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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

justindeed

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Say, quick question, does being in the LB route locks you out of being in mansion mates with Yue Fang? I agreed to destroy the array, got to the scene where he kicked elder Ping out and then came to us to ask why we haven't packed our stuff to move to the mansion yet. But it always ends with him leaving angrily because he couldn't comprehend the fact that we're working together as EQUALS rather than MC serving him.
In my experience if you're virtuous and saved the girl (i don't recall her name) and generally agreed with destroying the arrays then you should get the option to room up with him still. I find that he always leaves if you don't go through with the event of saving Peng Xinhong or whatever her name was however so he always leaves in evil runs.

It's possible that has changed recently though and you need to side with the Yue fully now.
 

Arlonb

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The Tang Fire art is only Nirvana
It's Void.

But yes, unfortunately, it's true. It's unrealistic to expect anything beyond Void. For comparison, the current Realm Annihilating Fist (which is weakened due to the MC's rudimentary understanding) is described by Nicky as “it's fair to call it a Nirvana-grade in its current version”. So we can guess how OP Nirvana spells/Arts must be.
 

justindeed

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It's Void.
Oh, my bad. I think I might be misremembering what Yue Yan said and the original art was Nirvana while the Tang parody is High-Void.
But yes, unfortunately, it's true. It's unrealistic to expect anything beyond Void. For comparison, the current Realm Annihilating Fist (which is weakened due to the MC's rudimentary understanding) is described by Nicky as “it's fair to call it a Nirvana-grade in its current version”. So we can guess how OP Nirvana spells/Arts must be.
Was the original RAF an immortal magic or a low-level divine miracle? I seem to recall not even immortal-level Tang Wei in the flashback being able to handle it fully, which is a bit absurd if you ask me.
 

Arlonb

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Was the original RAF an immortal magic or a low-level divine miracle?
Immortal magic.
I seem to recall not even immortal-level Tang Wei in the flashback being able to handle it fully, which is a bit absurd if you ask me.
I suppose it's because they are three daos at the same time. Unlike Dual or Tri Cultivation, which doesn't directly make you more powerful, just more versatile and harder to kill, Tri Dao makes you more powerful.
 

Raidou

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I was thinking, is it normal for gods and cultivators to have multiple daos? or is TW just special?
From the conversation with LB, Tang Wei is just HIM. Others don't pursue more than 1 Dao since the difficulty of learning it isn't linear, since you're essentially trying to understand more than 1 truth, but how can that be when the truth is only the truth because everything else is false? Those who try either gave up, went insane, or stagnated and wither away.

Apparently she's also someone with multiple Dao (probably only two since I can't see her equal to or even surpassing Tang Wei) with the way she talks about how you need obsession to walk the path of multiple Dao like Tang Wei and her.
 

justindeed

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If I recall correctly, at the immortal level you aren't constrained by your dao compatibility anymore, so you can just study whatever you want. I think it was Lady Butterfly who mentioned this.

Which is to say cultivating three different dao until then is a pretty insane path to take. Tang Wei just did it because he's him and had the will and physique to back it.
 

Gone_Dead

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If I recall correctly, at the immortal level you aren't constrained by your dao compatibility anymore, so you can just study whatever you want. I think it was Lady Butterfly who mentioned this.

Which is to say cultivating three different dao until then is a pretty insane path to take. Tang Wei just did it because he's him and had the will and physique to back it.
Then isnt it possible TW studied 2 more daos after becoming an immortal?
 

justindeed

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Then isnt it possible TW studied 2 more daos after becoming an immortal?
From my understanding he studied his 3 original daos (Body, Void, Elemental) until immortality then he picked up all these other dao and arts some of which we see in POMA world.

I think the book that implies this was the first one on Martial Arts, which said all arts you see in POMA were either used by TW during the Conquest or a parody of them. With the exception of the Su and their spear art which we know are original.

Meaning he somehow stopped during the formation of the Empire to play dice or something thus creating Xiao Chun's art? Actually thats quite funny now that I think about it
 
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justindeed

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If I recall correctly, at the immortal level you aren't constrained by your dao compatibility anymore, so you can just study whatever you want. I think it was Lady Butterfly who mentioned this.

Which is to say cultivating three different dao until then is a pretty insane path to take. Tang Wei just did it because he's him and had the will and physique to back it.
I found the quote:
"Until Immortality, your Dao is not yours. It belongs to others, be it Heavens or powerful beings. And if you wish to learn it, you'll need to accept it as the Truth. Because it is. Dao is Truth, and their Dao is their Truth.\"","","\"However, treading multiple paths at once meaning learning multiple truths. But truth is only true because everything else is false. How, then, can there be two Truths? How can there be three? This contradiction makes those daring enough to broaden their understanding stagnate and forfeit. And don't think that it will be easy to find an answer for it: this problem will plague you until your Dao becomes truly yours, infused into your flesh and present in your every breath.\"",
I'm glad I remembered it correctly haha
 

Gone_Dead

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I found the quote:

I'm glad I remembered it correctly haha
LB says that until you become immortal, you basically are using the dao taught to you by your master. In Ruo's case his truth is also his aunt's truth if she had dao. For MC, their dao is TW's until we become immortal and can develop our own understanding of it. But there is nothing stating that you can learn more dao after becoming immortal. And i dont remember reading something like that too.
 

justindeed

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LB says that until you become immortal, you basically are using the dao taught to you by your master. In Ruo's case his truth is also his aunt's truth if she had dao. For MC, their dao is TW's until we become immortal and can develop our own understanding of it. But there is nothing stating that you can learn more dao after becoming immortal. And i dont remember reading something like that too.
As I said we know that every IE martial art in POMA we see besides the Su Clan's is either something Tang Wei used during the Conquest or a parody of it. Meaning it's a spell he learned at some point. Meaning he studied it with his dao seed/sprout/sapling/tree.

It just doesn't make sense unless he can use spells outside of his dao and make dao slips out of them for the Celestials and onwards. Or the retcon devil striked again and POMA people have non-Tang Wei originary spells for some reason.
 

AGoldenExperience

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I understand now, thanks. This is very confusingly handled in the game imo, so I hope this is cleared out in the text.

Changing subjects, and as someone else said, I hope we get the opportunity to augment the clan arts to transcendant sometime in the future. I'd love to see what Chao can do with something like a Transcendant version of Void Step or Flesh Scorching Kicks.
A Transcendent version of Void Step would be very close to something like time skip or time stop i'd imagine, basically being in the void excludes you from the effects of the mortal world and allows you to act while the world is halted in the second you void stepped in.
 

justindeed

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A Transcendent version of Void Step would be very close to something like time skip or time stop, basically forcing the rest of the world to slow down or halt so you alone can act in the void.
Monkey God comments at one point that Void is the little sister of Time. Maybe one can influence the other still but I'm inclined to believe Void is limited to spatial manipulation.
 

AGoldenExperience

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Meaning he somehow stopped during the formation of the Empire to play dice or something thus creating Xiao Chun's art? Actually thats quite funny now that I think about it
I presume that was due to something like a bet over the dice that probably went like "whoever wins this game will gain a large swathe of land" or something similar that he took out of some vested amusement?, idk.
 

AGoldenExperience

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Monkey God comments at one point that Void is the little sister of Time. Maybe one can influence the other still but I'm inclined to believe Void is limited to spatial manipulation.
Time and Space are very much related, there's a lot of physics papers written regarding that subject so I imagine that's where Nicky got the concept from, so Void at the highest level can manipulate both I'd imagine.
 

Arlonb

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LB says that until you become immortal, you basically are using the dao taught to you by your master. In Ruo's case his truth is also his aunt's truth if she had dao. For MC, their dao is TW's until we become immortal and can develop our own understanding of it. But there is nothing stating that you can learn more dao after becoming immortal. And i dont remember reading something like that too.
From what my friend explained to me, after a certain level, you can use your dao to understand/replicate other dao, even if not up to the same level.
 
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