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edit: honestly, I don't blame you for replying to everyone. getting hate for no reason is exhausting
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edit: honestly, I don't blame you for replying to everyone. getting hate for no reason is exhausting
Ah, I apologise then. Mistake on my end
And yeah... It does become quite bothersome after some time, especially because none of them even know why they hate me.
It's basically like how people just hate Nickleback because it's a meme and trendy to hate them. For me, they'll say I spread hate, but when asked where am I spreading hate, well, I just am, and **** you for asking
Probably been asked this to death, but who were you on the other sites bro? Swear you said you were an ex cog author or something?Ah, I apologise then. Mistake on my end
And yeah... It does become quite bothersome after some time, especially because none of them even know why they hate me.
It's basically like how people just hate Nickleback because it's a meme and trendy to hate them. For me, they'll say I spread hate, but when asked where am I spreading hate, well, I just am, and **** you for asking
I actually haven't been asked that yet!
But no, I'm not an ex cog author, though Neon Dreams is still on the cog demos website.No, I'm just a writer of IFs, and have been on Tumblr by the same name you see here.
In all that time, I have Neon Dreams, which has a prologue and 7 chapters? If I recall correctly, though it's on hold since I'm focusing on my magnum opus, aka The Dark Crown.
Same goes for Font Lay, which is on Itch, but only has a prologue and the first chapter. Also on hold, because of the same reason.
And am currently writing tdc, and there is only a 470k+ word prologue currently out, but I'm actively working on chapter 1 now.
So yeah, not an ex writer, since I'm still doing it, and am still making IFs.
But also, some of my more notable appearances are from the fact that I was always in some drama bullshit on Tumblr, simply because I like to tell it how it is, and have a lot to say
Which is also why a lot of people liked me, believe it or not, and have respected me. And when I say people, I mean people, and not other writers. Those mostly hate me, but there are instances who I respect and like, so yeahThe infamous L, the boogeyman of the IF community (rightfully so I'd say
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Now there! I am also a tumblirina, but I don't like that one
I think you need to be a very specific kind of white middle-class USA american to like Our Life. To me the family in our life seemed cold and sanitised af (not because there was no conflict in the family or anything but because the way the parents expressed affection).
This thread is doomed. It started with reviews and meaningful discussions and devolved into making fun of other fans and developers. An author allowed to proudly galavant about as well...
It's very easy to tell you're the same person. You type the same, speak about the same topics, hate the same people with the same amount of passion, and the other account stopped logging in and speaking around the time you thought it was long enough to stop doing so. Joining this site with a false premise and a fake fan supporting you is very cringey.
It's very easy to tell you're the same person. You type the same, speak about the same topics, hate the same people with the same amount of passion, and the other account stopped logging in and speaking around the time you thought it was long enough to stop doing so. Joining this site with a false premise and a fake fan supporting you is very cringey.
So am I and yeah, it's very white middle class liberal American fantasy. Costal Town where pretty much everything is perfect and every problem pretty much solves itself with time. A sterile, sanitized game for sterile, sanitized people.Now there! I am also a tumblirina, but I don't like that one
There's nothing in the thread that states that authors aren't allowed here, but I do tend to agree that making fun or creating drama between other members isn't needed. It would be nice to get back to an actual dicussion as the last two pages or so has just been about entertaining a troll.
** I do find it disappointing to say I've struggled to find a story this past year. I don't know if its becuase I'm worried they'll fall through or that there's not a lot there.
Now I've been here for awhile and this thread has always made fun of other fans and developers. As for reviews and discussions, there's still those things (literally within the last week we were talking about VN and IF monetization) but there's nothing much to talk about.
COG releases have been as sparse as it has been mediocre (and I'm being very nice here). Most demos have nothing to really complain about outside of unnecessary rewrites (BoC and KaE as worst offenders), lack of updates but 1000 side stories, paywalls (especially combined with the lack of updates) and just being basically nonexistent outside of maybe the character customisation. All of which are frequent topics and complaints here. Do things get a bit carried away? Yes. But it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
That being said, if you think there's something to talk about or want to discuss something, how about starting the topic? There's nothing stopping you.
I agree it's been absolutely boring and I mean it, there's a reason why people post here sporadically, there just isn't crap out there to be disappointed by, plus I think most of us already are disappointed from the get go.
I've found current WIPs that are great. I think peoples standards are either skewed or they're worn out of the genre. Take breaks. Your mind doesn't need to be constantly reading IFs. Start reading IFs where the main focus isn't romance and look for less popular ones.
I actually meant to say bullying instead of 'making fun of' there but decided against it. No, the original parts of the thread didn't have people making fun of authors to the extent that people do now and never attacked other users favorite games to this degree. I mean, I could. There are a few games here and in the IF and VN space that are praised constantly but that I find extremely bland and sloppily made for profit but I'm not going to list any of them because people here would get offended and or start attacking the intelligence of the developers and the fans instead of just stating their opinions. You can list your opinions without belittling other people. That's lazy.
I actually meant to say bullying instead of 'making fun of' there but decided against it. No, the original parts of the thread didn't have people making fun of authors to the extent that people do now and never attacked other users favorite games to this degree. I mean, I could. There are a few games here and in the IF and VN space that are praised constantly but that I find extremely bland and sloppily made for profit but I'm not going to list any of them because people here would get offended and or start attacking the intelligence of the developers and the fans instead of just stating their opinions. You can list your opinions without belittling other people. That's lazy.
Yeah, a big\popular\notable WIP updates, we flood the thread a bit, complaining and gushing, then it goes into a lull, then the cycle repeats. Personally, my main beef with IFs is that I am mainly a fantasy fan (romance or not), but the good ones, imo, are few and far in-between, Speaking of: playing the Last Winter Knight rn and enjoying it quite a bit.
Pretty much. For every gem, there's a ton of slop and it becomes awful to slog through in the hopes that the IF you picked up actually delivers an enjoyable story or even gets another update. Disappointment requires expectations, most IF don't get to that part.
Again, For every gem, there's a ton of slop. You aren't seeing people talking about Season of Shadows, Kindling, Sword of Rheavina's remake (The OG was a frequent mention here before the remake was announced) etc. Stuff like Dao Ascension, POMA and Aura Clash only really pop up when the topic is about how female vs male protagonists are treated. BoC really only comes up when I bring it up (and I love BoC, I hate the wasted potential by an author whose clearly either not using an outline or not sticking to the one they have). And what bullying? Complaining about certain writers isn't bullying. Unless you're directly going to the authors to harass them (which is a bannable offense here), nothing said here can be constituted as bullying.
The most frequent complaint here is about dead WIPs. IFs that publish a demo and either open a patron right after (if they didn't have a patron beforehand), or launch a tumblr page but post nothing but short stories, 'previews' and asks. TBH that doesn't sound like people who've lost their love of the genre, just people tired of the current state of it. And the current state of it is pretty awful.
Just because YOU have found something you liked and are comfortable with doesn't make everyone else's complaints invalid. The IFs I like are either slow updaters but high quailty ( Season of Shadows, Kindling, Deux a Deux, Pactbinder) or frequent updaters (POMA, Dao Ascension, Iron Kings Heir, BoC). However, it does suck when you find a new IF that you love or find a potential demo that sounds super good, only to be met with the same thing over and over again. This thread is dead like 60% of the time anyway.
I mean I don't focus on the genre all that much any more due to being burned far too many times. I can go months/weeks without looking at it. I usually find out about a chapter update weeks after lol. .
It because of this issue I just find it hard to find that pull to truly go back in and find new ones. If I do I usually look to see if they've finish any work beforehand. Like I said when you get burned too many times you not gonna go back for more
I think we also need to take into account there is always gonna be someone whose gonna 'yuck your yum'.
I enjoyed Our life, The Second Sight, I thoroughly enjoy V/N I grew up on otome games. I don't care if people talk absolute dogshite about it, or pile on about it. I just don't comment. I get where your coming from and if people get offended so be it. Thats you opinion I don't have to listen to it. This places is not meant to be an echo chamber. I'd hope we're better than that
I hope I'm not too late to this thread, but I have my own insight!
It's seriously damn hard to make a VN or IF, especially when you're a first-time author. Branching, coding, story, and of course, there's the money issue. I tried making an IF a while back - it was several times more complex than writing a novel, and I really had to put it on hold (had just the prologue) because the story was too big for my own abilities of the moment and the fact it was an IF so it had its own limitations for what I envision.
Then I decided that the nature of my idea (folk horror based on my culture), I'd really have to make a videogame instead, lmao. I've learned a lot about programming/coding/etc, but I definitely need a lot of help and doing the whole process alone is almost masochistic, so I decided I should actually build a fanbase, get traction, save money and such so that when I have enough saved, I can pay people to help me with the creative process of the project. I'm writing books about the lore and such (though I have to translate them into English, damn) to generate real interest and build interest for a future.
Now, I could have just made an IF demo of the game with just what I had, hooked people in, and automatically opened a Patreon or something. Or I could (like many authors do) use AI to write slop and speed up the work. The likely result in both cases would be me getting burned by the story or just abandoning it. The truth is that money, especially for creating something you love and want to share with the world, is often necessary if you want to refine your work or feel like it's 'real work' or that you're 'being recognized' as a true author.
That's why I think many VN and IF fail, because they focus on instant success when it doesn't work that way. I know many people who write because they expect to get rich, setting unrealistic expectatives. And I know a lot of stories that don't even advance from chapter 1 due this.
You probably missed a little bit of information where I informed people on here that he got BANNED. From what he told me, the ban lasts until August, and he'll return then.
Ad by your logic, the three retards are also the same person. Speaking the same, acting the same, using the same phrases...
Honestly, at this point, I'm just happy that none of you decided to pursue careers in detective work, for if that was the case, the crime would be blooming more so than it even currently is. So thank **** for that
Hey, I was chilling! Tell that to the Blaire character, who decided to come at me
And this other mf too.I'm literally not the one instigating these things
The thing is simple. The well is drying up.
All the stories that people wanted to discuss about here have been discussed, and the new stuff, no one is bothering with that. Unless you're going to go over the same topics again and again, at some point the idea of this thread will come to a halt. What can I say more than that
Also the reason for less and less modding and leaks and everything. Hell, it was even mentioned a few days ago that COG and HG are practically dying out, so that says a lot
No, it's that people have become little snowflakes. "Making fun of" is what people consider "bullying" nowadays, and it's a sad sight honestly.
People ****ing around? Let them express their opinions. "Attacking the intelligence" is stating one's opinion.
And you probably missed the literal first posts of this thread, because why do you think it's the stories leaving people disappointed? It's because of the person who writes them, and not stories themselves, and in like 70% of the cases, it's because the stories were left abandoned. Am I to blame stories for that?
And you can list anything, no one would get offended. Everyone's free to express their thoughts and views, from what I've seen at least
This reminded me of that one asian cooking content creator on YouTube
I can attest to this. From personal experience, one really has to be dead set on this, to actually make it work. Hell, I'd also be making The Dark Crown into an actual game, but my current pc setup just wouldn't be able to handle that, so I have to stick with what I can
CoG was lowkey on the wayout before wayhaven too.. Kind of saved the brand ngl
The owners have a issue where they spread their finances too thin... Frequently
Also doesn't help that no one's finishing a game, and publishing through them anymore. Same goes for HG.
Only the big things, like Zombie Exodus are left to try and carry them, but even those aren't enough to keep them afloat for long
Saved the brand but brought in a new audience of moneygrubbing writers. Its so hard explaining to people how the IF scene was before
Lowkey cog would have improved authors pay %age already if it werent for patreon
May be, but it's honestly disgusting the percentage they take for literally nothing. Especially considering that they aren't some top dogs, and are barely being able to compete with solo/indie developers. Not really giving a reason to anyone to join them.
Though I must say, yeah, the Patreon thing is also a factor, but I can't really blame people for wanting to make money. I can criticize how they go about it, but the feat alone is something that anyone wants, not just them