Stories that left you disappointed for a reason

[f8butterfly]

Is anyone else bored of how inoffensive everything is in newer IFS like everyone is a good person or morally gray even if they claim the IF is going to be #superangsty!!! Kind of just a nitpick but I hate how people will add queer rep too the story but they're so scared of being offensive they just dont do anything with it like you're telling me everyone in a medieval setting is going to be accepting of a character being queer and going to ask me for my pronouns???

One of the most hated characters in this thread is a really good example of this. The author cannot decide whether or not their character is flawed or perfect. Their best friend, too. How can your story, tumblr, side blog, and patreon all tell different things about your character? Own that they're flawed and complex and need therapy.

(I'm avoiding saying anything because this game has pages and pages of people complaining about it so I'm being vague. I'm not trying to have the same conversation occur)

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

It's just slice of life with some minor family drama.

The thing is adding the affair is peak family drama, a literal telenovela plot.

Your step mom is cheating on your dad with his best friend (who could also be your boyfriend's dad) so your dad gets mad and strips him of his titles (orders him to be executed in some tellings). This gets ex-bestie unhappy so ends up going on a rampage and kills childhood bestie's (possibly your boyfriend as well) sibling which makes childhood bestie mad at him too so he declares war against him and everything just downhill from there.

Honestly needs two more bastards and a surprise pregnancy to be peak.

 

[Serpent]

That was what I was getting at. There's nothing to avenge, no one to fight... It's just slice of life with some minor family drama. But there has to be some plot incoming, right? Right?


I meant something like... Morrowind-era TES. Weird and glorious and did I say weird? Because it's fantasyyy, man.

It's more like anything but modern-day mentality is so uncomfortable to them they cannot write it. Like Suevi's author rewriting the game because it featured slavery, and it was "too much power imbalance" for them to handle.

Same thing of dragging modern day sensibilities where they don't belong.

I wouldn't have my hopes too high for the plot thing... Just my personal opinion though

Yeah, they can't write ****. As you mentioned, Suevi author wants to write angst and trauma and whatnot, and then is like, well, it kinda sucks so we won't be doing that smh But honestly, it's the modern day mentality of wet wipes who are offended and triggered by anything and everything, so one can't really expect much from them. The things L told me on this subject, but I won't say much, without his explicit approval.

 

[Serpent]

One of the most hated characters in this thread is a really good example of this. The author cannot decide whether or not their character is flawed or perfect. Their best friend, too. How can your story, tumblr, side blog, and patreon all tell different things about your character? Own that they're flawed and complex and need therapy.

That's called range /s

 

[Serpent]

The thing is adding the affair is peak family drama, a literal telenovela plot.

Your step mom is cheating on your dad with his best friend (who could also be your boyfriend's dad) so your dad gets mad and strips him of his titles (orders him to be executed in some tellings). This gets ex-bestie unhappy so ends up going on a rampage and kills childhood bestie's (possibly your boyfriend as well) sibling which makes childhood bestie mad at him too so he declares war against him and everything just downhill from there.

Honestly needs two more bastards and a surprise pregnancy to be peak.

We'll write the two bastards and a surprise pregnancy fanfic. We got this

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

But honestly, it's the modern day mentality of wet wipes who are offended and triggered by anything and everything,

The sad part is this mentality is recent, like 2020 recent. I'd push it back to 2018. It started with 'Everything goes as along as you don't hurt someone' to people realizing they could take advantage of what constitutes as hurting someone so they could ride a moral high horse and feel better about their shitty lives.

 

[wkahwoah]

Oh this is facts, but that's just because the writers of those works are just a bunch of pussies. Besides, not sure if you saw what happened to my boy L for defending the word retard. Those degenerates would be all over any writer who mentions anything like that, unless they simp for the said author. A few have managed to have that standing within the community, where they will have the loyal simp dog fans, so yeah, unless they are the ones writing that, don't expect anyone else to

The IF community tries to make everything "cozy" and "inoffensive" it's weird I wish we had IFs where the MC and other characters were allowed to be bad people like i don't want to play as a spineless angel for the 100th time and I dont want every character to be super progressive but nooo if you make mean or bad characters that means you're mean and bad and you're going to get canceled on tumblr!!!

 

[Serpent]

The sad part is this mentality is recent, like 2020 recent. I'd push it back to 2018. It started with 'Everything goes as along as you don't hurt someone' to people realizing they could take advantage of what constitutes as hurting someone so they could ride a moral high horse and feel better about their shitty lives.

L kinda said the same thing, but those bitchasses were like nooooo, that's an ancient thing from the dawn of time smh
And yeeeeah. I honestly miss the good old era of like 2016, when people didn't have to worry about **** like that. It's a pain in the *** that that mentality exists really, and that games in general are suffering because of it. Not just IFs, but actual other games as well.
So here's to hoping that all of that changes, sooner rather than later

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

We'll write the two bastards and a surprise pregnancy fanfic. We got this

Great now to decide who brings more drama. Dating Galahad? Dating Gawain? Both? Both sounds like the answer. Two more bastards are easy, make one of them our sibling (Morgana's child with Accolon) and make the other Genevieve's kid with Lancelot that she hid somehow. The surprise pregnancy can be anyone including Mordred.

 

[Serpent]

The IF community tries to make everything "cozy" and "inoffensive" it's weird I wish we had IFs where the MC and other characters were allowed to be bad people like i don't want to play as a spineless angel for the 100th time and I dont want every character to be super progressive but nooo if you make mean or bad characters that means you're mean and bad and you're going to get canceled on tumblr!!!

People are just on pussies who's worst fear is humiliation on ****ing Tumbl. Though, I do have to say, as I mentioned above, there are exceptions to this.
As far as I know, Jude's wwc is like that, and her other games too I suppose. But the only reason she can do that, is because of her simp parasocial fans. Aside from that one though, I think that only other work that I can think of would be L's up and coming tdc, but yeah, everything else is written by spineless people who want to please the progressive audience ffs

 

[Serpent]

Great now to decide who brings more drama. Dating Galahad? Dating Gawain? Both? Both sounds like the answer. Two more bastards are easy, make one of them our sibling (Morgana's child with Accolon) and make the other Genevieve's kid with Lancelot that she hid somehow. The surprise pregnancy can be anyone including Mordred.

For the surprise pregnancy, I recommend either doing a poll, or throw a dart at the names on the wall, blindfolded of course, and whoever it lands on, that one gets pregnant, no matter who it is. You know, just do add the possibility of that progressive mpreg theme Though honestly, whatever you think would work best, I'll back ya up

 

[seneya]

I hope yall appreciate this, this is peak literature straight from the 5k years bc

Nonono, it needs to be in badly written ye olde Englishe. "Dost thou knowest what thou lackest?"
also please leave my man Gilgamesh alone

Your step mom is cheating on your dad with his best friend (who could also be your boyfriend's dad) so your dad gets mad and strips him of his titles (orders him to be executed in some tellings). This gets ex-bestie unhappy so ends up going on a rampage and kills childhood bestie's (possibly your boyfriend as well) sibling which makes childhood bestie mad at him too so he declares war against him and everything just downhill from there.

So, uh, you mind starting an IF? I'd read that lol.

 

[Serpent]

Nonono, it needs to be in badly written ye olde Englishe. "Dost thou knowest what thou lackest?"
also please leave my man Gilgamesh alone


So, uh, you mind starting an IF? I'd read that lol.

Hey, I adore my boy Gil! No hate towards him ! I just used an example of a tale from ancient times, how it would be written by these "new authors". Though your version could also fly, but with the ones who dedicate like a few minutes to search up the olde englishe termine

And also, as you can see, the new IF fanfic will be started! All we need is a rec for the surprise pregnancy and only then can we get the ball rolling

 

[seneya]

the surprise pregnancy

It has to be with the dragon.

 

[Serpent]

It has to be with the dragon.

@yourstalkeroutside WE GOT THE REC! SURPRISE PREGNANCY IS WITH A FOCKING DRAGON!

Now, we just need to start cooking

 

[tendimes]

I just finished beyond the mist and holy **** this was one of the worst ifs ive ever read so far. So, so disappointing how you're paying 21 dollars for ****. Which is so disappointing as well given how much I enjoyed TSSW. I hated MC's personality and how "weak" and a pushover they are. All choices lead to the same thing: boohoo sad me I live with my abusive parent as an adult and there's absolutely nothing I can do about that. You're like a full fledge adult bro, get a job and gtfo. Maybe it's just a me thing but I don't really see how horrendous their life is. Like yeah sure MC's mom is mean and manipulative but the way the ROs react, who btw are genuinely the only people you interact with (which is INSANE to me), you'd think MC's mother was satan reincarnated.
Everything doesn't make sense to me, why would I accept a plane ticket from someone I just met a few days ago? (girl they are going to traffick my ***???) Why insert this random lady being mean to us because we're friends with the RO, then proceed to almost drown her and send her off? When you add these small things to the story they're supposed to showcase something right? What can I conclude from that apart from the RO doesn't like people bullying what's theirs (DUH as if they haven't made it abundantly clear from the amount of times "greed", "possession", "desire" has been written to describe ANY interaction MC has with the ROs). I don't get the point of the story, the pacing is all over the place and the fact that MC does not question anything going on in their life rn is just so wild to me. They acknowledged that part too btw, but they just brushed past it and went back into trance dumb MC mode again. Genuinely such a disappointment, I never make posts like these at all but I was so astounded by the **** I just read I had to say something.

 

[jaded]

Your step mom is cheating on your dad with his best friend (who could also be your boyfriend's dad) so your dad gets mad and strips him of his titles (orders him to be executed in some tellings). This gets ex-bestie unhappy so ends up going on a rampage and kills childhood bestie's (possibly your boyfriend as well) sibling which makes childhood bestie mad at him too so he declares war against him and everything just downhill from there.

Honestly needs two more bastards and a surprise pregnancy to be peak.

C.C Hill is you????

 

[Serpent]

C.C Hill is you????

CAUGHT IN 4K, EXPOSED!!!

 

[Serpent]

I just finished beyond the mist and holy **** this was one of the worst ifs ive ever read so far. So, so disappointing how you're paying 21 dollars for ****. Which is so disappointing as well given how much I enjoyed TSSW. I hated MC's personality and how "weak" and a pushover they are. All choices lead to the same thing: boohoo sad me I live with my abusive parent as an adult and there's absolutely nothing I can do about that. You're like a full fledge adult bro, get a job and gtfo. Maybe it's just a me thing but I don't really see how horrendous their life is. Like yeah sure MC's mom is mean and manipulative but the way the ROs react, who btw are genuinely the only people you interact with (which is INSANE to me), you'd think MC's mother was satan reincarnated.
Everything doesn't make sense to me, why would I accept a plane ticket from someone I just met a few days ago? (girl they are going to traffick my ***???) Why insert this random lady being mean to us because we're friends with the RO, then proceed to almost drown her and send her off? When you add these small things to the story they're supposed to showcase something right? What can I conclude from that apart from the RO doesn't like people bullying what's theirs (DUH as if they haven't made it abundantly clear from the amount of times "greed", "possession", "desire" has been written to describe ANY interaction MC has with the ROs). I don't get the point of the story, the pacing is all over the place and the fact that MC does not question anything going on in their life rn is just so wild to me. They acknowledged that part too btw, but they just brushed past it and went back into trance dumb MC mode again. Genuinely such a disappointment, I never make posts like these at all but I was so astounded by the **** I just read I had to say something.

And that, my friend, is why piracy is God send. You pirate that, play it, and if you like it and deem it good and worthy, give author the amount you want via their patreon or kofi. That's how it should be done, if ya ask me

 

[f8butterfly]

I just finished beyond the mist and holy **** this was one of the worst ifs ive ever read so far.

I find it misleading that it's tagged as a VN because of the commissioned artwork. IFs can have artwork and it does not make them VNs. The same way some of these authors will release a IF with 2 to 3 player choices and or many choices but with no game play differences and label their game as an IF. That's not an IF, that's your story that people can click to continue to the next page.