Where can one grab the Dharmic Wheel technique? Edit: fight Daichi and advance Aoyusumu at the time
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Again - you are arguing from an in-universe perspective. The initial training is only easier because Anon wanted it to be. I am not arguing that it doesn't make sense - I'm saying what we got was lackluster, especially compared to the other two training scenes.
To be clear, if Eldra's scenes weren't replacing her training scenes, I would be fine with them. I don't hate slice of life stuff. But this story is a cultivation story, it's the genre of story where people training and getting stronger is explicitly what people come to see. Though I guess I'm in the minority here.
Saying that’s the only explicit thing people come to see in a cultivation genre is oversimplifying it. This is an IF, if it bothers you that Eldra didn’t have an initial training scene, you can always choose another master. And like I said before, she literally can’t train you while your cores are damaged. Yes, that’s an in-universe explanation, but outside of that it’s simply because the author has probably already more or less planned what Eldra’s training will be like, and it involves using Chi and balancing your body and mind and all that—which can’t happen if your cores are damaged and again, the first “training” with all the Masters was simply meant to restore your damaged cores. And yes, with Eldra it’s much easier because that’s how the author intended it, it shows how OP her foundation is, to the point that you don’t even have to do anything complicated to recover. Her scene has people who like it and people who don’t, like you. You have two other options, so again, the scenes aren’t boring, they’re just not to your taste.
Also, in a cultivation story there are many ways to become stronger besides training, like finding artifacts, getting external help, etc. So I think what you really don’t like is that the MC didn’t have to train with Eldra to recover. It’s fine if you didn’t like the scene, but stating outright that it’s boring and everything, as if it were a fact rather than a personal opinion, is wrong.
What is everyone's favourite core restoration method by the way? I like that Kaito's scene is basically Goku in the time chamber with Gohan lol. And hunting for artifacts with Yang was fun. I thought we'd be able to use the tattoos by default and wouldn't need to "choose" it from the 3 options though.
I'm thinking about not choosing Eldra because I don't want her to steal my exp by killing Tenkairyu, but she's objectively the best person to train under and I want harmony in my arsenal...
I'm thinking about not choosing Eldra because I don't want her to steal my exp by killing Tenkairyu, but she's objectively the best person to train under and I want harmony in my arsenal...
For me it's harmony training simply because of the 100 percent output talk it has I am not talking about the time reversal thing just the output stuff Eldra talked about that people are stuck at like 90 percent output it means that 10 percent output gives you a big edge it's true for her already when Anon talked about her that 19k ap for her is stronger than someone else 19k ap that 10 percent extra efficiency over others makes the big difference and would only be more of a difference as the mc grows stronger we only were shown to breathe right or position right because it is supposed to be boring and frustrating it also reminds me of god ki.
For Mc especially a Mido one already does all the physical toiling and pretty much entire kaito's kit and training is redundant for a Mido MC so that's why for me it's Eldra's training also Dragon Nest , third element or healing ability are good options to pick from and yeah the downtime during her training reminds me of 9 days goku and gohan had post Hyperbolic time chamber training during Cell Saga.
For Mc especially a Mido one already does all the physical toiling and pretty much entire kaito's kit and training is redundant for a Mido MC so that's why for me it's Eldra's training also Dragon Nest , third element or healing ability are good options to pick from and yeah the downtime during her training reminds me of 9 days goku and gohan had post Hyperbolic time chamber training during Cell Saga.
Meanwhile as an Aoyusumu I'm pretty sure I get healing touch, so one of her abilities is redundant. I also prefer the scene variant where you beat down white tiger using prayers against him rather than jade chi, I wish it got priority over that.
I'm also not sure I need flayed god because I already have 3 health bars you need to go through before you beat me. (Normal health, human racial tech, godhand full heal) and Sakura with 7000+AP did like 3 damage to me at most so I'm not concerned about survivability.
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What other techniques you can use against Jack other than the Last dream?
Mist clone for monkey yokai and release the dragon medallion for Kiihakai
Tbf even if you consider all the bonuses of each training types as equal, Eldra gets an edge because you are gonna lose a ship and retainers if you choose anyone else.
I mean I don't mind it too much but I was pretty close to choosing Zhao Yang as a trainer since I play Kiihakai even if the limited runes needed activation(compared to +1 all skills with Eldra) but losing that ship and people convinced me to choose Eldra instead. It honestly is a weird choice because thats one less Akuma lord to worry about which seems like a pretty big deal and might cause major story changes, while it could just be fixed by having Eldra show up for every path anyways. Though it might be a bit early to judge. Who knows, maybe in the future if you choose Eldra you don't get to loot Tenkairyu's dragon hoard or something.
Btw does having the catfish spirit to defend your fleet prevent that loss? Having an element pact doesn't seem to do anything but having some way to prevent that loss would be nice.
Is anyone even having trouble with manpower right now? Tenkairyu's attack is nothing more than a minor inconvenience. I'm surprised he didn't fart and destroy the rest of my fleet while he was at it.
I don't think so. Having it block a 15k+ AP attack would be weird anyway.
Aoyu healing is the weakest Among the 3 so It should actually help
Kii>water>Aoyu for healing output
As for the flayed god part I agree that said Sakura wasn't 7000+ ap the White tiger was when she hits 7000+ ap she pretty much gets taken over by the White tiger who was with a big hole in it's body so we didn't truly fight or beat a 7000+ ap thing still we only needed to hit that weak spot .I agree tho builds that are good will not need flayed god but imo builds that aren't strong will deffo have a good time with kaito's foundation+ that conqueror's training part so sub par builds will be able to atleast survive fights if not win the later fights that are supposed to be harder.
As a concept?
Kaito's training is the best because the idea of being basically immortal seems incredible.
But as for abilities?
Eldra wins hands down. Forget the techniques she gives us; the mere fact that she gives us a point in every ability is monstrous.
Not really but that might change if Clan Management is introduced in the next chapter now that we have a whole island. Also those are people of our clan who just died.
Besides the point is less about it being a "big" enough loss and more about there being a loss in the first place for not choosing Eldra. It would be one thing if Eldra had the worst foundation option among the three but she is without a doubt the best to choose right now.
If you had to choose between a nicely paved road which gives you an extra item or a road full of thorns which reduces your health and then removes one of your item, would you ever choose the latter?
In any choice based game, a choice like this needs to feel worth it in all paths but Eldra's bonuses seem much better on the surface while you also face an unpreventable loss in the same chapter you have to make this decision. That makes it feel unfair.
I mean all these complains are about the now anyways. It will in the end depend on how everything progresses in the future. Like I said, in the future the things you gain from other paths might be better but I still think it's worth mentioning anyways.
I mean I doubt he used 100% of his powers to deal with what would be ants in his eyes. It doesn't have to be a head on block anyways. Just having it save the retainers atleast would be nice or having it use Tidal waves to push the ships away causing the mc to fall over and be picked would be okay too since he is only here for the mc anyways.
If that was the intention, why even bother with the rest period of doing nothing in the first place - why not just have her instantly heal us?
Having us do nothing shows us nothing about how powerful the JDF is because literally nothing about it is described or elaborated on about the process. It still takes the same rest period as the others.
Yeah? That's been my argument from the very beginning. What do you think I was talking about?
But even then, I brought up other options that would make the free time more interesting - like having John/Jane Auraclash realize that they need to actually appreciate their family more because they're the only people who actually cared about them before they became powerful (which would be a nice segway into the clan management stuff next chapter anyway). Eldra brought up that stuff but only as a joke - and I think it would have been more interesting to explore that stuff more seriously.
Someone earlier talked about the MC having to maintain "perfect harmony" during mundane everyday activities and I really liked that idea.
You could basically ignore the Eldra training scenes and nothing would be missed in the story. I haven't done a JDF playthrough yet but it seems her interactions there are a little more substantive? But even so, that changes nothing about my criticism because JDF isn't the default version of the story.
Okay - let's put this another way. Is there anyone who would dislike Eldra's option or find it less attractive if the free time spent interacting with other NPCs was instead replaced with training more in line with the other two mentors? Keeping the JDF content intact of course. If you do, could you explain why?
This too. If you're doing Mortal Limits, she's basically the only correct choice.
Kaito hands down yeah. Flayed God is kinda eh - things could totally change in the future, but I rarely find myself getting wounded in the first place even on Mortal Limits and the game sometimes penalizes you for getting wounded as well. But his training segments were the most fun for me.
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We're nowhere near being able to kill Tenkairyu, so she is not "stealing" anything from you.
Zhao Yang. Both, for RP and mechanics. Without the bloody foundation I'll most definitely die eventually and, playing with Lunargoth, the sheer potential of the amped Runic seals(+2 to each Core and Skill) is good too.
And yes, I also don't like about Tenkairyu dying. Not even that I feel Eldra is stealing our future kill, but rather that I just feel wrong such a strong and important being dying this early(Not that I'd choose Eldra either way, Tenkairyu dying is just one more reason).
What Shakengara is supposed to do
. Poor thing isn't even 3,000 AP, it would just die.Lower disciple behavior
Tenkairyu is like a book 4 villain for mc even if he doesn't get stronger that said I don't think he is living till book 4 and will likely get murked in book 2 by some other powerful Person I am more interested that since he can die who gets his shard dome as each shard dome is basically a 2000 ap cap boost .If some other DP takes it they get additional 2k cap if Orochi takes it then Orochi's ap cap will become 28k ap as it would mean Orochi has 4 shard domes.
Dead frog in a well behaviour.
You're fundamentally misunderstanding how overwhelming advantages are portrayed.
If JDF is truly overpowered, forcing the MC to go through a grueling, traditional recovery process act would actually contradict that no?
The absence of struggle IS the feat here imo.
It shows a massive gap in tier compared to the other mentors.
If you have a perfectly optimized foundation or top-tier passive recovery, you don't need active physical ****...your body does the heavy lifting passively. The mundane recovery isn't some missing scenes, it's really Eldra flexing how powerful she is lol!
Yes, absolutely. Because it destroys path variety, which an Interactive Fiction is all about.
The entire point of offering different mentors is to provide distinct narrative experiences. If Eldra’s training is brought "in line" with the other two, she loses her unique identity as the unconventional OP mentor. A lot of players explicitly choose routes with more "free time" because they want to focus on NPC interactions rather than just grinding
Standardizing the mentor routes just because, will just turn the game boring.
Also saying "you could basically ignore the Eldra scenes and nothing would be missed" is just false. You'd miss:
The worldbuilding about different valid paths in cultivation...AGAIN not everything has to be about blood and struggle.
And the characterization of Eldra herself.
Disliking the scene because it didn't feel like "real training" to YOU is valid as personal taste. Claiming it's objectively bad, skippable, or implying that is bad writing because it doesn't match the other two scenes...is just ehhh
Different strokes for different folks. Some people like the chill, OP mentor vibe. Others prefer the stereotypical training montages like you.
Pretending only one is valid because it feels like an real cultivator training or whatever is the real oversimplification here.
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