Aura Clash: leaks, sneak peaks, memes and discussion thread.

[Diamondhead]

I think the Outer Lands sects are genuinely that trash bro. Like the Sunbringers are mostly jobbers too except for Crow Li and Leona (and the former got mogged by Thunderfaller anyway).

Plus Mao probably puts most if not all of his resources on his son. Jack guzzles on his nepobaby elixirs like they're water.

Mao doesn't,Jack wasn't given any young master treatment same training for him like others only difference is because jack progresses he gets to learn more and more.
In the end Mao was right according to Anon if jack was given all the young master treatment he would be way stronger at the start when he fights mc and would likely win which would actually be a nerf in long run for jack as he wouldn't work as hard and would let his talent carry him so sure he would get to top 5 and even close to his ap he has now but it wouldn't be the same person.Also even if Jack was given all the elxiirs lol and let's say it was after losing to Mc again jack would end up around the same power only 100 ap more at best according to Anon the stage where jack is most of the stuff available wouldn't make a difference.


The others are simply not built for mao style training it has been about 20 years since mao took his position and well he has tried.Bo lo is the only one who has the will to train hard enough but his still is dead average and he needs someone like mc to get him experience.

It really boils down to his training is made for people like Mc,jack and others have talent and strong will

Mao makes plans for all the disciples and tells them to get to this ap in this amount of time like get to 1200+ ap in X amount of time when X amount of time has passes the disciple is only at 600 ap lol.
So it is about his training being made for more talented people and the other part is about him having a hard time adjusting to the weak Area.

 

[Nomenclatura]

Kinda feel bad for Leona who would have been the great talent of Outer West if she had not been born right next to Turbofreak Village

 

[daha]

See, that's the thing right there, no one outside of the MC and Jack has hit 800+AP. In the dragon trial, the girl at the front of the Thunderfall line, trying to flex on you, had an AP of 700+. ATP Bo is the only one I actually respect from that sect, as for Leona, she wouldn't have it any other way. Plus, even without the MC and Jack, she would have to deal with the top 5, and that Sakura fight tells us how that would go. She was screwed from the jump.

 

[Marthur]

I would even say that 6 people in the sect passing the 5,000 post Dragon Trial seems like not a bad number (not a good one either). I don't know how many of the 10,000 are from Sect, Schools or Clans (as in part of organizations that aren't something like the Northern Army or the Steel Thread Alliance) but there should be many hundreds of them that are participating.

Even putting something like 2 or 3 Archons should be an incredible achievement. Like, you can't compare to a behemoth like the Callous Clan (that even then, it would seem only Goro would become an Archon, not even Daichi), but for the rest of the fodder we have seen are not strong enough to stop even a well trained Rin.

 

[wiliam]

Mao doesn't,Jack wasn't given any young master treatment same training for him like others only difference is because jack progresses he gets to learn more and more.
In the end Mao was right according to Anon if jack was given all the young master treatment he would be way stronger at the start when he fights mc and would likely win which would actually be a nerf in long run for jack as he wouldn't work as hard and would let his talent carry him so sure he would get to top 5 and even close to his ap he has now but it wouldn't be the same person.Also even if Jack was given all the elxiirs lol and let's say it was after losing to Mc again jack would end up around the same power only 100 ap more at best according to Anon the stage where jack is most of the stuff available wouldn't make a difference.


The others are simply not built for mao style training it has been about 20 years since mao took his position and well he has tried.Bo lo is the only one who has the will to train hard enough but his still is dead average and he needs someone like mc to get him experience.

It really boils down to his training is made for people like Mc,jack and others have talent and strong will

Mao makes plans for all the disciples and tells them to get to this ap in this amount of time like get to 1200+ ap in X amount of time when tmX amount of time has passed the disciple is still at 600 ap lol.
So it is about his training being made for more talented people and the other part is about him having a hard time adjusting to the weak Area.

In summary (from what I understand)

Mao is a terrible teacher.

 

[justindeed]

See, that's the thing right there, no one outside of the MC and Jack has hit 800+AP

JDF starts mentions your 800 AP start is around the same level as starting outer lands Upper Disciples. So they're really at a medium/strong lower disciple level.

Mao doesn't,Jack wasn't given any young master treatment same training for him like others only difference is because jack progresses he gets to learn more and more.
In the end Mao was right according to Anon if jack was given all the young master treatment he would be way stronger at the start when he fights mc and would likely win which would actually be a nerf in long run for jack as he wouldn't work as hard and would let his talent carry him so sure he would get to top 5 and even close to his ap he has now but it wouldn't be the same person.Also even if Jack was given all the elxiirs lol and let's say it was after losing to Mc again jack would end up around the same power only 100 ap more at best according to Anon the stage where jack is most of the stuff available wouldn't make a difference.


The others are simply not built for mao style training it has been about 20 years since mao took his position and well he has tried.Bo lo is the only one who has the will to train hard enough but his still is dead average and he needs someone like mc to get him experience.

It really boils down to his training is made for people like Mc,jack and others have talent and strong will

Mao makes plans for all the disciples and tells them to get to this ap in this amount of time like get to 1200+ ap in X amount of time when tmX amount of time has passed the disciple is still at 600 ap lol.
So it is about his training being made for more talented people and the other part is about him having a hard time adjusting to the weak Area.

So Jack outpacing the MC is just pure talent? I always thought it was his privileged background getting him ahead in terms of Soul Treasures, advancement elixirs, spiritfruits, etc.

Seems like Mao is a pretty crap teacher if he expects everyone to have the same willpower and talent.

 

[Diamondhead]

In summary (from what I understand)

Mao is a terrible teacher.

For the average yeah the sect without him or without mc and jack is dead average it is strong because of these 3 and we do have some above average upper disciple but lower disciples meh.

It is not like he gatekeeps his knowledge either upper disciples who shouldn't be anywhere near learning a tech like thunderfall get to learn from him lol.

So for the average he is dead average the difference is some other sects are cycling shards and what not to bolster their strength Mao doesn't allow that because it is a crutch so in long run his bum disciples are better off than some of the others.

If he allowed cycling shards everyone would be 200-300 ap above sect would look way stronger but those people would still not make it to archonate so yeah no reason to allow them to cycle shards as for most there is life after trials and they shouldn't be doing this.

 

[justindeed]

but for the rest of the fodder we have seen are not strong enough to stop even a well trained Rin.

My Jin easily 800+ AP in the prison break sequence. And given I gave Rin nearly the same attention she should be able to as well.

Strange to think the twins can now be considered top talent in Thunderfall.

 

[daha]

It's not that only 6 are left, it's who are in the 6 that are left. The twins straight up can't fight. Jin states that all his cores, barring his agility ones, are trash. Rin...come on, man. Bo is actually respectable if his performance in the demonic gate is anything to go by, and we know he will give anything for the win. Big Zhu had to pump himself full of elixirs to finish the very second trial. Hell, the twins don't even have a style yet, and depending on how you play, only Jin has an element, or none of them do. Plus, the twins were trapped and abused, messing up their development.

JDF starts mentions your 800 AP

This is a cheat tbf, I am more talking about a normal MC, he can achieve 3k AP and no one else can hit 800 its kinda embarrassing. Guiren has over 1k, and he didn't even know multiple foundations exist, and he can't even use his style correctly. It's just a bad look all around for the sect.

 

[daha]

So Jack outpacing the MC is just pure talent?

No, this is his journal entry.

"Crusher Jack is your enemy. There's no other way to put it. The tall and powerfully-built Human man is the only son of Crusher Mao and that status has given him the head start to win. From birth Jack has been given ample training and Path Manuals, but they weren't enough to save him in your first fight.

Since then, things have gotten worse. As it turned out, Crusher Mao saved any shortcuts to power until Jack reached maturity naturally. He's spent the last years being showered in Advancement Elixirs, spirit fruits, Technique manuals, and forbidden trainings.

If rumors are to be believed, Crusher Jack has been carving a path through Outer West on his path to Nanhou. Not only Lower Disciples but Upper Disciples as well have fallen to his challenges to duels, building up his fame and following.

He threw the gauntlet at you throughout your childhood and you answered in kind, but you haven't fought him since he disappeared to Mountain Hazard for special training. There's not a chance in Hell that he's not preparing something for your reunion in Nanhou."

So Mao did help him out, to what extent idk but he had help.

 

[Diamondhead]

My Jin easily 800+ AP in the prison break sequence. And given I gave Rin nearly the same attention she should be able to as well.

Strange to think the twins can now be considered top talent in Thunderfall.

If you read my other comment you would know why .first of Jin's best narration is 700 ap so any ap we see is just fluff past it and the other part is they were allowed to cycle you can subtract almost 300 ap from twins lol.All the warriors in the sect get aura Via just training.

So yeah some sects do it some don't it makes you look stronger early but later it is the same thing if anything you will find it hard now that you can't just cycle through stuff and again even if you had all the money too much cycling and even elixirs can cause death.

 

[justindeed]

This is a cheat tbf, I am more talking about a normal MC, he can achieve 3k AP and no one else can hit 800 its kinda embarrassing. Guiren has over 1k, and he didn't even know multiple foundations exist, and he can't even use his style correctly. It's just a bad look all around for the sect

No, you misunderstand. I'm saying 800 AP is their estimate of the lowest power an Upper Disciple could have. And most of the sect can't even clear that.

If anything MC and Jack are ginormous freaks lol. Even Misuka jokes about it at one point

 

[Diamondhead]

No, this is his journal entry.

"Crusher Jack is your enemy. There's no other way to put it. The tall and powerfully-built Human man is the only son of Crusher Mao and that status has given him the head start to win. From birth Jack has been given ample training and Path Manuals, but they weren't enough to save him in your first fight.

Since then, things have gotten worse. As it turned out, Crusher Mao saved any shortcuts to power until Jack reached maturity naturally. He's spent the last years being showered in Advancement Elixirs, spirit fruits, Technique manuals, and forbidden trainings.

If rumors are to be believed, Crusher Jack has been carving a path through Outer West on his path to Nanhou. Not only Lower Disciples but Upper Disciples as well have fallen to his challenges to duels, building up his fame and following.

He threw the gauntlet at you throughout your childhood and you answered in kind, but you haven't fought him since he disappeared to Mountain Hazard for special training. There's not a chance in Hell that he's not preparing something for your reunion in Nanhou."

So Mao did help him out, to what extent idk but he had help.

Gang do you expect jin to be truthful lmaoo
He hates jack lol anon has direct statment of jack getting no special treatment
This is the same as Jin calling himself a talent that has surpassed other disciples while 200-300 of it is cycling.
Journal entries of people is what the person think about others it isn't supposed to even be factual.

 

[justindeed]

Gang do you expect jin to be truthful lmaoo
He hates jack lol anon has direct statment of jack getting no special treatment
This is the same as Jin calling himself a talent that has surpassed other disciples while 200-30 of it is cycling.

That's the MC's journal entry after leaving the village though? I recall the wording.

If you read my other comment you would know why .first of Jin's best narration is 700 ap so any ap we see is just fluff past it and the other part is they were allowed to cycle you can subtract almost 300 ap from twins lol.All the warriors in the sect get aura Via just training.

So yeah some sects do it some don't it makes you look stronger early but later it is the same thing if anything you will find it hard now that you can't just cycle through stuff and again even if you had all the money too much cycling and even elixirs can cause death.

I don't get this cycling thing. Doesn't high handseals MC do the same for Immortal Core Advancement? Or are you talking about something else?

 

[Marthur]

If you read my other comment you would know why .first of Jin's best narration is 700 ap so any ap we see is just fluff past it and the other part is they were allowed to cycle you can subtract almost 300 ap from twins lol.All the warriors in the sect get aura Via just training.

So yeah some sects do it some don't it makes you look stronger early but later it is the same thing if anything you will find it hard now that you can't just cycle through stuff and again even if you had all the money too much cycling and even elixirs can cause death.

Technically speaking the highest narration one is in the Bo Lo Journal entry with 900 AP. Yeah, still can it still is fluff but it still is acknowledged by some narrative element.

It's not that only 6 are left, it's who are in the 6 that are left. The twins straight up can't fight. Jin states that all his cores, barring his agility ones, are trash. Rin...come on, man. Bo is actually respectable if his performance in the demonic gate is anything to go by, and we know he will give anything for the win. Big Zhu had to pump himself full of elixirs to finish the very second trial. Hell, the twins don't even have a style yet, and depending on how you play, only Jin has an element, or none of them do. Plus, the twins were trapped and abused, messing up their development.


This is a cheat tbf, I am more talking about a normal MC, he can achieve 3k AP and no one else can hit 800 its kinda embarrassing. Guiren has over 1k, and he didn't even know multiple foundations exist, and he can't even use his style correctly. It's just a bad look all around for the sect.

The twins are carried by MC, so yes, it's not only their strenght but so are people like Goro and Sakura.

Speaking of their results if I am not wrong the highest amount of points by the end of the Stallion Trial that Rin can get is 28 (Tiger 4, Rabbit 5, Dragon 5, Snake 6, Stallion 8), I don't know where that would put her but at the very least I feel it is a top 1,000.

 

[Natural Stupidity]

only Jin has an element, or none of them do.

You can get two memorywell elixir though. One from that shop the other from Desdemona's quest.(Yeah I give up a 2200 AP soul treasure)

Guiren has over 1k, and he didn't even know multiple foundations exist, and he can't even use his style correctly

Isn't he also the same guy who says "Why didn't you tell me you were a Yin specialist?".....To a Cursed style user when he himself is also one. Can't believe our mc doesn't make fun of that.

 

[daha]

Gang do you expect jin to be truthful lmaoo

Wait, Jin isn't the one writing the journal entries, and if he is, what the hell is Kosuke telling our brother? But even if that statement isn't true, he did get access to better training via Mao sending him to Fang's sect. Jack himself said he took full advantage of it, while the MC is basically self-taught with some help.

No, you misunderstand. I'm saying 800 AP is their estimate of the lowest power an Upper Disciple could have. And most of the sect can't even clear that.

Okay, this is actually fair, but even then. Diamonhead said that the best narration for Jin is him having 700 AP. There is no excuse for him and Rin outclassing 90% of the sect. Especially given how far behind they start, Rin doesn't even want to try.

 

[Marthur]

Wait, Jin isn't the one writing the journal entries, and if he is, what the hell is Kosuke telling our brother? But even if that statement isn't true, he did get access to better training via Mao sending him to Fang's sect. Jack himself said he took full advantage of it, while the MC is basically self-taught with some help.



Okay, this is actually fair, but even then. Diamonhead said that the best narration for Jin is him having 700 AP. There is no excuse for him and Rin outclassing 90% of the sect. Especially given how far behind they start, Rin doesn't even want to try.

The opportunity of going to Mountain Hazard was for the Star Pupil of Thunderfall, it wasn't preference for him he already was the best in the sect like Fang was the other way around.

 

[daha]

You can get two memorywell elixir though. One from that shop the other from Desdemona's quest.(Yeah I give up a 2200 AP soul treasure)



Isn't he also the same guy who says "Why didn't you tell me you were a Yin specialist?".....To a Cursed style user when he himself is also one. Can't believe our mc doesn't make fun of that.

I usually cheat my way into getting enough; I am not giving up on the soul treasure. As for the statement Guiren made, I chalk it up to the MC just being happy he finally helped and just letting it go since he spent the rest of the fight getting his *** kicked.

 

[Nomenclatura]

Considering the fact that Jin can stay on the trials while the rest fail out he is, as Rin is, objectively a talent that surpassed the others. The disciples not cycling shards is all well and good but at the end they failed out and are weaker than Jin and Rin.

Also from a Doylist perspective I don't see the point adding a 900 nareative check and a 1000 stat check for them to mean nothing because apparently no matter what you do they are both retarded cripples.