Stories that left you disappointed for a reason

[mis07]

Honestly, I don't think Alvina has done anything potentially harmful/evil to MC yet? Apart from not liking the MC, and trying to distance Seven from a person, who Alvina believes is bad... They did nothing.

Seven, however, is a completely different beast. I agree that they's no saint, but I never felt like Amy was trying to make them look like one. Maybe it's because I'm not a native English speaker, and so for me, something gets lost in translation. Who knows.

As I said, I don't think Amy really thinks of Alvina and Seven as a perfect match. Would I like to see them together? Absolutely not. But I don't think that's the point of Alvina and Seven.

Their POVs seem to go like this: Alvina wants to replace the MC, perhaps without realizing it.

Seven though, no matter how "close" he says they are, never seems to really open up to them. In one of the POVs, if I'm not mistaken, Seven himself says that Alvina can't understand them. Something like that.

And I mean, Seven is hypocritical. And what happens when you feel betrayed and you're dependent on someone.

I say this because when I was younger it was the same as Seven.

She was a girl who gave everything for the people close to me, especially those I was dependent on. In that moment, you feel betrayed, as if someone had stabbed you in the heart. Your entire psyche changes. That person who once brought you happiness has now caused you unimaginable pain. It doesn't matter if it was a small, silly matter.

You feel like the air is missing. The ground beneath your feet. It's as if someone has torn a part of you away, leaving you in pieces. And that's where anger kicks in. The desire for revenge kicks in. You want that person to feel even a little bit of the harm they've done to you. What if they do the same thing? Even worse, because you don't think logically.

That's not an excuse. Of course not.

I don't think Amy really changes her mind, but we'll only really know that later.

I can think one thing about her, you another... But in the end, none of us really know what she want for her characters, for the story, and what she really think.

Of course, everyone may or may not like the way she approaches questions. I wish she were clearer, But I don't have any problems with the way it interacts either. As long as the story is written coherently.

They (Avina) haven’t done anything bad to MC yet, at least from what I remember. I was referring to their behavior towards Seven. Their “niceness” seems to be a front rather than actually how they act. Not saying Avina is mean but I think it is a facade so no one leaves them and to avoid arguments, rather than them actually being that nice. Their POVs do not come off as someone genuine and when they think of Seven, it is very creepy to read. Characters can have growth but at this very moment in the story, whenever I hear something positive about Avina from her tumblr, I just can’t believe it. Edit: Actually, I do think Avina has been mean to MC. But they don't know about it. They keep telling Seven that MC does bad things or possibly could have done them. They also assume the worst of MC, due to Seven being vague about everything (maybe as an attempt to get Seven to forget them?).

It’s kinda funny that the one thing Seven is scared of the most, abandonment, is exactly what they did to MC. Over something that can be solved within a few conversations.

Sorry for the tangent, just thought I'd add why I particularly think so many people find Seven to be faultless. It's weirdly because of Victoria. What cements this idea to a lot of her fans is that she has equated Victoria to Seven and MC to G...which is a bit much, imo. She's done this several times and if we know anything about Victoria and G, Victoria is the more understandable/pitiful one in the relationship. How does that make the fans feel towards Seven and MC? Like MC is G, and that is not a great comparison. This is an issue for me considering the more I find out about Victoria, G, and Blake and equate it to Seven and MC’s relationship, I actually think G and Seven are more similar that people think. Of course, this would mean I find MC, Blake, and Victoria similar to one another as well. The comparisons aren’t perfect but I find them to match more than the author’s original posts.


Also, I really do hope Amy is trolling. It is a lot more preferable than her changing her mind.

 

[MalloryV]

They (Avina) haven’t done anything bad to MC yet, at least from what I remember. I was referring to their behavior towards Seven. Their “niceness” seems to be a front rather than actually how they act. Not saying Avina is mean but I think it is a facade so no one leaves them and to avoid arguments, rather than them actually being that nice. Their POVs do not come off as someone genuine and when they think of Seven, it is very creepy to read. Characters can have growth but at this very moment in the story, whenever I hear something positive about Avina from her tumblr, I just can’t believe it. Edit: Actually, I do think Avina has been mean to MC. But they don't know about it. They keep telling Seven that MC does bad things or possibly could have done them. They also assume the worst of MC, due to Seven being vague about everything (maybe as an attempt to get Seven to forget them?).

It’s kinda funny that the one thing Seven is scared of the most, abandonment, is exactly what they did to MC. Over something that can be solved within a few conversations.

Sorry for the tangent, just thought I'd add why I particularly think so many people find Seven to be faultless. It's weirdly because of Victoria. What cements this idea to a lot of her fans is that she has equated Victoria to Seven and MC to G...which is a bit much, imo. She's done this several times and if we know anything about Victoria and G, Victoria is the more understandable/pitiful one in the relationship. How does that make the fans feel towards Seven and MC? Like MC is G, and that is not a great comparison. This is an issue for me considering the more I find out about Victoria, G, and Blake and equate it to Seven and MC’s relationship, I actually think G and Seven are more similar that people think. Of course, this would mean I find MC, Blake, and Victoria similar to one another as well. The comparisons aren’t perfect but I find them to match more than the author’s original posts.


Also, I really do hope Amy is trolling. It is a lot more preferable than her changing her mind.

Yes? I missed those posts. I always thought Blake and Seven were parallels in that they both have a deep grudge against someone who seemingly meant the world to them (MC/G).

I can see the parallel between Victoria and Seven, if I close my eyes wide open. Victoria is almost always behind G to solve their problems, while Seven was always behind MC because they was dependent on them. But it still wouldn't be a 1:1 comparison.

I can see G and Seven as more similar in some aspects (G's alcohol addiction vs. Seven's addiction to MC) and in the expectations they have of people (G expecting Victoria to fix they problems and forgive them, vs Seven's expectations of MC and what they should have done).

In the end, I feel like Seven and MC have several character comparisons, and it really depends on how you play.

 

[mis07]

Yes? I missed those posts. I always thought Blake and Seven were parallels in that they both have a deep grudge against someone who seemingly meant the world to them (MC/G).

I can see the parallel between Victoria and Seven, if I close my eyes wide open. Victoria is almost always behind G to solve their problems, while Seven was always behind MC because they was dependent on them. But it still wouldn't be a 1:1 comparison.

I can see G and Seven as more similar in some aspects (G's alcohol addiction vs. Seven's addiction to MC) and in the expectations they have of people (G expecting Victoria to fix they problems and forgive them, vs Seven's expectations of MC and what they should have done).

In the end, I feel like Seven and MC have several character comparisons, and it really depends on how you play.

Yeah, definitely. I guess she needs to be more careful with her statements on the game. I think she might be self-inserting too much (not her, but her character). She's said previously that in IFs, including Infamous, she always plays as jokesters who don't take much serious and would be more concerned about the band and their career rather than relationships. When you have a customizable MC, they can be anything. She can't just speak in absolutes on character dynamics when it comes to the MC.

 

[MalloryV]

Yeah, definitely. I guess she needs to be more careful with her statements on the game. I think she might be self-inserting too much (not her, but her character). She's said previously that in IFs, including Infamous, she always plays as jokesters who don't take much serious and would be more concerned about the band and their career rather than relationships. When you have a customizable MC, they can be anything. She can't just speak in absolutes on character dynamics when it comes to the MC.

It is possible.
I think the same thing happened with the author of another game; she herself admitted that she always played with a stoic and serious MC. And I remember that when I played, my complaint was that it felt too serious, regardless of the dialogue options.

But it's something that can be polished before the game is released.

 

[mis07]

The foreboding (a bit dramatic, ik) feeling around Soft Violence starts in when in POVs it is described how Seven met Soft Violence. Seven did not end up in a better situation. Seven has someone controlling them and their actions under the guise of being helpful (THEY ARE NOT A THERAPIST), conditioning them to forget about someone they knew for 10 years. Seven and SV present the situation as Avina and Soft Violence saving Seven but the more I think about it...the more exploitative and insincere Soft Violence feels? They took a distraught person in, took advantage of them, validated their opinions all because they needed a singer. It was calculated. Even if I were to view Avina’s actions as protective because they think MC is evil, they still have a lot of unhealthy behaviors towards Seven. Someone who isn’t even fully comfortable around them. The game has a hard time convincing me Seven is “normal” when MC isn’t around considering Avina apparently has to monitor Seven to stop them from stalking MC. They don’t even know the true Seven, they know an idea of them. Without even knowing Seven or MC, they already decided MC was at fault. It’s one thing for a friend to think this way, but upon meeting Seven? You don’t even know them yet you just believe it was a one-sided event, with one person (MC) at fault? How Seven and SV met feels...wrong. There’s disconcerting parallel between the Band and SV trying to control their singers and I don’t think I’ve seen anyone talking about this. I’ve only ever seen posts about the Band being controlling. The game purposefully portrays SV as some beacon of hope and I'm going to assume the illusion will break eventually (or at least I hope so). It at times feels like they're all strangers. At least with the Band you know they all are familiar with one another regardless of any turmoil (for an example, I cannot think of any members of the band forcing MC to drink or party when they do not want to whereas with SV...that has happened. Avina forced Seven to drink alcohol even though Seven is strictly against drinking.) Until I know this is all on purpose, I'm disappointed. Thankfully, I know now she doesn't even post much on tumblr and that was where most of my issues were. I'll ignore it and just let the POVs and game dictate how I feel.

People may assume I’m being a bit too dramatic and that’s fair but if I were to read someone’s diary and found out they were talking about anyone like Avina talks about controlling Seven, I’d recommend therapy (as well as the rest of the cast). That’s not an insult btw.

 

[szin9]

Hey everyone! I’m not sure if this is the right place to share this opinion, but if there’s a more suitable spot, I’d be happy to know.

Anyway, about UNSUPERVISED, there are a lot of things in the between the lines of the story. I don’t know if you’ve had the same feeling, but I definitely did. Nora Sblaza might have a much bigger role. For example, I’ve been wondering if Rattlebag and Thaumaturge are directly connected to her. And this might be a bit shocking, but I’ve been seriously reflecting on whether, in the route where we choose a female vigilante as MC’s mentor, it might actually be a more mature, older version of Nora herself — someone from the future. I can’t say exactly why, but it seems like the story could explore this more down the line.

There are small similarities between young Nora and the Vigilante Mentor — the way the Mentor is, her demeanor. She’s dark, serious, straight to the point, and she even mentions that she dove into the darker side of life because of what happened with her family. Young Nora seems to have gone through something similar — her family was murdered, and she’s left with intense feelings of revenge. She distances herself even further from her group of friends and later adopts a “dark” lifestyle, like a mercenary. Young Nora also has a somewhat dark personality herself — serious, direct, no-nonsense.

In a later chapter, it’s revealed that MC’s mentor had a wife and a child — and it seems something happened to them (I don’t remember if the story switches from “wife” to “husband,” but I’ve seen it many times, and it’s always “wife”). During the scene where Rattlebag and MC talk, there’s a moment where MC could say that the orphanage where they spent their childhood wouldn’t allow Rattlebag to adopt a child, and Rattlebag’s reaction hits him — as if that’s a sensitive topic for him. He says he’d be a better father than his own dad. That made me think about the mentor’s child — the way that subject was presented, especially since the mentor shows a photo of herself with her family, along with other pictures of people with the caption “those we failed.” It really seems like something happened to her wife and child — maybe. That’s why MC’s comment hits Rattlebag so hard. But how? It wasn’t Nora standing there — it was some thin, old man, as the game describes. But what if Nora somehow disguised herself? Like, some kind of disguise? Why would she do that? Could it be an attempt to persuade MC to join her plans involving the Adversary?

Plus, Rattlebag mentions that he knows about Blair, MC’s childhood friend. He even admits he knows a lot about MC, as if he’s familiar with them on a very personal level. Now, about Thaumaturge — I think Nora might have disguised herself as him too. Even though MC can’t clearly see Thaumaturge's face, there are hints that he’s a short person — just like Nora. Also, Nora doesn’t seem comfortable with swearing or using harsh words, and during their dialogue, MC might curse, but Thaumaturge clearly disapproves, saying MC is better than that. A specific similarity between Thaumaturge and Nora. Thaumaturge talks about how MC would handle the safety of their loved ones — how far they’d go to save them (which gives off the same vibe as Nora, who might have tried to do something for her family or seek revenge after their death).
Furthermore, both villains’ speeches and actions are very similar to the language used by the Adversary — as if everything is a way to persuade MC to join their cause. But I feel this persuasion effort is even stronger when Nora has romantic interest in MC, making that her main motivation for wanting MC to join her.

And it gets even more bizarre, but I also think that the mentor’s wife might actually be MC herself! When Rattlebag says she would make a good father, I got the feeling he wasn’t just referring to an older Nora as a mother, but that her child could also be MC's child— her wife. Early in the game, MC’s mentor says that it was HER who pulled her out of darkness and gave her a reason to step out of the shadows, giving her hope. An older version of MC, Nora’s wife could have done that for her, which might include convincing her to have a child together. But somehow, Nora failed her child — which explains Rattlebag’s reaction.

Another thing: even if we choose a heroic female mentor, I keep thinking she might actually be the older, more mature version of MC — a hero who’s already grown and ready. That feeling grew stronger when I saw the conversation between young MC and her future self near the end of the story. Since the Omega Responders were on a great mission that led to their disappearance for a while, MC’s older self is also dealing with something similar — something very intense, as you can tell from the dialogue.

Anyway, those are my thoughts based on the route with a female MC, a female mentor, and a romantic route with Nora. I honestly don’t know if Nora could have a romantic interest in a male MC. I didn't try. That’s a pretty wild theory, I know, and I realize there are many gaps and holes, but this is just my late-night rambling after a sleepless night, wandering through my mind.

 

[Hackett Thrail]

Hey everyone! I’m not sure if this is the right place to share this opinion, but if there’s a more suitable spot, I’d be happy to know.

Anyway, about UNSUPERVISED, there are a lot of things in the between the lines of the story. I don’t know if you’ve had the same feeling, but I definitely did. Nora Sblaza might have a much bigger role. For example, I’ve been wondering if Rattlebag and Thaumaturge are directly connected to her. And this might be a bit shocking, but I’ve been seriously reflecting on whether, in the route where we choose a female vigilante as MC’s mentor, it might actually be a more mature, older version of Nora herself — someone from the future. I can’t say exactly why, but it seems like the story could explore this more down the line.

There are small similarities between young Nora and the Vigilante Mentor — the way the Mentor is, her demeanor. She’s dark, serious, straight to the point, and she even mentions that she dove into the darker side of life because of what happened with her family. Young Nora seems to have gone through something similar — her family was murdered, and she’s left with intense feelings of revenge. She distances herself even further from her group of friends and later adopts a “dark” lifestyle, like a mercenary. Young Nora also has a somewhat dark personality herself — serious, direct, no-nonsense.

In a later chapter, it’s revealed that MC’s mentor had a wife and a child — and it seems something happened to them (I don’t remember if the story switches from “wife” to “husband,” but I’ve seen it many times, and it’s always “wife”). During the scene where Rattlebag and MC talk, there’s a moment where MC could say that the orphanage where they spent their childhood wouldn’t allow Rattlebag to adopt a child, and Rattlebag’s reaction hits him — as if that’s a sensitive topic for him. He says he’d be a better father than his own dad. That made me think about the mentor’s child — the way that subject was presented, especially since the mentor shows a photo of herself with her family, along with other pictures of people with the caption “those we failed.” It really seems like something happened to her wife and child — maybe. That’s why MC’s comment hits Rattlebag so hard. But how? It wasn’t Nora standing there — it was some thin, old man, as the game describes. But what if Nora somehow disguised herself? Like, some kind of disguise? Why would she do that? Could it be an attempt to persuade MC to join her plans involving the Adversary?

Plus, Rattlebag mentions that he knows about Blair, MC’s childhood friend. He even admits he knows a lot about MC, as if he’s familiar with them on a very personal level. Now, about Thaumaturge — I think Nora might have disguised herself as him too. Even though MC can’t clearly see Thaumaturge's face, there are hints that he’s a short person — just like Nora. Also, Nora doesn’t seem comfortable with swearing or using harsh words, and during their dialogue, MC might curse, but Thaumaturge clearly disapproves, saying MC is better than that. A specific similarity between Thaumaturge and Nora. Thaumaturge talks about how MC would handle the safety of their loved ones — how far they’d go to save them (which gives off the same vibe as Nora, who might have tried to do something for her family or seek revenge after their death).
Furthermore, both villains’ speeches and actions are very similar to the language used by the Adversary — as if everything is a way to persuade MC to join their cause. But I feel this persuasion effort is even stronger when Nora has romantic interest in MC, making that her main motivation for wanting MC to join her.

And it gets even more bizarre, but I also think that the mentor’s wife might actually be MC herself! When Rattlebag says she would make a good father, I got the feeling he wasn’t just referring to an older Nora as a mother, but that her child could also be MC's child— her wife. Early in the game, MC’s mentor says that it was HER who pulled her out of darkness and gave her a reason to step out of the shadows, giving her hope. An older version of MC, Nora’s wife could have done that for her, which might include convincing her to have a child together. But somehow, Nora failed her child — which explains Rattlebag’s reaction.

Another thing: even if we choose a heroic female mentor, I keep thinking she might actually be the older, more mature version of MC — a hero who’s already grown and ready. That feeling grew stronger when I saw the conversation between young MC and her future self near the end of the story. Since the Omega Responders were on a great mission that led to their disappearance for a while, MC’s older self is also dealing with something similar — something very intense, as you can tell from the dialogue.

Anyway, those are my thoughts based on the route with a female MC, a female mentor, and a romantic route with Nora. I honestly don’t know if Nora could have a romantic interest in a male MC. I didn't try. That’s a pretty wild theory, I know, and I realize there are many gaps and holes, but this is just my late-night rambling after a sleepless night, wandering through my mind.

I might be way out of touch with people but there is no-way this is legit and isn't just some elaborate trolling...

 

[szin9]

Believe me, neither do I... but my cousin begged me to post this, a way to embarrass me in public It's his theory

 

[bosslady]

What do you guys think of short demos? Aka demos with only character customisation (if that) and then lots of pages with nothing to do but click through them. Personally, I don't like them. I get being excited of sharing your work, but there isn't a lot to do? Just read about some wordbuilding or maybe read how those characters interact with each other - and bam before you know it you're at the end.
Though I don't mind if a prologue or whathaveyou is split in more parts as long as they're reasonable and not just... a few sentences for each update.

 

[Parallax]

Even the game itself shows us that the MC is talented and gorgeous. Some people will continue to believe that the MC is the worst.

I remember it differently? Unless you are referring to some later chapters (I didn't read any further). The beginning really doesn't show it.

We're a band that hasn't achieved anything even though we've been around for years, and this competition is their first big success... Except that it's not really a success. They only won because some other celebrity (I forgot their name) decided they should win. The audience isn't interested in our music at all! What kind of SUCCESS is that, and how does it prove they're talented if they couldn't even win fairly??? Gorgeous maybe, but talented? What a joke.

Apparently we're to play the role of a pathetic loser who tries to win back the heart of the true star of this story, Seven.

 

[mis07]

I remember it differently? Unless you are referring to some later chapters (I didn't read any further). The beginning really doesn't show it.

We're a band that hasn't achieved anything even though we've been around for years, and this competition is their first big success... Except that it's not really a success. They only won because some other celebrity (I forgot their name) decided they should win. The audience isn't interested in our music at all! What kind of SUCCESS is that, and how does it prove they're talented if they couldn't even win fairly??? Gorgeous maybe, but talented? What a joke.

Apparently we're to play the role of a pathetic loser who tries to win back the heart of the true star of this story, Seven.

The only way I can enjoy this part of Infamous is if this one theory I once read about is correct. It involved something about MC's band being accepted into the record label hosting BOTB but something occurred for it not to happen yet. Sadly, it only sounded like a good theory in the first half.


Also, according to their POVs, G did not cheat. MC's band won the contest naturally. That's why it is so weird that they're viewed by both the staff and audience as lesser than the other bands, always being doubted. Are the people and judges who voted for them silent fans??? I'm not asking for a perfect MC who is constantly praised but it really does seem like outside of when another group messes something up, MC's band is objectively viewed as the weakest band. And I'd love to know how BOTB's voting system works. If MC's band won against all those other bands in the prologue, including Blake's band that is very popular compared to the rest of the cast, how did they rank so low compared to the rest of the cast? The game wants to both prove MC is the worst and the best depending on how the story is currently going. Are the judges being purposefully incompetent?


Speaking of music, since that is what most of Infamous is about, it seems the author does not actually know much of music outside of pop and pop punk. There were several times as I read where I was confused as to what the author was even referring to. The instance I can remember the most is that one song Seven's band performed. Their song, because it suddenly sounded a bit harsher than their usual stuff, was referred to as a "metal" song. I didn't know what to think.

 

[Zoklitsos]

The only way I can enjoy this part of Infamous is if this one theory I once read about is correct. It involved something about MC's band being accepted into the record label hosting BOTB but something occurred for it not to happen yet. Sadly, it only sounded like a good theory in the first half.

Can you elaborate on this theory? I'd be curious to hear it The only prominent one I remember seeing going around back when the latest chapter dropped was the theory that Seven was the one that got contacted by that one major record label the band was auditioning for (the same one G is signed to or sth) to let them know the label wanted to sign the band. But since Seven had already been kicked out by then (or was about to be voted out?? I'm kinda confused by the timeline but IIRC they got voted off after that audition ), they didn’t tell the MC or the rest of the band, or maybe even declined the offer entirely. That supposedly explains why the label “ghosted” them afterwards and some of Seven’s behaviour in general. I think people mostly came up with that theory because the last chapter really emphasized how weird it was that the label just ghosted instead of sending a formal rejection. I thought it was a pretty interesting idea at the time, but the more I've thought about it, the less plausible it feels. I can maaybe see a really pissed-off Seven doing that, but in the present timeline they’d probably be acting a lot guiltier if that were true lol. Is this the theory you meant?

Also, according to their POVs, G did not cheat. MC's band won the contest naturally. That's why it is so weird that they're viewed by both the staff and audience as lesser than the other bands, always being doubted. Are the people and judges who voted for them silent fans??? I'm not asking for a perfect MC who is constantly praised but it really does seem like outside of when another group messes something up, MC's band is objectively viewed as the weakest band. And I'd love to know how BOTB's voting system works. If MC's band won against all those other bands in the prologue, including Blake's band that is very popular compared to the rest of the cast, how did they rank so low compared to the rest of the cast? The game wants to both prove MC is the worst and the best depending on how the story is currently going. Are the judges being purposefully incompetent?

Tbh this is exactly why I stopped reading the Patreon bonus content and especially the POVs, for the most part. Some of them were interesting at first for sure and did provide intreresting insight into Seven, G and Blake in particular, but there are just so many now, there's an overload of them imo lol. And I feel like a lot of them kinda contradict what’s actually written in the main story or don’t line up with the established characterization?? That’s also why I stopped following Amy on Tumblr lmao, she yaps wayyy too much about her some stuff there and ends up contradicting her own writing half the time

About the G thing, I’m also really confused. I haven't read any Infamous Patreon content in probs like half a year at this point so I'm not in the loop with the info from the POVs and all that. I didn't know that it's mentioned in their POV that they didn't cheat, but this just makes me more confused. Bc like they’re clearly acting guilty about something, especially with that one loaded convo you can have with them in the beginning (actually I think it's the MC and G's first interaction in private even) where they said sth like "I’m trying to figure out if I’m an *******" or whatever it was. The most obvious assumption would be that they cheated the MC’s band into the competition somehow, but maybe that’s just a red herring and there’s something else going on that they feel guilty about in relation to the MC?? No idea what it could be tho lol

Speaking of music, since that is what most of Infamous is about, it seems the author does not actually know much of music outside of pop and pop punk. There were several times as I read where I was confused as to what the author was even referring to. The instance I can remember the most is that one song Seven's band performed. Their song, because it suddenly sounded a bit harsher than their usual stuff, was referred to as a "metal" song. I didn't know what to think.

Omg i’m actually so glad someone mentioned this because I’ve literally never seen anyone talk about it before and I thought I was crazy for noticing that!! I thought I was just being nitpicky lol (which, to be fair, I do tend to be ), and that I was just focusing way too much on minor flaws or seeing problems that aren't there due to me growing increasingly annoyed with some aspects of the story and writing. But yeah I completely agree. As a lifelong metalhead, I was really confused by that same moment you mentioned. Like, that’s… not how metal works?? Idk maybe it was just a badly written description and the song is in fact intended to be more of a metal one?? But idk I remember at some point thinking that there were some weird things and descriptions with Blake’s band too, weren’t they supposed to be metal as well? Tbh I’m not even sure if that’s still the case any more since if I'm not mistaken, there were some minor changes to Blake in the rewrite so I have no clue if that's still their canon genre and I'm too lazy to check. But either way, the way music is described just doesn’t really line up with how those genres actually sound a lot of the times imo, except with the pop, punk or pop-punk bands as you said. Objectively speaking it's not that big of a deal compared to the game's other flaws, but it's just a big personal pet peeve of mine for sure

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

What do you guys think of short demos? Aka demos with only character customisation (if that) and then lots of pages with nothing to do but click through them. Personally, I don't like them. I get being excited of sharing your work, but there isn't a lot to do? Just read about some wordbuilding or maybe read how those characters interact with each other - and bam before you know it you're at the end.
Though I don't mind if a prologue or whathaveyou is split in more parts as long as they're reasonable and not just... a few sentences for each update.

Those are the ones that get abandoned the fastest, so I usually don't mind. It shows that the creator doesn't care about the work anyway.

 

[mis07]

Can you elaborate on this theory? I'd be curious to hear it The only prominent one I remember seeing going around back when the latest chapter dropped was the theory that Seven was the one that got contacted by that one major record label the band was auditioning for (the same one G is signed to or sth) to let them know the label wanted to sign the band. But since Seven had already been kicked out by then (or was about to be voted out?? I'm kinda confused by the timeline but IIRC they got voted off after that audition ), they didn’t tell the MC or the rest of the band, or maybe even declined the offer entirely. That supposedly explains why the label “ghosted” them afterwards and some of Seven’s behaviour in general. I think people mostly came up with that theory because the last chapter really emphasized how weird it was that the label just ghosted instead of sending a formal rejection. I thought it was a pretty interesting idea at the time, but the more I've thought about it, the less plausible it feels. I can maaybe see a really pissed-off Seven doing that, but in the present timeline they’d probably be acting a lot guiltier if that were true lol. Is this the theory you meant?



Tbh this is exactly why I stopped reading the Patreon bonus content and especially the POVs, for the most part. Some of them were interesting at first for sure and did provide intreresting insight into Seven, G and Blake in particular, but there are just so many now, there's an overload of them imo lol. And I feel like a lot of them kinda contradict what’s actually written in the main story or don’t line up with the established characterization?? That’s also why I stopped following Amy on Tumblr lmao, she yaps wayyy too much about her some stuff there and ends up contradicting her own writing half the time

About the G thing, I’m also really confused. I haven't read any Infamous Patreon content in probs like half a year at this point so I'm not in the loop with the info from the POVs and all that. I didn't know that it's mentioned in their POV that they didn't cheat, but this just makes me more confused. Bc like they’re clearly acting guilty about something, especially with that one loaded convo you can have with them in the beginning (actually I think it's the MC and G's first interaction in private even) where they said sth like "I’m trying to figure out if I’m an *******" or whatever it was. The most obvious assumption would be that they cheated the MC’s band into the competition somehow, but maybe that’s just a red herring and there’s something else going on that they feel guilty about in relation to the MC?? No idea what it could be tho lol



Omg i’m actually so glad someone mentioned this because I’ve literally never seen anyone talk about it before and I thought I was crazy for noticing that!! I thought I was just being nitpicky lol (which, to be fair, I do tend to be ), and that I was just focusing way too much on minor flaws or seeing problems that aren't there due to me growing increasingly annoyed with some aspects of the story and writing. But yeah I completely agree. As a lifelong metalhead, I was really confused by that same moment you mentioned. Like, that’s… not how metal works?? Idk maybe it was just a badly written description and the song is in fact intended to be more of a metal one?? But idk I remember at some point thinking that there were some weird things and descriptions with Blake’s band too, weren’t they supposed to be metal as well? Tbh I’m not even sure if that’s still the case any more since if I'm not mistaken, there were some minor changes to Blake in the rewrite so I have no clue if that's still their canon genre and I'm too lazy to check. But either way, the way music is described just doesn’t really line up with how those genres actually sound a lot of the times imo, except with the pop, punk or pop-punk bands as you said. Objectively speaking it's not that big of a deal compared to the game's other flaws, but it's just a big personal pet peeve of mine for sure

(I'm on mobile and too tired to fragment your post to make the response easier to read)

But yes, that's the theory I was referring to. At first it sounded extremely likely that Seven would do something that vindictive because they are that petty but the more I thought about it the less believable it is with what we currently know.


The POVs and her Tumblr reveal that MC's band did not cheat and iirc G's first ever POV reveals G didn't help them/ the band didn't cheat. I also remember her Tumblr also confirming this.

Spoiler: If you haven't/don't want to read the POVs, don't read this

The spoiler for people who haven't read the POVs/read too much into the game: G wants MC to replace them/take turns with being the most popular so they can live a somewhat normal life. Despite being a fan of MC, G's intentions are not pure. They want MC's life to be miserable while they lounge somewhere occasionally. This is somehow more understandable than Seven's behavior towards MC. I guess because it's rational?

I'll just have to ignore the music commentary, it's not like it makes me angry. It just makes me confused as to what type of music I'm supposed to imagine in that moment.

Also, Blake's band is metal. I don't remember what Seven's band is supposed to be. I think it's something like alternative/punk. It definitely wasn't metal.

 

[MalloryV]

I remember it differently? Unless you are referring to some later chapters (I didn't read any further). The beginning really doesn't show it.

We're a band that hasn't achieved anything even though we've been around for years, and this competition is their first big success... Except that it's not really a success. They only won because some other celebrity (I forgot their name) decided they should win. The audience isn't interested in our music at all! What kind of SUCCESS is that, and how does it prove they're talented if they couldn't even win fairly??? Gorgeous maybe, but talented? What a joke.

Apparently we're to play the role of a pathetic loser who tries to win back the heart of the true star of this story, Seven.

I'm talking about this because I know many talented artists who don't achieve anything beyond a small local fame, and that's actually... It's a lot because there are some who don't even get that far.

Mc canonically has a beautiful voice, And it's one of the things they's most recognized for. They're well-known enough to have a fanbase. And if I'm not mistaken, they're pretty good looking. Good looking enough to have people like G and Dakota (that was their name?) chasing them.

And until proven otherwise, they won the competition on their own merits.

Obviously you can't start the game on par with G. It's not a power fantasy, it's a game where you participate in a reality competition and you have to win challenges.

Like any contest, they'll have a villain of the season, and drama.

The MC's misfortune is that Blake is more popular than the MC and has a more toxic fanbase to push a hate campaign against the MC, and the contest, which wants to make money, wants to use it.

In fact, if I remember correctly, people like Cory don't really care, the truth doesn't sell.

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

it seems the author does not actually know much of music outside of pop and pop punk

*Pop rock

Less Green Day and more Paramore, especially modern Paramore in terms of vibes. There's very little punk in Infamous.

 

[mis07]

*Pop rock

Less Green Day and more Paramore, especially modern Paramore in terms of vibes. There's very little punk in Infamous.

Yeah you're right. I was mostly thinking of the one band she said has a song IRL that could be of Seven's band. It's a punk band.

 

[cloudyday]

One story that left me disappointed is way walkers, it's been like 12 years and still not done and ends in such a cliffhanger way I regret reading, nowadays I stay away from stories if they are to be more than one book

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

One story that left me disappointed is way walkers, it's been like 12 years and still not done and ends in such a cliffhanger way I regret reading, nowadays I stay away from stories if they are to be more than one book

Way walkers university 3 coming soon. Someday. When was the last update on the thing anyway?

 

[ferrugem]

The POVs and her Tumblr reveal that MC's band did not cheat and iirc G's first ever POV reveals G didn't help them/ the band didn't cheat. I also remember her Tumblr also confirming this.

Spoiler: If you haven't/don't want to read the POVs, don't read this

The spoiler for people who haven't read the POVs/read too much into the game: G wants MC to replace them/take turns with being the most popular so they can live a somewhat normal life. Despite being a fan of MC, G's intentions are not pure. They want MC's life to be miserable while they lounge somewhere occasionally. This is somehow more understandable than Seven's behavior towards MC. I guess because it's rational?

There's nothing in the POVs to confirm that G did or did not cheat. It's open to personal interpretation and theorization at this point. I read all of them and I'm personally convinced that they DID. I also don't know where you got that G wants MC to replace them?? That makes no sense to me. Fame makes G miserable but they also are attached to it for various reasons.

I love Infamous lol I think all of the characters are so complex and interesting, I love reading their POVs and trying to figure out their goals, their secrets, why they're acting the way they're acting. It's like a fun little puzzle. Some of those people are ****ing infuriating (Seven....Avina..... I'm looking at you) and even then, they're characters I love to hate.

I think where people get really frustrated with Amy is that they want answers and conclusions about every character and forget that this is a WIP where you're not supposed to know everything yet. On Tumblr she mostly gives non-answers, says cryptic stuff and makes jokes but that's because unlike the authors who reveal everything about the ROs before even bothering to write it in the game, she wants us to find out while actually playing. Plus, she knows her characters are divisive and embraces all sorts of opposing opinions on them, which may seem contradictory but I see it as her knowing her place as a writer (which is to give readers breathing room, not tell them what to think all the time).

I think there are def valid criticisms of Infamous — That the game is too harsh on MC, that some parts only make sense if MC is a pushover. I still find it enjoyable despite all that tho