the only RO's I've seen where the author straight up said wouldn't be into an emotional mess of an MC are Rosy from Mind Blind and Riel from ShOH
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Stories that left you disappointed for a reason
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I understand, I like them too. I play a lot of yandere vn's, murder sims, horror's, etc. Sometimes it's just too much for my mental state. My irl life not daisy's and rainbows at the end of the day. I need something to balance it all from time to time. And it would've been nice to have more chill options that I didn't read/played/watched million times already. (And it doesn't need to be absolutely dramaless too)I’m sorry, I’m guilty of this but I love tortured MCs and dark themes.I just find it more compelling to read about, don’t know why.
the only one I felt some tension was with Jarkyth during the gladiator arc, kinda anticlimatic how easy he went down with the power of friendship
No problem at all with tortured MCs. God knows how obsessed I am with the Ronin from SoH, Sidestep, the Marshal from ItFO, the Corruptant from the Corruptant, Virtue's End, Greenwarden, and many more. The problem is when those tortured characters aren't treated with the gravity they deserve. How are we supposed to sympathize and take these tortured MC seriously if the author treats their suffering as if it was just a cute quirky little trait to fawn over and generate cheap angst?I’m sorry, I’m guilty of this but I love tortured MCs and dark themes.
An assumption, but I think a lot of authors may have simply never experienced the kind of heavy trauma they're writing of, God bless them (it's a good thing). Therefore, they never witnessed how destructively it can manifest or what the consequences can be.
There's also that... wish, the fantasy of being loved and helped no matter how bad you get, I think.
Even if they haven't, there are plenty of resources that could help them better understand (the wonders of internet). But guess we shouldn't expect so much as a simple research (and adequate understanding) from IF authors... sigh. Or maybe we're just too ingrained in reality. Remember when Debt of Deception author wrote and (at first) insists that making the struggling MC say naive stuff like "That's how they do it on TVs" and such makes sense? So glad someone knock some sense into the author and the IF is now far better off for it.
I get what the author was saying though, not every person who has struggled or witnessed violence is going to lack naivety. I don’t think it’s a matter of “them not doing adequate research.” Maybe just a different perspective. Someone who’s never been apart of a gang (like the mc) is bound to be at least a little naive about gang activity and people irl do tend to get a lot of their information from movies and social media. Wasn’t that far fetched out of reality to me. Though I’m glad they listened and took the feedback
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As someone pointed out, they could always do research on the topic but frankly, I think a lot of the problem is that they also never really think through their ideas before implementing them and just write whatever comes to mind even if it doesn't make sense (to anyone else but them) in reality. A lot of them are also extremely dependent of tropes and cliches from other media as part of their understanding of things so they don't even realize that they're writing harmful stereotypes or misinformation.
I think the reason why most people really like a mentally messed up MC is because there's almost always a prelude required for their current predicament. The authors bother to give MC a proper backstory. In some cases it falls short because the author shows too much of the MC's backstory and in the end people are conflicted between the MC they are roleplaying as and the MC the author revealed to us. I'm reading Shepherds of Haven now and I feel this all the time. I'm not even sure what kind of person my MC is, the dialogue options and the way the conversations and certain elements of the story are written makes it difficult to find an equillibrium. With every different conversation, I feel like my MC is a different person each time and oscillating between them. Some IF's though did a good job of pulling us into that prelude without making the MC a completely different person. ITFO, Golden Rose (Imo the most immersive IF ive read so far along with Shattered Eagle: Fall of an Empire), Corruptant, BOC although we're barely out of our teens, Keeper Series did a really good job at showing the graduality of MC losing their sanity. All theses IF's have different amount of content for said prelude but they manage to stay consistent throughout the MC's journey.
This
I've been repeating AMR book2 recently and being forced to be friends with Eli pisses me off just as much as before. My cold stoic MC has to suddenly become emotional and cry or blabber something about special bond between them. Okay, dude I'm grateful for saving my life and all, we were childhood friends but years passed and, well....... I just don't understand why the author can't give one option that would allow MC to distance themselves from Eli. It's not that hard. Unless... if this were allowed, Eli's existence would no longer have any purpose. Their whole life revolves around MC. B o r i n g.
Even Leomar is a better character, no matter how much I hate him.
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But why would you dislike the nice best friend character?
See how nice they are? See how they smile upon seeing you?
You rejecting them... Why, it might just break their heart! You don't want to see them cry, don't you?
You think they won't cry? Have you seen them smiling this way at anyone else, hm?
No, you're the special one. Isn't it nice, feeling special?
Come on, smile. Don't make them sad.
Believe me.
If you make them sad.
They'll make you sad as well~
("don't turn everything into a horror prompt" challenge: failed)
See how nice they are? See how they smile upon seeing you?
You rejecting them... Why, it might just break their heart! You don't want to see them cry, don't you?
You think they won't cry? Have you seen them smiling this way at anyone else, hm?
No, you're the special one. Isn't it nice, feeling special?
Come on, smile. Don't make them sad.
Believe me.
If you make them sad.
They'll make you sad as well~
("don't turn everything into a horror prompt" challenge: failed)
This was hot.
Now I need a yandere BFF IF
there's definitely some vn's with thisNow I need a yandere BFF IF
this for example https://itsyaboi328.itch.io/stnaf
I wouldn't mind having yandere in the story but I hate being forced to like the characters and no arguments about how good and loyal a friend they are convince me. No IFs in cog style?
Forgive the harshness of my reply here, my good ally, but you've recently seen an armada of IF's unable to release one snippet of information without fan-paid paychecks and not have the cajones to leave their Patreon walls for five years straight, and you want them to add stuff???
No IFs in cog style?
... yes.
ahhh, my MC is romancing Eli after ditching Leon for burning them, so I don't mind. I see Eli and my MC as trauma-bonded (hence why I'm ok with Eli being kinda pathetic towards the MC), but yeahhh, I kinda went ??? when I saw there was no option to be cold towards them, even if it were explained by MC moving on or acquiring enough trauma during the war that they don't want to let anyone in...
For me the main perpetrators are Fadiya is ashes and flames and Sal in Mind Blind. I guess I'm not a fan of the whole 'here's your badass bubbly friend who is totally fine! (unlike your MC) See how they insert themselves into MC's life to save MC and MC can't say no to them or grow resentful of them playing the saviour role'.
I really want a kind of toxic friend char who comes across as nice bubbly saviour but actually is the reason behind MC's problems or smth, now that I think of it.
Generally, when it comes to AMR, I've noticed that MC behaves most of the time as if
it wasn't a big deal. There is no visible trauma. I don't know, maybe it's because the game is focused on action and the author doesn't like to delve into those heavy topics of experiencing trauma.
At least some people would like to play like this way and despite the option to reset personality, it doesn't really matter. It's clear that the author has preferences regarding MC's behavior.
taking part in the war, killing someone from their childhood, then killing an innocent person to save the whole city, and then a humiliating death at the stake on the orders of their friend/lover and then brought back from the dead by some sorceress
It doesn't have to be an option to be cold like being rude or something. Just to be awkward and reserved towards them. They are kinda strangers now and considering all the experiences it is even fitting that MC is not very keen on physical contact and showing emotions.
At least some people would like to play like this way and despite the option to reset personality, it doesn't really matter. It's clear that the author has preferences regarding MC's behavior.