Hmm... Too defensive... Almost like an author trying to convince readers that his choices make sense...All of you do realize that crippling someone's foundation is generally an evil thing to do right?
with all due respect to the people who hate muchen, crippling him because he annoys you isn't a neutral action,
forgive me for being presumptuous but that is a very ****ing demonic thing to do
...no? i doubt that muchen will stay depressed forever
if he has the wisp and loses he is going to depressed for while,but he still has his talent,he isnt jing guo to give up
unless there is a path that i am unaware of that results in him giving up while having the wisp
i thought that it was implied that saying you dont care about the world meant you wouldnt mind killing the entire world for qi, not that you have no attachment to the people of this land
you are still crippling him??? its not like he kills you or cripples you if you lose to him,
crippling a disciple, whether or not you are from the same sect, is still a demonic action
and saying that just because it is jiang hu is the same type of thing bohai would say, and if my memory hasn't joined the rouges yet, he isn't considered a ...neutral character

It's in character for him. He never really cared about Jiya enough to sacrifice anything of his for her. He's literally in another sister's robes everytime you see him.
Now that his guaranteed road to success is taken away, he can't afford to play pretend and dick around anymore, which includes stringing her along for his amusement.
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"Waste time", see? That's how he saw their previous time together.
Hmm... Too defensive... Almost like an author trying to convince readers that his choices make sense...
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If the post had that characteristic "ehhh," I'd be certain...
He can hype himself up all he want he ain't worth **** anymore would probably be a +6 qi kill.I bet this loser will try to kill us by overdosing on those steroids the Tea party guy sells.
Muchen only has a really small window to try and do anything to us, since we're about to reach Xiantian soon.
Considering his villainous nature I doubt Niki would care either. Actually I would even bet his Wu Shen is the kind of malign that slaughtered all possible four towns in the book so far. Not even for min-maxxing, he's just that diabolical indeed.Lol, but nah. I'm pretty sure Nicky actually doesn't think taking the Wisp from Muchen is Demonic.
MC doesn't even know it's going to cripple him either.
It still does not mean crippling him is justified? And its an important tourny?Because he annoys you..? He was fighting us with all he had, do you know how much his pathetic attempt at resistance cost you? You're talking like I mugged him on the street because he didn't greet me or something. There's nothing demonic about meeting his escalation. Or rather, there shouldn't be...
Ngl i was roleplaying as a demonic fellow when i decided to join LB, so i might have thought of it as a qi farm rather than indifference. It still seems like a very demon coded choice thoughButterfly talks nonsense about how you two will make the world a much better place yada yada yada, when you first visit her with Xiwen. That's when I say it's not quite enough to win me over.
Still does not excuse crippling a guy, my man. Plus it isnt breaking a few bones it is crippling him, it is different.Big whoop. Dude could've used his token in multiple points of the fight. Do you know what the twins do the moment they realise they're about to lose more than a few bones? THEY DIP. WITH THEIR TOKEN. MEANT EXACTLY FOR SITUATIONS THEY CAN'T HANDLE.
I don’t really remember that fight since I only did it once, but from what I remember, taking the wisp from him was partly justified simply because Muchen was the one who let the wisp out of his body to attack us directly. You’re trying to justify Muchen’s actions, but in reality, we didn’t leave him crippled—he did that to himself by trying to get a Pyrrhic victory with the dumb thing he did. He should’ve known there was always a risk of losing control of the wisp if he took it out of himself, and he still did it just to screw us over. It’s like people who use that move we learned , RAF (I think that’s what the fist move is called), even though they know they lose stats every time they use it and can even die if they spam it too much, they still do itI just want to understand what he did to deserve to get crippled in your eyes, he didnt give up? He went all out? Went against you? Because non of these reasons justifiy crippling him
Niether of us can know that, if we didnt have qi but IE, whether or not we survive is unknowable,for all we know we could be just fine and dandy, and considering that if we lose due to the wisp we dont get a death ending, i assume he does has reasonable control of the wispHe lets out the wisp as a last ditch attempt to win fully knowing that thing could (and probably would, if he was still using Inner Energy) kill Wu Heir, and one of the options you get to defend yourself is to absorb it.
How exactly did he escalate? By not giving up? If you believe that then fine, but that isnt unreasonable escalation, seeing how we are in a very important tournyBut if my neighbor sends out a rabid pitbull to attack me during an altercation THAT HE WILLINGLY AND UNREASONABLY ESCALATED I would be fully on my rights to kill the dog on self defense. If he's sad about it, well... womp womp. Shouldn't have ****ing attacked me in the first place
Sure, I can't know it for sure, but considering we wouldn't be able to use Dao Manifestation it's hard to see us winning the fight proper. Let alone surviving the wisp.Niether of us can know that, if we didnt have qi but IE, whether or not we survive is unknowable,for all we know we could be just fine and dandy, and considering that if we lose due to the wisp we dont get a death ending, i assume he does has reasonable control of the wisp
Ok, so he shouldn't be mad I absorbed his pet and disarmed him. Perfectly reasonable response.How exactly did he escalate? By not giving up? If you believe that then fine, but that isnt unreasonable escalation, seeing how we are in a very important tourny
You're completely missing the point here. Even if they could control the dog, they're still sending it after me with the intent to harm or maim me. I'm fully justified on defending myself even if it means killing their pet.Also, he isnt sending a rabid uncontrolable dog after you. You are just stating a different scenario and acting as if they are the same.
He is sending a wisp, which he controls and knows the limit of his control and retrieves it when he cannot last any longer, this is different from a rapid dog trying to kill you
Except he's not even crippled. He's still training, he's still cultivating, all you do is take away from him the sentient elemental spirit that he enslaved for power.If you want to cripple muchen, be my guest, just know it is a demonic action and not a net neutral one
I am not trying to justifiy muchen's actions, i am trying to refute their's, plus he is trying to win then tourny, if we win he gets screwed and vice versa, it is a zero sum game, either we win or they win, you dont blame either side for what they are doingYou’re trying to justify Muchen’s actions, but in reality, we didn’t leave him crippled—he did that to himself by trying to get a Pyrrhic victory with the dumb thing he did.
I Disagree, if one day we ,as the player decied to use our dao seed against ruo, and ruo with her perfect eyes, steals it and leaves us crippled, it would be wrong to say that it is the players fault, saying that using our dao seed always has a chance to be taken by someone else, and the fact we got crippled is our fault and that she has no blame in it,we didn’t leave him crippled—he did that to himself by trying to get a Pyrrhic victory with the dumb thing he did. He should’ve known there was always a risk of losing control of the wisp if he took it out of himself, and he still did it just to screw us over.
Eh,who knows, i think the spear twins would be able to survive 3 moves with the wisp, but this is just speculationSure, I can't know it for sure, but considering we wouldn't be able to use Dao Manifestation it's hard to see us winning the fight proper. Let alone surviving the wisp.
If you believe that as a response to nlt giving up to wu heir and not letting up until the very end justifies his crippling, then fine, just know that it is a demonic thing to doOk, so he shouldn't be mad I absorbed his pet and disarmed him. Perfectly reasonable response.
And you are in a tourny, where people fight, you can literally decapitate someone. Do you believe that it is unreasonable for the su twins, to use their formation?how about their arts?You're completely missing the point here. Even if they could control the dog, they're still sending it after me with the intent to harm or maim me. I'm fully justified on defending myself even if it means killing their pet.
If someone took your dao seed, it would be reasonable for you to crash out, even though you can still xultivate, you have been severely put at a disadvantage and are weakened, and if you wish tk get revenge on tbe person who took it, it would be understandableExcept he's not even crippled. He's still training, he's still cultivating, all you do is take away from him the sentient elemental spirit that he enslaved for power.
Boo hoo, he got weakened after losing his slave pet. Cry me a river.
I am not niki, believe me, i believe saint players should get something (even if it is not a powerup, recognition and people supporting saint players is what i want, a good deed is a fine reward, but skme recognition would be nice) also i play trash, and i like tigress and hate mei
Evil or not I wanted that **** so I took it, he deserve it after all his tough talking and trolling.Eh,who knows, i think the spear twins would be able to survive 3 moves with the wisp, but this is just speculation
If you believe that as a response to nlt giving up to wu heir and not letting up until the very end justifies his crippling, then fine, just know that it is a demonic thing to do
And you are in a tourny, where people fight, you can literally decapitate someone. Do you believe that it is unreasonable for the su twins, to use their formation?how about their arts?
I mean they intended to harm you, is that not enough justification to cripple and kill them?
Hell the cat that tried scraching you deserves death as well, he wished harm on wu heir
If someone took your dao seed, it would be reasonable for you to crash out, even though you can still xultivate, you have been severely put at a disadvantage and are weakened, and if you wish tk get revenge on tbe person who took it, it would be understandable
Onxe again if you want to steal the wisp and cripple the guy, it aint no problem, but it sure aint a nice thing to do
Hey, as long as you believe what you did is not a neutral thing to do and it is probably evil, then fine by me.Evil or not I wanted that **** so I took it, he deserve it after all his tough talking and trolling.
Like Wu heir said if he wanted to keep it he should've been strong enough to defend it, this guy was talking about how he's not sure if he could control it and how dangerous it was for houtians to face them, then he want to cry because we defended ourselves?
He should be happy that he's even alive after basically trying to kill us
The act of leaving him crippled isn’t really the demonic act, because as far as I understand, the MC didn’t even know that would be the result. The demonic act was refusing to forgive the wisp. Or would you also call it a demonic act to leave Muchen crippled while freeing the wisp? Even though Muchen was holding the wisp against its will, the argument you’re making is completely wrong if you’re using it to defend Muchen.Hey, as long as you believe what you did is not a neutral thing to do and it is probably evil, then fine by me.