unless I'm mistaken and merry crisis is actually an interactive novel, in which case, pretend i didn't type the above
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Oh well, I’m glad that the author kept the IF version instead of replacing it with a VN, at least (YES, yes the bar is that low )Ah, but after reading through their Tumblr it seems they're planning to release Merry Crisis in both forms. So it's all good I guess.
In my opinion, such games should have mouldable protagonists, and you can decide which route to take or how to react in certain situations. Some IFs such as Market Night, AtoC, The King's Hound, etc. They write a linear story, taking away the fun of using your "skills" or choosing your behaviour towards certain characters. Why don't they write a book and publish it? It's easier than dealing with criticism, because their way of writing is for a book, not for interactive fiction.
One of the reasons I like The Golden Rose/Mind Blind is because I can choose the MC's personality and skills, and then the mistakes and decisions I make have an impact on the plot.
Maybe I'm wrong (or am I stating the obvious?), I admit I'm no expert on games, but I can tell when what I'm playing is boring and bland
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THOU HAVE SPOKEN AFOUL OF NIGHT MARKET, ATOC, THE KING'S HOUND, etc!!!In my opinion, such games should have mouldable protagonists, and you can decide which route to take or how to react in certain situations. Some IFs such as Market Night, AtoC, The King's Hound, etc. They write a linear story, taking away the fun of using your "skills" or choosing your behaviour towards certain characters. Why don't they write a book and publish it? It's easier than dealing with criticism, because their way of writing is for a book, not for interactive fiction.
One of the reasons I like The Golden Rose/Mind Blind is because I can choose the MC's personality and skills, and then the mistakes and decisions I make have an impact on the plot.
Maybe I'm wrong (or am I stating the obvious?), I admit I'm no expert on games, but I can tell when what I'm playing is boring and bland
(Please don't kill me for this comment, I'm too shy to reply again
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I mean visual novels are also choice-based interactive fiction/novels. They just have more bells and whistles.WHAAAAAATTT I AM SO DISAPPOINTED. I pick up merry crisis because it's an interactive novel
Sorry for being so petty lmao. But an IF relies on the reader's imagination more than VNs. So if I can imagine Qiu having a bowl cut, then I will imagine Qiu having a bowl cut throughout my playthrough. VNs won't let me do that because they have character arts. And not to mention the limited character creation.
There are also quite a few indie VNs that offer a similar level of character creation as text-based IF too such as GBPatch's Our Life series, Hanako Games Magical Diary series, or the free VN from Underbliss; Ebonlight. Just to name a few.
The only type of VN that aren't interactive are kinetic novels which are just traditional novels that have been adapted to the visual novel style and have zero choices.
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I tend to agree, it feels like Shepherd of Haven is really meant to be a video game it comes off as one or very much a visual novel. I do enjoy it but it's like the author wanted to go one way with the story but either doesn't have the funding to go that route. It reads video game, trying to be a fictional story.
They don't offer the same experience as interactive novels to me. I'm not opposed to playing VNs, but compared to interactive novels, I need a lot more boxes to be ticked just to play a VN. Be it the art style, character creation options, story, etc etc. I'm just picky I guess haha.
Interactive novels won't have a lot of these problems because I can just imagine what kind of art style I would like to use as I imagine the story. And character creation won't matter much because I can just imagine how my character look in my head. It's not like every page they remind me what kind of hairstyle I'm rocking, what kind of clothes I'm wearing. I can just imagine it. VN won't let me have the same freedom
Yeah, they're games. But I feel like stuffs like turn based combat, dungeon crawling, and resource management need pictures to make it engaging. Because reading about what stuffs I have in my inventory isn't a fun experience especially when I have a lot of them. It feels like I'm reading an excel spreadsheet instead of playing interactive novel.
It feels like they're trying to be video games instead of interactive novels and I can feel it when I play those kind of IFs
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I have that peculiar thing about visual novels as well. However, I tend to do it in CYOA interactive novels that have already written extensive lines about a RO's appearance.
Take Wayhaven Chronicles for example. Adam/Ava doesn't have red hair.
In my mind, the ultimate tsundere paranormal romance romantic interest usually has red hair.
So I don't care how many special stories and artwork get released that show Adam/Ava as a blondie, mine is a ginger.
Always™***.
Similarly goes Farah.
My first CYOA novel romance interest has a similar sounding name to Pharah of Overwatch?
Then she looks just like her, and my MC is tapping only that, thank you very much!
No special artworks needed!
***"Always" and any special or suggested usage of the word is trademarked from Harry Potter and Warner Brothers, any unauthorized usage of said word will get the offender to court. If you think you can use it freely, you may join the list like all others in the courtroom.
Thats why I like playing IFs, I can imagine Ava as a silver haired without the constant reminder (if it was a VN) that she isnt.
What made u think that?Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to say. You put it into words better than I did lol
And then there's the odd way some fans and even the author are treating Blade. Calling him a pathetic wet cat, weird marriage jokes (is marriage going to be a mandatory part of his romance ending or something?), all this stuff made it impossible for me to treat his character seriously
i never read anything abt a marriage but yeah its a bit odd sometimes. Like. no one takes him seriously (even though he's super intimidating and strict etc etc) but also no one takes anyone seriously in story its hard to remember its supposed to be a desperate fight against the demons? Like.Does anyone care about that? the mc forgot about [redacted] ? Everything is fine and the power of friendship wins the day i guessI also dont like how youre supposed to be getting swordsmanship training from Blade just to be on his route like Why am i forced to it my mc doesn't even use swords?? Together with the way the mc suddenly has to feel protected™ and safe™ (written repeatedly) feels off in a misogynistic way to me since this is The straight route... and itd be cute once but its in Every Dayoff. okayyyy he will die for you. I get it. Can I say something back? No? ..okay... its a lot of tell dont show with the way you keep getting paragraphs about Blade's feelings..from side characters..and in their interactions He's not interested.... up to latest chapters. Girl Get uP (to be fair i think A from Wayhaven is worse when it comes to this)
Also...something that annoys me about the mc....its obvious that the story is written with a set novel character in mind imo..the text never really lets you go out of that humorous pov. Like even with more linear stories you get more varied mcs.. i was just really into this story before..sigh
Okay, heads up for Can't Save Your Love From Dying. The author really, really like to write shitty characters for some reason. And no, those characters won't change once you romance them they'll still be a prick. For. Some. Reason author's probably a sadist (≖_≖ )
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💬 0 🔁 0 ❤️ 50 · S doesn't care about mc and R's relationship much and only brought it up to hurt mc in the hospital. This is for some reason the type of relationship I love. Not exactly enemies…
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She writes incredible prose but she can't write good characters. The whole point of writing a character is giving them a character arc, growth and personality. The character is supposed to grow with the plot— it doesn't have to positive, they can get worse too but it can be boring if everyone and everything else is changing and the characters continue to be constant. Where's the character development babe.Okay, heads up for Can't Save Your Love From Dying. The author really, really like to write shitty characters for some reason. And no, those characters won't change once you romance them they'll still be a prick. For. Some. Reason author's probably a sadist (≖_≖ )
Post by @untitledrockstar-if
💬 0 🔁 0 ❤️ 50 · S doesn't care about mc and R's relationship much and only brought it up to hurt mc in the hospital. This is for some reason the type of relationship I love. Not exactly enemies…
I don’t really mind if an RO has moral flaws, but the R in CAN'T SAVE YOUR LOVE FROM DYING just feels like a boring, immature, arrogant teenager you’d find anywhere on an American street—there’s nothing really appealing about them. I feel like the author’s writing is average, and this IF gained so much attention within just a few days mainly because of the drama within the story and the drama surrounding the author. Maybe I’m being too mean
Don't worry though, we'll get GTA VI before it gets released
Only to find out characters like that exist in the game itself.Don't worry though, we'll get GTA VI before it gets released
Honestly, they all feel like that, Even the MC. I know ***, drugs and rock n roll doesn't lend itself to maturity, but everyone there acts like what teenagers think being cool is.
I'm gonna sound like a jerk, but if true, this gotta have to do with the maturity level of the author herself. You cannot write characters that are more clever/mature/whatever than you yourself are, after all.
Then again, from observation, many IF readers seem to be the same way really.
Kinda torpedoed my desire to write anything lately tbh.
