Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

[LuciDio]

(As confirmed by Niki himself) Shangtian>>>>>>>>>>PX>>>>>LX>>>>MX>>>EX>>>>>PH>>LH>MH>EH>>Mortal

Though you're considering AGI as 10 instead of 8 in the formula.
0,318 = X • 10^0,08 → 1,2022~/0,318 = X → X = 0,265~.

But let's round that to 10 ≈ 0.25, so, each ">" is equivalent to a factor of 4 in the stage variable. 0.25 as mortal, 2 as E-H, 8 as M-H, 32 as L-H, 128 as P-H and...View attachment 39193as E-X.

Also, regarding the Bull Spirit thing you could take the feat from another angle. Since the bull is stated to weight 6 tonnes, you could use 35 STR Wu Heir dead stopping its charge.
How fast is a M-H? No idea, a weak P-H(42 AGI based on the check) is already Mach speed though. I'd say 50-100 m/s is a acceptable estimative.
Even using a IRL bull's speed it'd already be a feat on the range of ~150 tonnes of exerted force.

Oh I wasn't using agility for the formula, I was using 10 strength from the 700lbs rock scene.

As it is in the code:

t#700 pounds.","\t\t\t\t*set str_req 10","","\t\tThe ring on your finger flickers and a bottle of powder flashes into existence.

Thing is that with the bull stopping force exertion, it doesn't make sense realistically, because as you said - one moment the Wu Heir completely and effortlessly stops its charge but then starts struggling to hold it over his head, when in reality there would have to be an anchor or something weighing the MC down so that the bull doesn't just ragdoll him, as well as the fact that if he had enough power to stop that much mass coming in that quickly without moving, then he would be able to lift close to 3000 metric tons - which is absurd.

But if the formula is adapted to this statement by Niki it could be done this way:

Mortal (X=1), EH (X=3), MH (X=4), LH (X=5), PH (X=7), EX (X=12) and so on.

Then if taking strictly lifting strength, MH with 35 in strength would be able to lift 4*10^0.35 or 9 tons, which could be possible because in the bull scene the Wu Heir states that it's 'north of a half dozen tons' so it could be 9.

Then the difference between a PH and MH is more dramatic, being 4*10^0.3 or 8 tons for a normal maxed out MH and 7*10^0.5 or 22.1 tons for a normal maxed out PH. Which actually seems more accurate to the lore.

Then the difference between a PH and a weak EX would be - 7*10^0.5 vs 12*10^1.5 or 22.1 vs 380 metric tons. Which again could be possible if not for the low power ceiling going onwards and the fact that we don't know any stat ranges for anything above EX.

 

[Diamondhead]

I think the problem is that you are likely overestimating how the Nikiverse view TW and his potential. And thinking that everyone viewed it as basically guaranteed for TW to become a God

When I think it is likely that Yan and the rest of the Nikiverse is basing mc talent thing on TW path to Godhood and viewing that his path was still a hard path with uncertain chances of Godhood that he got lucky enough to succeed . But that isn't any indication for his reincarnation to have the same luck

Am I tripping the reply is supposed to be for me but the quoted lines is someone else's comment? this is comment i made but the reply is quoting some other comment but it's under my name.

Like the quoted post in the above screenshot isn't something I posted atleast I don't think so and when I click on it it takes me to post that is in the first screenshot Weird as hell.

 

[any name u wish]

Doubtful. TW reached CF at 76 years, although he managed to unlock his DS earlier than Wu Heir somehow.
I can't imagine a COP holder needing that much time in a proper world with any backing to be honest.

I've got to agree with you there Diamondhead.

Am I tripping the reply is supposed to be for me but the quoted lines is someone else's comment?

What do you mean?

 

[Zeus]

Diamondhead spitting straight facts 🗣

 

[Seyiz]

i know i aint supposed to be asking this here and ill ask in the actual ac thread later but does anyone know the code to make this tian fang scene accessible and also to increase the amount of days before the trial?

 

[Totenkopf]

I've got to agree with you there Diamondhead.

What do you mean?

What the hell is happening... Nevermind

Then the difference between a PH and MH is more dramatic, being 4*10^0.3 or 8 tons for a normal maxed out MH and 7*10^0.5 or 22.1 tons for a normal maxed out PH. Which actually seems more accurate to the lore.

I wouldn't say more accurate to the lore, though. Even if we disregard the statements and base ourselves solely on feats, its a instance against other. Yes, Wu Heir had trouble lifting the Bull, but right before he performed a monstrously more impressive feat. Right after too, by the way. As Wu Heir can simply kick the bull showing no difficulty.
Try kick a 50-kilogram bag of cement(Just kidding, don't try it).
Yang Gan/Su De bypassing dozens of walls made of steel. Su De holding the 200ft length Heavenly Palm.

If anything I'd say that this is just the power system taking priority over pure metric weights. This happens a lot in fiction, as I said, just look at Vegeta not being able to lift Magetta who weighs 1,000 tonnes. Lifting/Moving a powered opponent is completely different from lifting/moving a normal object.
I'll made an example, as you said, the Bull's weight, based on the 35 STR calculation, is roughly 9-10 tonnes. A maxed out PH(50 STR) can lift 22.
LC is below, in stats, to a maxed-out Peak-Houtian. Can you imagine LC having any problem to ragdoll any Rank-2(MH equivalent) beast based on the beast weight? It's impossible, just look at how LC ragdolled the Rank-2 Wolf toying with "Thousands of Pounds of Wolf with a single arm".

 

[any name u wish]

just look at Vegeta not being able to lift Magetta who weighs 1,000 tonnes.

I can't believe they didn't go with a high tech reason or Magetta making himself heavier or anything.

I recall someone calling him stupid because "That guys weighs 1000 tons. Obviously you can't lift him!" Which is...

 

[Diamondhead]

I can't believe they didn't go with a high tech reason or Magetta making himself heavier or anything.

I recall someone calling him stupid because "That guys weighs 1000 tons. Obviously you can't lift him!" Which is...

Isn't it obvious tho it's not dead weight? It's another person with that much weight trying to not let you lift not even taking in the power he has even real life it's way harder to lift someone who knows how to stay stable.

So guy weighs 1000 tons is way different than lifting 1000 tons of dead weight which isn't opposing you it is not something that needs to be said out loud tbh it is a common thing still I get why people say otherwise.

 

[any name u wish]

Isn't it obvious tho it's not dead weight? It's another person with that much weight trying to not let you lift not even taking in the power he has even real life it's way harder to lift someone who knows how to stay stable.

So guy weighs 1000 tons is way different than lifting 1000 tons of dead weight which isn't opposing you it is not something that needs to be said out loud tbh it is a common thing still I get why people say otherwise.

Pls brother. Magetta was not even remotely trying and applying an ounce of effort.


This was a FEAT. At least considered one...

 

[Totenkopf]

I recall someone calling him stupid because "That guys weighs 1000 tons. Obviously you can't lift him!" Which is...

Beerus: "What you're doing Vegeta? You can't lift it, it weighs 1,000 tons!"

Proceed to show base Vegeta effortlessly lifting a ****ing ship sized chunk of rock in the Granolah saga...
Man, I love DB but it's so inconsistent sometimes that it's even funny.

 

[Diamondhead]

Pls brother. Magetta was not even remotely trying and applying an ounce of effort.

How was he not if someone stands still it doesn't mean dead weight you don't need to actually touch them even your posture matters and how you are applying force to the ground aswell just try it in real life and stand still tell your friend to lift you while you apply pressure to the ground with your feet a decent width apart your posture stable they will have hard time lifting you add a slight bend to your knees and it gets even harder.
Kale lifting him is a feat tho since he isn't dead weight

 

[Diamondhead]

Beerus: "What you're doing Vegeta? You can't lift it, it weighs 1,000 tons!"

Proceed to show base Vegeta effortlessly lifting a ****ing ship sized chunk of rock in the Granolah saga...
Man, I love DB but it's so inconsistent sometimes that it's even funny.

That's any media tbh if you want more inconsistency just check any comics not even Marvel or DC since they are notorious for this but even invincible is riddled with it.

 

[any name u wish]

How was he not if someone stand still it doesn't mean dead weight you don't need to actually touch them eve your posture matters and how you are applying force to the ground aswell just try it in real life and stand still tell your friend to lift you while you apply pressure to the ground with your feet a decent width apart your posture stable they will have hard time lifting you.
Kale lifting him is a feat tho since he isn't dead weight

I dunno why you're trying to justify it, the reason for him being unable to be lift is said to be solely a result of his weight multiple times. Not that he's fighting against it.

 

[Diamondhead]

I dunno why you're trying to justify it, the reason for him being unable to be lift is said to be solely a result of his weight multiple times. Not that he's fighting against it.

This isn't justification it's funny because of how you interpret it this isn't a rock or gym plates it is a person that weighs this much the Manga shouldn't need to say lifting a person with x amount of weight is harder than a dead weight it's one of the things that's obvious but somehow people still get confused even they somehow miss the obvious that much weight is a big deal because it is a creature weighing that much this is something that should be obvious lol to anyone who has lifted or trains or just in general

 

[any name u wish]

This isn't justification it's funny because of how you interpret it this isn't a rock or gym plates it is a person that weighs this much the Manga shouldn't need to say lifting a person with x amount of weight is harder than a dead weight it's one of the things that's obvious but somehow people still get confused even they somehow miss the obvious that much weight is a big deal because it is a creature weighing that much.

What do you think Vegeta's maximum should be at that point? I don't see a world where 1000 tons would ever be a problem for him, he should be able to lift it by gripping it with his eyelashes

 

[Sov]

You cant just become a god over a million years and call it him being lucky. Even if TW was a bum, it furthur reinforces how powerful his physique was. I dont think there's any credibility in Yue Yan's statements. MC is growing crazy in a barren world since getting a cultivator body, A rich man wouldnt know the struggles of a beggars journey to make himself self sustainable. I dont like the fact that everyone is downplaying the unique scenario of MC's heritage.

LB doesn't even find mc growth impressive. Also Dreamweaver

And if TW himself could have realistically died many times but just got lucky enough to survive. Then yes you could call that lucky. Regardless if it took him 10k years or 1 trillion years to reach Godhood

 

[any name u wish]

LB doesn't even find mc growth impressive. Also Dreamweaver

At this point I fully expect you to tell me "Yeah Ai doesn't actually love you, she's kind of settling." "So does Mei."