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DEMONKINGAK

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A lion killing a deer is not sinful.

A human killing without cause is punishable—why? Because only humans have moral system which were designed by other humans.
 

DEMONKINGAK

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so you have become so advance that now you will talk nonsense that there is no father before our birth ? because it is lacks explanatory power from rational lens ? huh?

than i may ask you how do we recognzie an ordinary biological father ? huh? and do not repeat that broken DNA fallacy, for that is already gone and finished by entire hand or legs transplantation.

and under no circumtenses you can say that there is no father before our birth. so how do we recognize him ? huh? and also tell me that why should i listen to any random child like you ?
Dude before you were born there was no you and hence that ordinary biological father was not even a father at that point. So how can you recognise him.
 

jhanjha

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Dude not being rude but what is your obsession with this ( now tell me how do we recognize an ordinary bioligcal father even ?) it's like u have a feud with dna test ,lost any cases in court . Again not being rude just asking?
so educate yourself first of all, that DNA exists in hair, saliva, skin, bone marrow, blood group, tissues, everything that exists in entire hand or legs, and doctors ( doctors ) are transplanting entire such hand or legs after matching both subtle ( like bone marrow, blood group, tissues etc ) and gross materials ( like hand or legs size, gender, skin color, skin tone, age upto everything ) all things are matched by doctors and than it is being transplanted and that also from those who are neither parents nor relatives.

so here goes DNA nonsense, now you tell me how do we recognize an ordinary biological father even ? you are simply talking big big things, while you are empty inside.
 

jhanjha

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A lion killing a deer is not sinful.

A human killing without cause is punishable—why? Because only humans have moral system which were designed by other humans.
so child is not interested for education. But it is the duty of the father to make him educated, sometimes father punish him. So a child may be foolish, but how the parents can be foolish?”

what is your answer ??
 

DEMONKINGAK

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And in india many religious text contradict each other like

Who Created the Universe?

Rig Veda : Speaks with uncertainty—"Who really knows? Perhaps even the creator does not know."

Viṣṇu Purāṇa : Say Lord Viṣṇu is the original creator, through Brahmā.

Śiva Purāṇa : Emphasize Lord Śiva as the origin.

Devi Bhāgavata Purāṇa: Claims the Divine Mother (Devī) is the ultimate source.
 

jhanjha

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Dude before you were born there was no you and hence that ordinary biological father was not even a father at that point. So how can you recognise him.
We are not talking of the fools and rascals who are theorizing without any knowledge. We are concerned with the authorities. just like our mothers knew who tilled them before our birth and has seen our biological fathers before our birth.

similarly i do follow bona fide recognzied agent of Lord Krishna such as Srila Prabhupada. finished.
 

jhanjha

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And in india many religious text contradict each other like

Who Created the Universe?

Rig Veda : Speaks with uncertainty—"Who really knows? Perhaps even the creator does not know."

Viṣṇu Purāṇa : Say Lord Viṣṇu is the original creator, through Brahmā.

Śiva Purāṇa : Emphasize Lord Śiva as the origin.

Devi Bhāgavata Purāṇa: Claims the Divine Mother (Devī) is the ultimate source.
but you dont run away from the question how do we recognize an ordinary biological father ? huh? how do we recognize ? why are you talking nonsense ? and why dont you answre simply questin ? huh?
 

DEMONKINGAK

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so child is not interested for education. But it is the duty of the father to make him educated, sometimes father punish him. So a child may be foolish, but how the parents can be foolish?”

what is your answer ??
morality is only made by humans:

It would change wildly with time and opinion (which it does to some extent).

But we’d have no ultimate standard—no reason to say something is universally right or wrong (e.g., murder, abuse, lying).
 

jhanjha

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morality is only made by humans:

It would change wildly with time and opinion (which it does to some extent).

But we’d have no ultimate standard—no reason to say something is universally right or wrong (e.g., murder, abuse, lying).
now just tell me how those parents are foolish who wants to educate their kids ? and that child is intelligent who is talking nonsense that morals can be changes according to his whims ?
 

jhanjha

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Dude are you that ordinary biological father ? You are stuck at the same question . Again not being rude
dont change the topic, you spoken

but it lacks explanatory power from a rationalist lens.
so have you become so much advance in this pseudo science now ? that you will deny the existence of father ? huh? is that you came from the sky into the womb of your mother ? if not than what made you saying such things ? and you are not advance even in recognizing an ordinary biological father even, and you are denying = "What is God? There is no God. Everything is science," although you cannot explain science. you cannot do anything; simply talking like nonsense.
 

DEMONKINGAK

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now just tell me how those parents are foolish who wants to educate their kids ? and that child is intelligent who is talking nonsense that morals can be changes according to his whims ?
No his wimp but society just like sati
Rig Veda : Mentions a widow lying beside her husband's corpse, but the verse actually instructs her to return to life, not die.


Later Smṛti texts have verses that glorify Sati as an act of ultimate devotion.
So was god telling us to kill there wife if husband dies
 

DEMONKINGAK

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dont change the topic, you spoken


so have you become so much advance in this pseudo science now ? that you will deny the existence of father ? huh? is that you came from the sky into the womb of your mother ? if not than what made you saying such things ? and you are not advance even in recognizing an ordinary biological father even, and you are denying = "What is God? There is no God. Everything is science," although you cannot explain science. you cannot do anything; simply talking like nonsense.
Denying the existence of a father, either biological or spiritual, is not scientific, it's ignorance. True science does not claim that something comes from nothing without cause. In fact, every scientific law points to cause and effect.
 

jhanjha

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No his wimp but society just like sati
Rig Veda : Mentions a widow lying beside her husband's corpse, but the verse actually instructs her to return to life, not die.


Later Smṛti texts have verses that glorify Sati as an act of ultimate devotion.
So was god telling us to kill there wife if husband dies
anyways, Sati was the case only when womens husband was dead and she has no son at the same time, than she had to die with her husband. and if she had son than she was widow in name only. for husband still lives in her son. for son is supposed to be representative of husband. so she dont had to be sati in that case.

but that is all abolished now, and Nowadays, at the present moment, there is no brahmin, no kṣatriya, no vaiśyas. Everyone is a śūdra. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. The situation is different. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has made the thing very easy. Either you become brahmin or śūdra or kṣatriya or less than śūdra, caṇḍāla, or, or anything, it doesn't matter. Take to this chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa, and if you stick to this, and if you follow the regulative principles, your success is sure. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's gift. And that is confirmed here by Nārada Muni, that "There is no loss even one falls down from Kṛṣṇa consciousness platform."
 

jhanjha

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Denying the existence of a father, either biological or spiritual, is not scientific, it's ignorance. True science does not claim that something comes from nothing without cause. In fact, every scientific law points to cause and effect.

so how do we recognize him ? why dont you explain those that from the point of view of your explanatory power from a rationalist lens. what is stopping you ? huh? is there is something that has stopped you now ?

and however true or false one may be as an scientist but you can never say that there is no father before our birth under any circumstences. that is impossible or delusional idiocy to say or even to dare.
 
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DEMONKINGAK

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anyways, Sati was the case only when womens husband was dead and she has no son at the same time, than she had to die with her husband. and if she had son than she was widow in name only. for husband still lives in her son. for son is supposed to be representative of husband. so she dont had to be sati in that case.

but that is all abolished now, and Nowadays, at the present moment, there is no brahmin, no kṣatriya, no vaiśyas. Everyone is a śūdra. Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. The situation is different. Therefore Caitanya Mahāprabhu has made the thing very easy. Either you become brahmin or śūdra or kṣatriya or less than śūdra, caṇḍāla, or, or anything, it doesn't matter. Take to this chanting of Hare Kṛṣṇa, and if you stick to this, and if you follow the regulative principles, your success is sure. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's gift. And that is confirmed here by Nārada Muni, that "There is no loss even one falls down from Kṛṣṇa consciousness platform."
You proved my point morel system changed with the judgement of human only . No divine intervention was needed for it. Yet something which was thought to be a divine revelation was abolished
 

jhanjha

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You proved my point morel system changed with the judgement of human only . No divine intervention was needed for it. Yet something which was thought to be a divine revelation was abolished
moral principle has changed so much that those beautiful british and americans ( who abolished sati pratha ) have turned entire countries like thailand into s-e-x tourism hub as well. what about that as well ? now due to imf and world banks force thai government looks at women and childrens as new raw materials as well.

and at the whole real mother is replaced by the pr0stitute and getting listened with same faith with which previously real mother used to get. so its nothing but an display of might makes right.

otherwise look at thailand, indonesia, and asain tigers, they are pr0stitute hubs now. and womens and childrens are molested officially.
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and we are all born ignorant, but how reasonable it sounds to hear even that it is an myth that there is father before our birth, just because some pr0stitutes ( in the disguise as teachers, scientists, philosophers etc ) says so, isnt it ?
 

jhanjha

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what happened now you wont touch the topic anymore ? that what kind of morality is it to deny the existence of father before our birth ? huh? you becomes immoral immediately when you deny the existence of God or father. nor it is anything rationality which you wants to pass from your intelligent lens, i may tell you this as well. its just an brainwashing and nothing else. which is done by modern civilization from the starting.

you are so much advance in science yet you cannot answer straightly like an man how to recognize him even, and talking simply like nonsense that everything is science, although you cannot explain science, you cannot do anything.
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if you go on looking at half side of sati and igoring that how usa is proud in purchasing haiti women in less than 50 dolllars than you are an idiot. so what about that too ? huh? wise man ? you wont touch this issue also like everything you have not touched in this entire thread ?

than fine, each to their own, you go on with these pr0stitutes with same faith and half understanding, and i go on with real mother. each to their own. than, ;)
 
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jhanjha

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and besides these all purchasing haiti girl under 50 dollar or burning sati what is the connection between those parents who wants to educate their childerns ? and how those stupid childerns are intelligent who wants to play whole day ?

you wont touch any real issues and jump here and there ? fine! i wont blame you much this is what is condition of india in every field.
 

DEMONKINGAK

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what happened now you wont touch the topic anymore ? that what kind of morality is it to deny the existence of father before our birth ? huh? you becomes immoral immediately when you deny the existence of God or father. nor it is anything rationality which you wants to pass from your intelligent lens, i may tell you this as well. its just an brainwashing and nothing else. which is done by modern civilization from the starting.

you are so much advance in science yet you cannot answer straightly like an man how to recognize him even, and talking simply like nonsense that everything is science, although you cannot explain science, you cannot do anything.
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if you go on looking at half side of sati and igoring that how usa is proud in purchasing haiti women in less than 50 dolllars than you are an idiot. so what about that too ? huh? wise man ? you wont touch this issue also like everything you have not touched in this entire thread ?

than fine, each to their own, you go on with these pr0stitutes with same faith and half understanding, and i go on with real mother. each to their own. than, ;)
Dude I am an indian 😅and you r the one who is not replying to my question only stuck on ordinary biological father . What about your mother how do you know the one who raised you is your ordinary biological mother . Again not being rude.
 
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