We should give Rywd a pass considering it still updates and does have content but the rest? Lmfao totes get it especially the abyssal
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I’m dying I called it, author of gods and villains really returned to COG forums to say he lost his Tumblr made a new one and promoted it then disappeared again lol. They really do just love answering asks.
I don't know whoever started the Patreon If crap, but I wish they didn't it's sullied the waters with quick cash grab IF wannabe writers.
As I’ve heard from VN community it seems like this. If you are going to make a VN or an IF you need to know these things. Your PC/Laptop will 100% die, your relatives health will be in jeopardy, your pets health will be in jeopardy, your health with be in jeopardy. You will get a sudden inspiration to make some changes to the start of your story so a rewrite will be needed. Your mental health will plummet (okay I’ll give a pass to this one). The thing is all this will not start happening until you get a big fanbase and community, then suddenly blam you have to delay, you really will try to make it so no more setting deadlines for yourself.
The same patreon problem has existed for way longer in VN communities as someone else mentioned, but I think for the IF community, it was mainly normalised by Sera (Wayhaven author) in particular and the sheer popularity of Wayhaven. Which makes a lot of sense when you think about it lol, because Sera started off by making VNs before she became an IF author. But yeah I'd say she was kinda the 'gateway' to normalising it, so to speak lol, especially once people saw how successful her patreon was and without a doubt hoped to replicate even a fraction of that success. Last I checked, she was making like 9k-10k per month consistently.
Which is low-key undeserved and I can't wrap my head around it lmao but that's another subject. 
But yeah, from what I've seen, even other popular and well known authors that make less than her still tend to make a decent amount of money per month, like anywhere from 4k to 8k. Which is still like... absurdly successful considering so many of them don't even have a FULL published game yet and are milking their demos lmfao. Admittedly, I have a love hate relationship with Wayhaven lol and I can't say I've ever been super impressed with Sera's patreon content bc I've subbed to it a few times. BUT for her at least it can be said that she posts consistently - Patreon content, writing updates, answering asks, etc. And ofc, the most important thing: she has actual completed games and has proven that she can finish a game in a reasonable amount of time lol (2-3 years). So you can generally be pretty confident in the fact that she will finish the series, if nothing else. Yeah the bar is on the floor ik lmao to the point where being able to finish a book and updating your readers on your writing progress is considered a net benefit rather than the bare minimum 
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Thanks for letting me know, I just wish it was more of a, "if you wish to donate then do so" what Kofi kinda used to be, or better yet stop trying to make money off of "your passion" not everything needs to be sidehustle. I just don't get how people are willing to pay up to £15.00 a month or higher for a little bit of smut?!? Like you could literally buy a book or two a month if your that desperate.The same patreon problem has existed for way longer in VN communities as someone else mentioned, but I think for the IF community, it was mainly normalised by Sera (Wayhaven author) in particular and the sheer popularity of Wayhaven. Which makes a lot of sense when you think about it lol, because Sera started off by making VNs before she became an IF author. But yeah I'd say she was kinda the 'gateway' to normalising it, so to speak lol, especially once people saw how successful her patreon was and without a doubt hoped to replicate even a fraction of that success. Last I checked, she was making like 9k-10k per month consistently.
But wont pause their patreon will still ask for money even when they provide nothing. I don't know if it worst that some IF authors are scammers or, that people still fall for the scam. One of the IF authors I don't like and disappointed in is Dakota Smith has 4 IF most of them haven't been updated in a couple of years but still has paid patreon subscribers. It's boggles me.
dakota is the worst offender among these paid IFs, just below the author of the abyssal, 4 wips and none even reached double digit chapters atp i don't even know if they're alive
I wouldn't be surprised if they're a twitter grifter too
*Bluesky
Someone like them wouldn't be caught dead in Elon's playground(even if nothing changed beyond Elon owning X)
Nah they'd get banned there bluesky somehow managed to gather every insufferable tumblr-twitter user it's so woke over there ppl have discourse for the most non-serious problems to ever exist lmfao
Almost like if you segregate problematic people who think they aren't the problem, you get a cess-pool filled with problems.
Something something leopard ate my face, always makes me laugh
I don't put much attention to it but I heard Bluesky is now banning non-con (as in r*pe) contents and the users there don't take the news very well
So like what happened to Tumblr with its CP take-downs I guess. I mean sure there are contents of non-con that is serious and focused about the mental health issues but let's be real most of it are fetishizing literal r*pe scenarious 
And of course they gotta throw the overly abused excuse of "it's fictional so it's okay" or "victims read non-con as a coping mechanism" like sure but that's not a healthy cope and just straight up self-harm, you're not healing the scar by continously scratching on it and reliving it BFR. And it being fictional don't matter really cause what kinda of whacko would create and enjoy non-cons/CPs? Psychos, degenerates, with very thin and fragile self-control. This got me heated very much but I think it's justified cause WTF
I dunno bro i think I'd rather believe the psychologists and therapist that has a degree and licensed on what counts and doesn't count as a healthy coping mechanisms. Like they do in fact have studies over this and ngl u sound like those gta causes violence moms circa 2000s lolI don't put much attention to it but I heard Bluesky is now banning non-con (as in r*pe) contents and the users there don't take the news very well
The studies go all the way back to the 1980s. Besides, the whole point of using dark fiction as therapy is having control over your emotions and what happens. If you become uncomfortable reading a non-con story, you can close it. The lack of consent and control is one of the many ways that makes r*pe so traumatizing in real life.
On another topic: They're releasing a Hunter: The Reckoning story. My hype lasted as long as it took for me to read the description. Getting beat up by vampire cops in a homeless camp? Seriously? This already sounds like another Book of Hungry Names than a Night Road.
I'm not saying stories shouldn't have political elements but if I wanted to be preached to, I'd go to a church not read a story about werewolves/hunting vampires.
I'm not saying stories shouldn't have political elements but if I wanted to be preached to, I'd go to a church not read a story about werewolves/hunting vampires.
Let's be real everyone wants to be Suzanne Collins but end up like the author of divergence lmfao
Yeah my interest died real quick...i didnt even like Book of Hungry Names
The Hunger Games is so good because it's riddled with nuance. Not everyone in the resistance was good, and not everyone in the capitol was baby kicking villains. The problem with stories like Book of Hungry Names is that it's written by (often white) Americans in online leftist echo chambers huffing their own farts who see everything in black and white. Where black is the 'people' (let's be real these types don't see anyone who disagrees with them as human) who don't agree with them and white is themselves and the people who hold all of the same views as they do and nothing less than 100% or else you don't actually hold those views and belong with the rest of the savages in black. To write nuance is to recognize that no one's perfect and everyone can be a bigot and hold bigoted views, which means not seeing yourself as a perfect moral pedestal that could never be wrong. Which is a tall order for these types.
This will be a long but you read IFs and have better reading comprehension than half of the population so really this should be a piece of cake.
You see, that's the result of having a good therapist to guide you through the whole process of regaining control of your emotions and what you experienced.
I've been through that sh*t and "coped" by consuming some weird contents (they're not all disturbing or dark, some are just strange and surreal but it clicks in my brain) and it doesn't do anything but make it worse and more depressing because I was alone and there was no one to guide me through what I felt.
Different people need different coping mechanisms and therapy, even a professional wouldn't recommend this treatment if they deem it unbeneficial for their patient.
You get what I mean or am I just a crazy 2000s mom getting scared of video games and taboo contents? Are we really pretending that the media we're feeding on don't have impactful effects on our psychology? And are we just going to wilfully assume that people are reading non-cons and such in a healthy way to heal and take control of their trauma? How many people have the privilege to get a good therapist who is actually helping them? Is it ethical really for someone who hasn't experience anything close to SA to be writing a fetishistic story about r*pe?
Yeah, I can close it if it makes me uncomfortable, I had after a long struggle. You can close it. He can close it. She can close it. They can close it. But what about the people that can't? What about the people who are too far gone? You do realize those non-cons are basically written p*rn right? And people can get addicted to it. The line between coping and addiction is thin and need to be treaded carefully.
I admit I should've been more clearer in my posting above but I was riding on emotions (still am ngl) so I decided to cool down and cut it short before it turns into a rambling. Though seeing how it was misinterpreted now, maybe I really should've rambled on about how what I meant was; predators also like to create and enjoy these non-cons and overall dark disturbing stories or arts as a mockery towards their victims, a self-fulfillment fantasy, as a way to find the perfect victim, and such. Just look at how Epstein proudly displayed the first published book of Lolita by Nabokov, a story written by an author who was abused as a study and reflection of the kind of pure evil that would hurt a child.
See where I'm going? It feels like I'm talking to a wall. Like I never even said that non-con stories shouldn't exist, or that everyone shouldn't consume it. I was complaining about how the "victims use it as coping" is a very abused and misunderstood excuse they throw when sh*t like these are criticized and you are doing that right now.
Coping isn't always a good thing, without the right directions they can become an addiction and worsen an already bad situation. Self harm isn't also just physical, it can be mental. Like telling yourself over and over that you're not worthy, you're better off dead, or by reliving the pain you experience before.
I may not be a therapist, though I know what it feels like to be the patient that needs it (can't afford one, forced to fix my problems myself lol). And I'm sure you already know about all of this and really there's no point of me telling it to you again but I just want to make sure that you understand that I know it too. I don't throw words around willy-nilly even when I'm emotional. But I do get tired fast so that's it. I hope I've made myself clear, I'll be grateful if you get the points but if you don't then you don't and if that's the case then keep your peace and I'll keep mine.
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