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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

LuciDio

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We don't even have to go that far. If just the stats were canon, the MC would already be a total monster, but even that isn’t, so it’s not surprising that other mechanics that make the MC stronger aren’t canon either.

The stats wouldn’t make much of a difference before entering the sect, but probably every other fight would end in a single move with all the artifacts and mechanics available to boost stats.
What really bugs me is that the stats even within the normal limit of 10k before the tourney, are honestly only being used fairly well in the arena, and even there it feels iffy sometimes (though I have to say, just outclassing people in their specialty stat is pretty cool sometimes). Like for example the Ruo event when you are meditating.

You can choose to move the sword or even have a brief scuffle with him, but the stats checked in the code are not even close to being utilized to their full potential. Like the infamous, you punch him and it feels like steel is only a 7,5k strength check (which is already mental since Ruo is supposed to be Late Houtian for whom the limit is 5-7,5k I believe).

Like okay disregarding the obvious "but muh bonuses and stacked boosts", the check should be checking for the highest you can have at least naturally, since the alternative is Niki literally telling you even if you pass the check "You're not that guy pal, you're not that guy".

He rarely does do something that I like, which is doing a multi level stat check to basically determine how well you handle something, but that you can count on 2 hands.
 

Sov

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Idk why some can and some can’t, but there’s a reason Chao only has MC. I remember this being a big thing when I was in the discord still, they all wondered how Wu will be restored to greatness. Idk maybe someone will correct me later, think it was a way for him to have a reason to not have MC with kids. I got tired of scrolling, but this is all I found while scrolling regarding this subject. I also remembered some interesting things he’s answered on tumblr that I forgot about.
The chances are low not non existent especially when you have advance your chances get lower yes but your lifespan also gets longer . Also it effects to all being even the gods when they were at the lower realms

It is just that when you become powerful like an Immortal you can kinda just say **** the heavens and have as much children as you want hence TW getting 100k women pregnant
 

Arlonb

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Actually, it makes sense. Just as larger animals with longer life spans tend to reproduce less when compared to smaller animals with shorter life spans.

Well, I suppose this concept doesn't apply once a cultivator has reached a certain level of power. I think that after a certain point, the individual can reproduce as they please, which would explain why TW had tens (hundreds?) of thousands of children, unborn and born.
 

Sov

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Maybe it has to do with Inner Energy feeding on lifeforce. Since he specifically mentioned rebirths. Ruo's parents probably used a lot of artifacts and alchemy to make it happen.
No according to Niki they just had a lot and I mean a lot of intercourse. Also again it applies to all Martial Artists even real cultivators as a restriction placed on by the heavens until you get strong enough to remove it
 

Sov

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Nope it’s lore accurate I’m pretty sure, and nah it’s just harder for some to have children. Basically I think it was the stronger/more potential the person has heaven blocks you from having children. That’s why you see tangs declining and such. You would see S make like 50 kids or such. MC is infertile 100% though last I checked. Also Niki once said Chao has infertility issues too, hence why he has 1 kid. While being who he is
The Tangs declining is purely a result of Yichen actions
 

Arlonb

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Maybe it has to do with Inner Energy feeding on lifeforce. Since he specifically mentioned rebirths. Ruo's parents probably used a lot of artifacts and alchemy to make it happen.
On the one hand, it makes sense, on the other, it doesn't. Because in the end, MAs have a much longer life expectancy than mortals. It doesn't make sense for IE to feed on life force if in the end MAs end up living longer.

My theory is that it's purely biological. You see, MAs undergo Rebirth when they enter a new "Great Realm", and Rebirth reshapes practically the entire body; perhaps this new individual's biology is already programmed with a trade-off: Investing in longevity (maintaining and repairing the body) could mean fewer resources available for reproduction (producing lots of offspring). In other words, the new bodies of the MAs already "know" that they don't need to rush to continue the lineage, because they have time.

And this may be the reason why MAs live longer than cultivators, as cultivators don't go through Rebirth (at least not in the initial realms, and at least MC hasn't so far) their bodies don't undergo a complete change in their biology, they just have their bodies (soul and mind too?) strengthened, which increases their lifespan, but not drastically, even though they are superior to MAs in almost every other aspect.

Edit: Unfortunately, the difficulty of early-stage cultivators to reproduce cannot be explained as anything other than "the will of the Heavens", at least not in my eyes.
 

LuciDio

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On the one hand, it makes sense, on the other, it doesn't. Because in the end, MAs have a much longer life expectancy than mortals. It doesn't make sense for IE to feed on life force if in the end MAs end up living longer.

My theory is that it's purely biological. You see, MAs undergo Rebirth when they enter a new "Great Realm", and Rebirth reshapes practically the entire body; perhaps this new individual's biology is already programmed with a trade-off: Investing in longevity (maintaining and repairing the body) could mean fewer resources available for reproduction (producing lots of offspring). In other words, the new bodies of the MAs already "know" that they don't need to rush to continue the lineage, because they have time.

And this may be the reason why MAs live longer than cultivators, as cultivators don't go through Rebirth (at least not in the initial realms, and at least MC hasn't so far) their bodies don't undergo a complete change in their biology, they just have their bodies (soul and mind too?) strengthened, which increases their lifespan, but not drastically, even though they are superior to MAs in almost every other aspect.

Edit: Unfortunately, the difficulty of early-stage cultivators to reproduce cannot be explained as anything other than "the will of the Heavens", at least not in my eyes.
Huh, wait if I'm remembering correctly Tang Wei said the opposite about Inner Energy in the meeting with him, no? Here's the quote:
,"With a wave of his hand, fire envelops the duo and sends them outside.","","\"There are some things you need to know. First of all, Inner Energy is a lie. Although it may seem a blessing to you, in fact, it's poison. Every time you train and grow its amount, you squeeze out the potential of your body. You run it dry, shortening your life and crippling yourself for real cultivation.\"
I guess he could be talking about shortening the potential amount if you decide to cultivate but it's kinda vague. Inner Energy I'm guessing is tied to everyone possesing trace amounts of qi, maybe Tang Wei taught them to spiritually cripple themselves for pure martial power?
 

Arlonb

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Huh, wait if I'm remembering correctly Tang Wei said the opposite about Inner Energy in the meeting with him, no? Here's the quote:

I guess he could be talking about shortening the potential amount if you decide to cultivate but it's kinda vague. Inner Energy I'm guessing is tied to everyone possesing trace amounts of qi, maybe Tang Wei taught them to spiritually cripple themselves for pure martial power?
Yes, I think it's along those lines. Maybe IE is a poison for the soul and/or mind, and maybe this is why TW says that IE cripples the individual for real cultivation, because in the novels cultivation places enormous importance on the soul. I think this is the fundamental difference between MAs and cultivators, cultivators undergo strengthening and evolution on a fundamental and complete level, while MAs only strengthen their own bodies. This would explain why MAs don't have a fourth "Great Realm", since the fourth "Great Realm" of cultivators is Nascent Soul, clearly the focus is on the soul.
 

Sov

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On the one hand, it makes sense, on the other, it doesn't. Because in the end, MAs have a much longer life expectancy than mortals. It doesn't make sense for IE to feed on life force if in the end MAs end up living longer.

My theory is that it's purely biological. You see, MAs undergo Rebirth when they enter a new "Great Realm", and Rebirth reshapes practically the entire body; perhaps this new individual's biology is already programmed with a trade-off: Investing in longevity (maintaining and repairing the body) could mean fewer resources available for reproduction (producing lots of offspring). In other words, the new bodies of the MAs already "know" that they don't need to rush to continue the lineage, because they have time.

And this may be the reason why MAs live longer than cultivators, as cultivators don't go through Rebirth (at least not in the initial realms, and at least MC hasn't so far) their bodies don't undergo a complete change in their biology, they just have their bodies (soul and mind too?) strengthened, which increases their lifespan, but not drastically, even though they are superior to MAs in almost every other aspect.

Edit: Unfortunately, the difficulty of early-stage cultivators to reproduce cannot be explained as anything other than "the will of the Heavens", at least not in my eyes.
Fertility issues is cause of the same reason as real cultivators. The heavens.

Lifespans real reason is that originally CF lives for 5k years but Niki realized that would mean the further Mortal Realms after CF would live too long so he downgraded CF to 500
 
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LuciDio

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What's interesting to me that in the vision Tang Wei shows of how he got here, he again reiterates that those with IE "destroy" their bodies, and not strengthen them. They don't have and won't ever get meridians and a dantian anyway as a consequence of living on a barren world, so I don't think he's talking about crippling themselves to cultivation.

These children will grow up to be suitable hosts, allow you to leave your injury-ridden body behind. Finally, in a fresh vessel, you will consume the fruits of your labor. Consume thousands who willingly, albeit shrouded by ignorance, destroyed their bodies to grow stronger and provide you enough nourishment for a return home."

To be honest, what's interesting is that he did this so that they would give him more qi to consume when MAs multiply enough over the years. My question is how? He did say that there is no qi in this world at all, and it required a million mortals to create just a dozen qi stones (which are not the regular ones but more like the first one you get when you wake up), so how does increasing IE and going through rebirths increase the potential qi output from someone? Without his blood in your veins you cannot access IE and go through rebirths so I'm guessing MAs are literally forcing the power out of Tang Wei's still divine blood (as he says himself when arriving on Poma world, that his body is still divine) to get IE and the more the purity the easier it is. Maybe that is why Shangtians cannot grow anymore, because they squeezed out all of the power from the blood and converted it all to IE. I theorize that the process of forcing it out of your blood is what makes it destructive to the body, it's not real enlightenment, more taking steroids.
 

Sov

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What's interesting to me that in the vision Tang Wei shows of how he got here, he again reiterates that those with IE "destroy" their bodies, and not strengthen them. They don't have and won't ever get meridians and a dantian anyway as a consequence of living on a barren world, so I don't think he's talking about crippling themselves to cultivation.



To be honest, what's interesting is that he did this so that they would give him more qi to consume when MAs multiply enough over the years. My question is how? He did say that there is no qi in this world at all, and it required a million mortals to create just a dozen qi stones (which are not the regular ones but more like the first one you get when you wake up), so how does increasing IE and going through rebirths increase the potential qi output from someone? Without his blood in your veins you cannot access IE and go through rebirths so I'm guessing MAs are literally forcing the power out of Tang Wei's still divine blood (as he says himself when arriving on Poma world, that his body is still divine) to get IE and the more the purity the easier it is. Maybe that is why Shangtians cannot grow anymore, because they squeezed out all of the power from the blood and converted it all to IE. I theorize that the process of forcing it out of your blood is what makes it destructive to the body, it's not real enlightenment, more taking steroids.
"IE = a mixed, contaminated version of Qi produced by destroying the body's potential and drawing its vitality"
From the author
 

1O0

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That is what everyone got the misconception from. There is a difference from actually being infertile which Niki never said once is the case for us and the chances just being low if we stay in the POMA world
With that being said!

I doubt Nick would actually implement this.
Too much coding and he's already busy with Jinlai.
 
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