dao because that was Tang Wei's aptitude but we more or less start from "zero" regardless.
 
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Gone_Dead said:
I meant powerscaling lore wise not gameplay wise. Gameplay is a mess and doesn't really have impact on the narrative apart from stat checks. Niki already said on Tumblr that he will work on in second book and it's difficult to adjust it now.
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justindeed said:
No I mean karma alignment is based on how good or evil people act, and doesn't seem to matter to what the Heavens actually think of MC, more like some automatic function of the world.
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That's what I thought at first but the LB lore event seems to paint karma in a different light.
justindeed said:
Couple of things:

GS and dao seed are the same. You don't actually need dao to form it otherwise Yichen wouldn't have a dao sprout since he can't use qi.
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I know. I used them interchangeably when I don't have to mention dao in relation to GS. You actually need dao tho. You need a dao which is something you consider true for soley yourself. When you learn someone else's art, you use their dao, their truth. When you start making it your truth you eventually form the dao seed. This is what LB says in the lore event anyway. Dao seed seems like a blueprint of your dao. Qi is just fuel to bring shape for said dao. Ruo was born with sword dao, he comprehends it, gains his own understanding of it, and as of now has formed a half dao seed.
justindeed said:
MC doesn't know all of TW's techniques. He can potentially cultivate space, body and/or elemental dao because that was Tang Wei's aptitude but we more or less start from "zero" regardless.
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I didn't say MC knows TWs techniques, its just that GS has knowledge on said techniques. But with our physique, we are able to replicate said technique with Qi. Tbh I'm not really clear on this but I say what I say because we are said our GS brims and chimes when seeing the perfect posture of Su Des thrust, or when we look at Yuan Fangs art. It makes me think that TWs GS is special in the sense it enables us to make all this calculations. I don't really know about this tho. Right explanation would be like you said, our GS has knowledge on the three dao paths of TW.
 
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God said:
It’s not that he lurks here it’s that he has people who do that for him probably tell everything we say negative to him
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Criticisms, especially repeated ones surrounding similar issues in a lot of cases while they might sound unpleasant but they point to common or glaring flaws in one's writing.
People bother ranting or digging deep about an issue because they actually like or once liked the book and would love to see the story improve and problems addressed.
Otherwise who would bother ranting in the first place.
 
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O1O said:
Is this the light at the end of the tunnel? View attachment 25527
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You actually think the torture will stop? You poor, naive child
God said:
It’s not that he lurks here it’s that he has people who do that for him probably tell everything we say negative to him
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I don't think they care that much. Maybe they mention what we say once in a blue moon to take the **** off but this is a piracy forum and niki only listens to his patreons afaik
 
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