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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

Sov

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On this I disagree. Certainly, 15k is above the limit that any PH can hope to reach without techniques, items or buffs. But in my estimation, any EX, even the most inferior, should have stats above 20k, at least. I believe that from PH to EX, the increase in stats is proportional to or greater than that from Mortal to EH.

But yes, I can agree that there is a chance that the MC (with stats only) could hurt an EX, I'm not confident, but I don't deny the possibility. After all, if I'm not mistaken, someone here has already mentioned that Nicky said that Ruo could hurt an MX that doesn't react.

But if the subject is the MC with Dao and stats, then yes, it's almost certain that he can hurt an EX (hurt, not defeat), one way or another.
"What you observe now, however, places Wu Shen closer to the monsters ranking in top-10, if not interjects him straight into their mix. Multiple Peak-Houtians attack him, drowning him in stabs and punches, yet he more than holds his own.". This is Mei personal thoughts about mc strength for non DES squad.

Also Ruo could hurt the MX due to having Tang Jia slash which is S level and other stuff (all of which he can't bring to the tourney considering the Houtian artifacts limit). On his own he is extremely f*cked
 
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Arlonb

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First of all damn Ruo wank is unreal. But if Ruo can hurt a MX who doesn’t do anything would mean that his attacks somehow would have to bypass at least anywhere from 200k to 500k of constitution by your estimation.

If from PH to EX it’s like from a mortal to a EH, then EX should be a base limit of 100k
if we take the 10x increase.

Then if it is to make any sense then an EX would have to have a minimum of what? 10k base is a genius PH, then if we want to keep the scaling consistent a MX would have to have a limit of 500k or something similar.

So Ruo (somehow) can manage to hurt a dude with anywhere from 200k to 500k constitution. Now that’s just ridiculous even with his techniques because he just can’t use them at that power level as a (maybe)PH.

No technique in the world even made with the glorious Wank Dao that Ruo has should be able to bypass a 200k+ stat difference.

Like during the expedition we can try to hit Xiwen who is a LH on the face and only manage to move his head slightly and not break our hand against his head if we have 5k con while his limit is 7,5k at that point.

These numbers would be completely ludicrous and stats would loose any meaning they have left then but Niki keeps using a battle system where he actually gives opponents a full on statblock that is unique to them, so I can’t believe that’s true.
Oh, make no mistake, I'm not one of Ruo's fanboys. In my humble opinion, the possibility that Ruo could hurt an MX is ridiculous and absurd. But unfortunately, it wouldn't be strange if Nicky actually said this, not because it makes sense, but because Nicky loves Ruo.

Now, back to the technical details... By the model I suggested, an EX's stat limit would be 100k or something a bit higher. Therefore, the limits of an MX should be 250k or higher. Which in fact only makes the statement about Ruo more ridiculous. But of course, such stats are just estimates, I don't really have any facts to be sure.

My point is, I don't completely disagree with you, but I still don't think 15k is EX level. I think it's somewhere between PH and EX. I believe that 15k would be the level of the lowest stat of a weak EX (just as we've seen PHs with one or two stats at the level of LHs).
 

Arlonb

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"What you observe now, however, places Wu Shen closer to the monsters ranking in top-10, if not interjects him straight into their mix. Multiple Peak-Houtians attack him, drowning him in stabs and punches, yet he more than holds his own.". This is Mei personal thoughts about mc strength for non DES squad.

Also Ruo could hurt the MX due to having Tang Jia slash which is S level and other stuff (all of which he can't bring to the tourney considering the Houtian artifacts limit). On his own he is extremely f*cked
Oh... So that was Jia's slash... For a minute, I was really worried. I thought Nicky was crazy when he said that.
 

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EH? Do you maybe mean peak or EX? Because you can have a little scuffle with him and to my surprise, the Wu Heir is not a complete bum in it.

He first tries to just laugh and allow you to hit his fist but from there it’s either a 15k crit con check where you get no damage and surprise him a lot, then a 15k perception and agility check to blow him through a wall and destroy your house and then dodge an instakill technique with yet another 15k agility check.

After that he actually says you ain’t bad and is chill about it.

Or you pass a 12k con check (above houtian level supposedly) and only get off with a broken arm and he just laughs. If you don’t pass 12k con then I believe it’s either major injury or death just from meeting fists with him. More inclined to believe EX stats.
If we take stats into account, we're gonna hit deadends all the time. I just see it as MC has gotten stronger after the first stage and is able to keep up with someone who comfortably fought with the havoc sect members. Before the toureny, Niki would have definitely nerfed down MC, but he has to buff MC up considereing the insane **** MC pulls fighting multiple PHs. Imo Niki is just increasing the bottom bar for MC. As i said before, we fight, we win, we get stronger. I still dont know if the MC can lose the first stage of the tourney but Niki has to buff up MC somewhere considering our criticisms.
 

Arlonb

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Yes, nice to see that he was holding his own in the fight, when I clicked on ''Attack him'', I was expecting the MC to land a lucky blow and then get beaten up. But as it turns out, the current MC is really strong, at least relatively on the same level as the current Yue Fang.

I say this based on the MC/narrator's thoughts. From what we've seen so far, excluding when we choose what the MC says, he's something between a pessimist and a realist. It's not unusual for him to think 'I don't have a chance', 'I am not ready' or something like that. So for him to have thought 'I'm not confident' means that his opponent is someone of a similar or just slightly higher level.

However, I still believe that in a fight to the bitter end, Yue Fang has the advantage due to his sealed powers and the techniques of the Moon Goddess.
 

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Yes, nice to see that he was holding his own in the fight, when I clicked on ''Attack him'', I was expecting the MC to land a lucky blow and then get beaten up. But as it turns out, the current MC is really strong, at least relatively on the same level as the current Yue Fang.

I say this based on the MC/narrator's thoughts. From what we've seen so far, excluding when we choose what the MC says, he's something between a pessimist and a realist. It's not unusual for him to think 'I don't have a chance', 'I am not ready' or something like that. So for him to have thought 'I'm not confident' means that his opponent is someone of a similar or just slightly higher level.

However, I still believe that in a fight to the bitter end, Yue Fang has the advantage due to his sealed powers and the techniques of the Moon Goddess.
Yeah, Imo both seem even but Yue Fang has the stronger arts. That was the reason MC lost confidence cuz one hit from that moon blast could have disintegrated us. We also dont know how strong he can get without going 'boom'. Yue Fang said he could open one seal at a time without dying so we can imagine he can get stronger than us by sacrificing himself a bit if he decides we're too much of a threat. Besides, he gets nervous when we remind him that we are the reincarnation of a god, he even calls TWs physique a bullshit physique lol. It seems all except us knows about TW physique.
 

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He did protect the girl in the tourney and kinda thanks us for keeping our promise to protect her. It seems his lot are chaotic good. Niki is adding content for the good Wu Heirs.

I think he has a very high chance of becoming a ro for female mc's since he is basically the Caihong equivalent
 

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Unpopular opinion, but I don't think that the Ruo and MC power difference is actually that bad. Ruo has a money/training/resources advantage compared to Wu heir who comes from a pretty much fallen clan, and doesn't train (or at least not shown to train) half as much, so that's going to create a massive difference. Now, do I believe that Nikki is nerfing the MC too much? Oh yeah, definitely. But sometimes the anti-Ruo circlejerk gets as bad as his fans. Ruo's power scaling isn't the problem, the problem is that MC's power scaling is inconsistent on top of there being a lack of reflection of their feats in the story. Wu heir goes from powerful to a bum depending on how Nikki wants the fight to turn out, and the storyline and game still treats the MC like we just entered the sect. It's been years, MC has some impressive feats + being trained by a master as a Core Disciple. Why are we still stuck at Houtian when the plot has obviously past that point. I believe the cultivator fest is supposed to fix that issue by making potential enemies stronger, so MC doesn't out power all their opponents, but in reality, it just made the situation worse. Ruo is actually scaling with the plot, which makes it more jarring. MC is supposed to be stronger than Ruo, but obviously less skilled, using their strength to overpower opponents rather than outsmarting them. But as I said, MC is still being handled with Houtian gloves when the plot has obviously past that point, so Ruo who is scaling in line with the plot seems to be OP when in reality he's not, it's just bad writing.

There's also the problem of how the game pretty much has one sole viable route and the storyline sometimes feels like it's punishing you for not going that route, but that's a whole rant I have when it comes to POMA as a female MC player, especially with this recent update.
 

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Unpopular opinion, but I don't think that the Ruo and MC power difference is actually that bad. Ruo has a money/training/resources advantage compared to Wu heir who comes from a pretty much fallen clan, and doesn't train (or at least not shown to train) half as much, so that's going to create a massive difference. Now, do I believe that Nikki is nerfing the MC too much? Oh yeah, definitely. But sometimes the anti-Ruo circlejerk gets as bad as his fans. Ruo's power scaling isn't the problem, the problem is that MC's power scaling is inconsistent on top of there being a lack of reflection of their feats in the story. Wu heir goes from powerful to a bum depending on how Nikki wants the fight to turn out, and the storyline and game still treats the MC like we just entered the sect. It's been years, MC has some impressive feats + being trained by a master as a Core Disciple. Why are we still stuck at Houtian when the plot has obviously past that point. I believe the cultivator fest is supposed to fix that issue by making potential enemies stronger, so MC doesn't out power all their opponents, but in reality, it just made the situation worse. Ruo is actually scaling with the plot, which makes it more jarring. MC is supposed to be stronger than Ruo, but obviously less skilled, using their strength to overpower opponents rather than outsmarting them. But as I said, MC is still being handled with Houtian gloves when the plot has obviously past that point, so Ruo who is scaling in line with the plot seems to be OP when in reality he's not, it's just bad writing.

There's also the problem of how the game pretty much has one sole viable route and the storyline sometimes feels like it's punishing you for not going that route, but that's a whole rant I have when it comes to POMA as a female MC player, especially with this recent update.

It's been years but for actual time for us it's been less than a year and not even that late year considering we spent 2.5 years total in a coma and we just recently turned 22

Also what do you mean exactly by the plot has past the Houtian point. Because the plot only works if we are H otherwise if we are EX this Tourney arc would be more like spend 2 minutes crushing skulls and the other three hours of the stage remaining time chilling. Repeat repeat repeat until we get to Ruo. If you are asking why we aren't X level yet. In the span of six months we went from a strong MH to among the top 10 PH and probably X by the end considering I doubt the tourney will last more than a month
 
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Sorry, but I can’t let Ruo praise go without hating back. My problem isn’t he’s stronger or whatever blah blah. It’s that he’s got ****ing everything, OP sword attuned never before seen someone so attuned to the sword before obviously gonna unlock sword Dao. He’s got an OP transformation “ MC does too” literally you have to go through a specific route to get it doesn’t count to me. Oh MC has a once in a billion years Physique? Don’t worry Ruo has a once in a million years one that lets him keep up with you. We have to pick and choose and he just had it, whatever that’s fine Niki did not want to do too much coding with weapons so made the Wu clan hate weapons that’s fair. I’m not getting a transformation because I’m not going down that route so. The thing that really got me is in the short span we talked to TW he managed to glaze Ruo, and it was that moment I said I will never give Ruo the satisfaction of glaze or props from me. “In a real cultivation world they would’ve lined up to take Ruo as their disciple”. MC was like I’m going to become super strong with this new knowledge, and TW is like hold on there buddy you’re not the real MC and just glazes Ruo. I will not be surprised if he meets Yue Fang and gets glazed it’s 100% happening. I just feels like Ruo has everything MC does and more, that’s where my hatred comes from. He’s literally forming his Dao? naturally lmao yeah ok.
 

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Sorry, but I can’t let Ruo praise go without hating back. My problem isn’t he’s stronger or whatever blah blah. It’s that he’s got ****ing everything, OP sword attuned never before seen someone so attuned to the sword before obviously gonna unlock sword Dao. He’s got an OP transformation “ MC does too” literally you have to go through a specific route to get it doesn’t count to me. Oh MC has a once in a billion years Physique? Don’t worry Ruo has a once in a million years one that lets him keep up with you. We have to pick and choose and he just had it, whatever that’s fine Niki did not want to do too much coding with weapons so made the Wu clan hate weapons that’s fair. I’m not getting a transformation because I’m not going down that route so. The thing that really got me is in the short span we talked to TW he managed to glaze Ruo, and it was that moment I said I will never give Ruo the satisfaction of glaze or props from me. “In a real cultivation world they would’ve lined up to take Ruo as their disciple”. MC was like I’m going to become super strong with this new knowledge, and TW is like hold on there buddy you’re not the real MC and just glazes Ruo. I will not be surprised if he meets Yue Fang and gets glazed it’s 100% happening. I just feels like Ruo has everything MC does and more, that’s where my hatred comes from. He’s literally forming his Dao? naturally lmao yeah ok.

Reminder that that the stated reason for Niki as to why he doesn't want to write for example a trilogy about our rise after ascending and leaving the POMA world is that it would be far too easy for us

Also the reason why we have our physique is the same as him. We just have it
 
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Reminder that that the stated reason for Niki as to why he doesn't want to write for example a trilogy about our rise after ascending and leaving the POMA world is that it would be far too easy for us

Also the reason why we have our physique is the same as him. We just have it
Yes, and the problem is he just had to have it too. Idc I’m a hater. Also it would be too easy, but also fun that Dao game has an OP MC and it gained lots of support in the few months it’s been out so there’s a crowd for it. Anyways I’m just hating on Ruo don’t mind me.
 

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Yes, and the problem is he just had to have it too. Idc I’m a hater. Also it would be too easy, but also fun that Dao game has an OP MC and it gained lots of support in the few months it’s been out so there’s a crowd for it. Anyways I’m just hating on Ruo don’t mind me.

Fun fact. You think Yue Fang is spoiled? His mother isn't even an Immortal Emperor. Now what is an Immortal Emperor to a god like Sovereign? Literally just being one of his many concubines gives more prestige/wealth/power than an Immortal Emperor. Now who will reach Godhood faster the son of a god like the Sovereign or us? Niki said that we will reach Godhood faster than the children of the gods btw.
 
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