If you play tale of immortal you can be 2 realms above nascent soul and you need a giant to destroy mountain it is just how it goes.
Even if we high ball the hell out of poma it would be multiple hill level at best.
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Even if we high ball the hell out of poma it would be multiple hill level at best.
AC is so strong because it got the power of God and Anime on its side.
Even if we take everything here and high ball it we are only getting multiple hills.
Afterall a forest and plain area is way easier to destroy hell even if straight up wank poma it would never come close to mountain level and everyone lack the DC for a City level attack in Poma.
Just like other xianxia till they reach Immortal stage they are all meh for how old they are.
They gap between a city buster and a hill buster is way way bigger than we think all the powescaling makes it sound it isn't much and the gap between a normal city and a normal Mountain is once again even more of a gap.
I'm not wanking DC at all cause for me it's a extremely poor metric for Powerscaling. I'm just showing how inconsistent Nicky is really and the Physical Prowess/AP from PoMA is indeed good.
Of course, if a character can produce 10 megatons of energy in a attack with a size of, for example, 100 meters I'll not be stupid and call it City level, because "City Level" is a metric of destruction while the 10 Megaton is a metric of energy/AP.
So, for example, while current Ruo and Wu Heir(Between PH—EX) are "only" city block in DC by feats, their physical prowess is way higher. Probably near Hypersonic speed(Since Early PH stats already surpass Mach speed as shown by Fang Yuan) and with enough strength to cause a localised earthquake(Or using the hill metric parameter for a EX).
Yup and that is why mountains usually are pretty nice check as we already have real life scaling for how hard it is destroy one compared to City and yeah poma just isn't there nor is most of xianxia till they reach higher scale even past NS.
Even this attack as great as it is still was kept in the by the protection put on by the sect so really it is great feat for Wu heir's power but it isn't all that it all boils down to where xianxia as a whole scales to till they reach a certain level of power.
Speed wise mind you niki said even Shangtian are only hyper sonic and keeps it vague there.
No one in poma has Mountain level AP.
Also I don't consider DC bad for scaling because you need both to really be great otherwise it looks only stupid sure one can have Extremely high focused ap but it also should mean they have great dc and sure it can be lower than their AP.
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That reminds me Poma people cannot really do what people in db or Ac do or so many other media does you know that their controlled attacks don't ruin the entire planet Thing because they can focus it all on their opponent and the opponent body absorbs most of the impact so 2 things
In poma according to niki shangtians cannot even do that whatever that means makes it even hard to judge poma like they have no real control.
To be honest I think the original wukong will be embarrassed by how weak this version of himself is
Original Wukong has no real cosmology help tho and has vagueposting all over.
Apart from immortality you can't even call it planetary even at the end of journey to the west.
All the Wukong being strong came from later media which have huge comsologies making him look strong.
If anything this one is the closest to the real one
Also monkey god more like monkey fraud exists in poma that dude is the real bum who is clearly based on Wukong and isn't even hill level kek.
If so this is either another inconsistency or got retconned. Just see. A weak PH is already at SuperSonic range as shown by Fang Yuan.
Casual, base Wu Heir can perception blitz him(if you choose to test his prowess).
This same Wu Heir, all-out and full powered can't even react to the Heavenly-Ice-Wisp that is, naturally, a Xiantian Level creature but was being massively weakened at the moment.
Doesn't makes sense at all.
Isn't like it's bad, but between all main three(Physical Prowess, AP & DC), it's the least constructive to show how good really is a character fight Prowess.
Also this is very doubtful. Cause, as I said, a EX level thing is already enough to vaporise a whole forest/jungle. Even a small sized jungle(1km²) would require already more than 10 Kilotons of energy.
Same thing for current Ruo's Blade sacrifice, or 100 pellets(50 of them are at best a Pseudo Xiantian killer) being able to destroy a "3 miles range area" as said in the Haoran event.
Just a panty stealing pervert worst master in the game apart from Rin, why the hell are all the Rins bums in these cultivation games?
Just adding here, from the discord:
(As confirmed by Niki himself) Shangtian>>>>>>>>>>PX>>>>>LX>>>>MX>>>EX>>>>>PH>>LH>MH>EH>>Mortal
To be honest I was interested on him ( monkey god) but I just play poma now because of the story I want to know what will happen in the end but anyway I could see AC be universal level or at the best multiverse level of course at the end of book 5 something like dragon ball
The only thing I agree here is with speed feat anything else no one is poma has a tsar bomb or even lets say anywhere near what we need to destroy smaller mountains.
Even a normal Mountain's Summit would be taken off by a nuke and then it will collapse.
Calcs you are doing are good but they wouldn't matter at all when there already is an upper limit the fact that you are able to do calcs is because this feat is possible in the book.
Like we need about 750 kilotons to do have a shot at leveling a smaller mountain and it still isn't a sure deal.
So ,the gap is big enough imo to all of it to work the real issue is speed one tho for that I wholly agree.
We know how stupid durable the average Mountains get that it is generally agreed you need tsar bomb to level one while the bigger ones would need over 100s if tsar bombs in hopeful estimations and for Everest we had the 550+ tsar bombs detonating at once to have some shot and these are the hopeful estimates while some believe even thousands would do nothing.
All the estimations are always hopeful ones that is why I am fine with the scale for Ap but speed yeah that is too close for all that Talk about the difference lol.
All the estimations are always hopeful ones that is why I am fine with the scale for Ap but speed yeah that is too close for all that Talk about the difference lol.
Sure. Anyway, mind you:
Each one ">" is a 10 times difference by the way. At least physically as Nicky explained about the Houtian level stats in the Discord.
So yes, he can be extremely inconsistent sometimes to what regards Powerscaling.
I'll mainly keep reading the book to determine the characters battle prowess.
I mean then he needs a lesson lol but yeah the books itself isn't giving a mountain feat anyway.
But yeah if he actually practices his own 10 times crap they should be a small Mountain lol they still wouldn't be average mountain ap but yeah I agree in general with you about the inconsistency so a small Mountain level poma would make sense if we take the 10 times scaling of his.
All in all the 10 times stuff is something we can even ignore clearly your calcs and his own scaling that says where they fall is way better measure anyways because if we take your calcs and still measure where he says poma caps it can make sense while still saying there is night and day difference between each and every stage.But each">"this being 10 times tho lmfaooo bro this makes me cry of laughter what was my blud thinking.
Highly depends of the type of destruction we are talking about too. For fragmentation or fundamental collapse it's roughly 100+ Megatons("City level" AP, basically). Now for Pulverisation/Vaporisation things indeed get crazy.
Ruo's Blade sacrifice, for example, assuming it can vaporise rock and keeping the said metrics in the book. It's a attack with 30 meters range.
So even though her DC wouldn't stretch the Mount Everest size, her AP/Energy Output is already on the Kilotons range("Town level"), meanwhile her AP, as I said before, is City Block at best.