Is it revealed in the empire route? I havent played that and LB ones, i imagine theres a lot lore there too.
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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread
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Unfortunately, the only "power up" in the update is that the MC can evolve from single Dao to Tri-Dao, but only if he is a Butterfly disciple. Otherwise, the update is all about lore, as the only other benefits the MC can gain are EXP, Dao EXP and 10 Qi, which we all know isn't worth much in the narrative.
Maybe in the non butterfly route MC will learn it from other...but we will see
You can get 30 Qi
EH? Do you maybe mean peak or EX? Because you can have a little scuffle with him and to my surprise, the Wu Heir is not a complete bum in it.
He first tries to just laugh and allow you to hit his fist but from there it’s either a 15k crit con check where you get no damage and surprise him a lot, then a 15k perception and agility check to blow him through a wall and destroy your house and then dodge an instakill technique with yet another 15k agility check.
After that he actually says you ain’t bad and is chill about it.
Or you pass a 12k con check (above houtian level supposedly) and only get off with a broken arm and he just laughs. If you don’t pass 12k con then I believe it’s either major injury or death just from meeting fists with him. More inclined to believe EX stats.
Yes, I was pleasantly surprised too. Yue Fang is undoubtedly a clown, but unlike all the others, he's a funny and tolerable clown.
If you mock him and say he must be poor he either gives 30 with a 10k charisma check or 20 just because you called him poor. I think he’s actually a child in an adult body, because when you ask how old he is for him to call you kid he gets all flustered and just yells 20, 30 - older than you lol.
Just say it's too late when he offers the qi stone, then choose the pay a fine option
Anyway it’s good to see Niki utilizing crit checks and just max checks in general.
Finally felt a bit strong. Though it’s weird how before this guy was casually handling the Havoc disciples without any techniques against which you either loose or they run, and now you can actually make him apply effort against you.
Guess Niki decided that after the first stage he’ll start using the 15k limit properly.
Finally felt a bit strong. Though it’s weird how before this guy was casually handling the Havoc disciples without any techniques against which you either loose or they run, and now you can actually make him apply effort against you.
Guess Niki decided that after the first stage he’ll start using the 15k limit properly.
It's a shame we can't invest in stats between the limit-raising dream and He Mei's pill. If it were possible, the 'canonical' limit (without items, techniques, tattoos, talents and perks) would be 19.5k, not 15k.
Just rechecked and he does say Early Houtian actually. Must be a mistype, this guy literally rips your arm to shreds up to the elbow just by holding up a fist and letting you hit it. If you only manage to not get damage with 15k crit he has to be EX level.
Interesting how you phrased it. You didn't really imply that the MC can hurt/defeat anyone below EX. And really, you're probably right. We all know that 15k alone should probably not be enough to beat the strongest PHs. But to take a punch from the current MC Stats Max, without an adequate defense and not taking damage, probably no PH can do it (not even Yang Buddhist).
Tbh I know the stats don’t mean much anymore in terms of scaling, but I do actually believe that that the current MC purely stats wise (no aura) if maxed is actually EX level.
If we consider that the caps for Houtian come in 2,5 increments after MH (5k for middle, 7,5k for late and 10k for peak), the MC should be around EX level I believe. This is supported by the fact that the top specialists in stats have values like 9,5k or 9,8k in the arena and they are all strong PH (not counting Ruo).
Even Chu Muchen who is a member of the top 10 can hit you enraged with a technique which you do nothing to dodge (hits you normally if it’s a bet and with an ice technique if enraged) and if you crit on con which is like 12k I believe, you get zero damage and just kinda gasp.
Now he is dumbfounded by this, because a member of the top 10 hitting the MC with a technique on the chest with no defense, even if not full force, and the MC taking zero damage is very impressive and I believe it’s a feat that should be taken into consideration for this.
Now if the cap for PH is 10k (barring any alchemical help or talismans), then if the progression at least a little stable then 15k should be the EX starting point.
The only thing that would refute this is the fact that when you advance from mortal you go from 100 to 1000 and maybe the second rebirth does something similar but I really doubt it. Maybe it’s 20k but in that case it’s really interesting because then the scaling kinda breaks apart.
Because before we were shown that having more than 2-3k in a stat than your opponent basically makes you so much better than them that it’s pretty much an auto win, with the exceptions being people like Ruo with his EH fight against the LH but even then he advanced mid fight.
Also LH Ruo still couldn’t beat the Yang monk but he was top 1 and had incomplete Asura + Buddha transformation so it’s probably another exception.
Once again it’s hard to determine but I’d say having 15k in every stat puts the MC at either weak EX level stat wise (no aura) or at least gives him a chance to hurt them.
On this I disagree. Certainly, 15k is above the limit that any PH can hope to reach without techniques, items or buffs. But in my estimation, any EX, even the most inferior, should have stats above 20k, at least. I believe that from PH to EX, the increase in stats is proportional to or greater than that from Mortal to EH.
But yes, I can agree that there is a chance that the MC (with stats only) could hurt an EX, I'm not confident, but I don't deny the possibility. After all, if I'm not mistaken, someone here has already mentioned that Nicky said that Ruo could hurt an MX that doesn't react.
But if the subject is the MC with Dao and stats, then yes, it's almost certain that he can hurt an EX (hurt, not defeat), one way or another.
First of all damn Ruo wank is unreal. But if Ruo can hurt a MX who doesn’t do anything would mean that his attacks somehow would have to bypass at least anywhere from 200k to 500k of constitution by your estimation.
If from PH to EX it’s like from a mortal to a EH, then EX should be a base limit of 100k
if we take the 10x increase.
Then if it is to make any sense then an EX would have to have a minimum of what? 10k base is a genius PH, then if we want to keep the scaling consistent a MX would have to have a limit of 500k or something similar.
So Ruo (somehow) can manage to hurt a dude with anywhere from 200k to 500k constitution. Now that’s just ridiculous even with his techniques because he just can’t use them at that power level as a (maybe)PH.
No technique in the world even made with the glorious Wank Dao that Ruo has should be able to bypass a 200k+ stat difference.
Like during the expedition we can try to hit Xiwen who is a LH on the face and only manage to move his head slightly and not break our hand against his head if we have 5k con while his limit is 7,5k at that point.
These numbers would be completely ludicrous and stats would loose any meaning they have left then but Niki keeps using a battle system where he actually gives opponents a full on statblock that is unique to them, so I can’t believe that’s true.
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