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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

Sov

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I also don't think Ruo will reach that level of power immediately after moving up to PH. Here let's deal with it mathematically:

In the scene where Ruo invades the training room and punches the MC, if the MC has 9k in constitution he doesn't take any damage, he just spits a little blood, you could argue that it wasn't all of Ruo's strength, but I doubt it was far from it. So we can assume that Ruo's stats are between 8k and 9k and that he stays in the top 10 with pure superior technique and Martial Arts, without using the transformation, this means that he has around 70% more power than he should have as a LH.

Under these circumstances, if he advanced and his strength exploded to its PH limit, he would have 17k in stats. However, I believe that at the moment of advancement his strength doesn't go directly to the limit, instead let's assume that it goes at most halfway (11k~12k). It's impressive, but still nothing unbeatable for MC and other of the more powerful PHs.

The problem is his transformation, we can't tell how much his stats increase, on the one hand he was able to hurt LC as a MH, on the other he wasn't able to defeat four PH as a LH. Since the incident with the rogues is more recent and since MC as a MH was also able to hurt LC, I'll consider that the transformation doesn't actually double Ruo's stats (I refuse to believe that a transformed Ruo with at least 16k is unable to deal with four rogues), instead it at least increases them by 60%.

Under these circumstances, right after advancing to PH, transformed Ruo would at most be able to show stats of 19.2k. Higher than any PH, but certainly not at the level of an EX, these guys should have at least 30k~40k.
MC was LH power wise during the tournament and could only hurt LC with the big GS attack, which shouldn’t be included. You are also assuming that the PH's Ruo faced were average, and you are forgetting the added advantages of knowing absolutely everything about Ruo. At the final fight with MC, he should be more powerful than other PH's including Yang Gan, someone who has a 10k stat without his transformation.

The main problem with your calculations is that we don’t know how much Ruo stats will increase upon ascension and you are ignoring the story element which is that this advancement would be extremely lame and pointless regarding preventing a wipeout by Qi Sea EX advancement MC in the final fight. You also have to consider the statement that both Ruo and MC will be EX by the end of the book so Ruo would have to advance to another realm extremely quickly after the tourney
 
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Arlonb

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MC was LH power wise during the tournament and could only hurt LC with the big GS attack, which shouldn’t be included. You are also assuming that the PH's Ruo faced were average, and you are forgetting the added advantages of knowing absolutely everything about Ruo. At the final fight with MC, he should be more powerful than other PH's including Yang Gan, someone who has a 10k stat without his transformation.

The main problem with your calculations is that we don’t know how much Ruo stats will increase upon ascension and you are ignoring the story element which is that this advancement would be extremely lame and pointless regarding preventing a wipeout by Qi Sea EX advancement MC in the final fight. You also have to consider the statement that both Ruo and MC will be EX by the end of the book so Ruo would have to advance to another realm extremely quickly after the tourney

The big GS attack can be included, not for the blow itself, but from what we know of LC, he wasn't much for a top 10, in terms of stats, which means that the fact that Ruo and MC were able to hurt him doesn't mean much, probably a lucky strike from someone with 7k~8k would have a similar effect.

As for the rogues, I didn't consider them to be average, they were probably Demon Execution Squad level at least. What makes me lower the supposed power of the transformation is not the fact that Ruo didn't win, after all I know the guys were prepared (I think I've commented on this before), but the fact that Ruo transformed and ended up almost dead without even eliminating one of the rogues, two of whom even got out unharmed.

As for the last point, I agree, my calculations are just estimates of what I've seen. I am unable to predict how much the author will increase Ruo's power when he advances. After all, he needs to do something so that Ruo doesn't take a terrible beating, one way is to nerf Qi Sea, another way is to buff Ruo.

No problem with the long text lol and yeah the power up between EX and PH are too big
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Kamisama

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I'm pretty sure mc is a top dog rn. Yet there is somethings some of you didn't think. A lot of you have been using the DES fight has a argument for mc power. But that only happens with evil mcs. There's nothing confirmed for other moralities mcs. (Maybe evil mc is cannon, even on that gray memorie after we woke up from coma, mc is power hungry and killed a lot of people. It alligns with evil mc and it surely comes from the future.
 

Sov

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The big GS attack can be included, not for the blow itself, but from what we know of LC, he wasn't much for a top 10, in terms of stats, which means that the fact that Ruo and MC were able to hurt him doesn't mean much, probably a lucky strike from someone with 7k~8k would have a similar effect.

As for the rogues, I didn't consider them to be average, they were probably Demon Execution Squad level at least. What makes me lower the supposed power of the transformation is not the fact that Ruo didn't win, after all I know the guys were prepared (I think I've commented on this before), but the fact that Ruo transformed and ended up almost dead without even eliminating one of the rogues, two of whom even got out unharmed.

As for the last point, I agree, my calculations are just estimates of what I've seen. I am unable to predict how much the author will increase Ruo's power when he advances. After all, he needs to do something so that Ruo doesn't take a terrible beating, one way is to nerf Qi Sea, another way is to buff Ruo.

LC was the strongest PH in the world even more powerful than Yang Gan and BH. His main thing is his durability which would be increased even more in his Proto X state which is why it took Xiwen + Ruo weakening him and a EX injuring bomb for him to lose. GS was weaker but probably not that far behind the bomb

There is no way author will be taking the first option of weakening Qi Sea
 

Sov

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I'm pretty sure mc is a top dog rn. Yet there is somethings some of you didn't think. A lot of you have been using the DES fight has a argument for mc power. But that only happens with evil mcs. There's nothing confirmed for other moralities mcs. (Maybe evil mc is cannon, even on that gray memorie after we woke up from coma, mc is power hungry and killed a lot of people. It alligns with evil mc and it surely comes from the future.
There isn't any divide story wise for mc strength based on your moralities and there is no cannon which is why that vision was gray meaning it might not actually happen because the future is uncertain
 
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Arlonb

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LC was the strongest PH in the world even more powerful than Yang Gan and BH. His main thing is his durability which would be increased even more in his Proto X state which is why it took Xiwen + Ruo weakening him and a EX injuring bomb for him to lose. GS was weaker but probably not that far behind the bomb

There is no way author will be taking the first option of weakening Qi Sea
As far as I've read, it's stated that Long Chen was the most powerful PH, but only because he was invincible thanks to his regeneration, it is said that he literally defeated people by letting himself be beaten until they got tired. In He Mei's pov it's even said that the Vampire was superior and LC only won because he was an immortal cockroach.

What is "Proto x state"? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the name.
 
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lilvar27

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As far as I've read, it's stated that Long Chen was the most powerful PH, but only because he was invincible thanks to his regeneration, it's said that he literally beat people by letting himself beat them until they got tired. In He Mei's pov it's even said that the Vampire was superior and LC only won because he was an immortal cockroach.

What is "Proto x state"? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the name.
Proto x is when LC was in the danger zone and he halfway advanced to EX and gained the abilities but wasn’t able to officially breakthrough
 

Benu

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i think what @Benu is saying is that due to qi, we come off as a ph with power alone but based off qi cultivations standards,we might not be ph yet,this is very possibly so since ruo is supposedly still a lh and mc rn should be equivalent to her if she doesnt use stuff like her transfo or cracked stuff,so the demon executing squad mission might truly be a way to make the mc truly ascend to ph/get the feeling we had when we absorbed the first qi stone narrative wise and when we get back to the sect,we might hear that ruo has ascended to ph too or might ascend during the tourney
yeah in terms of power mc def is ph but qi stages are really vague theres not a measure of it, like how far are we on the realm? do we have the same benefits of aura that long chen had when he was one step away from xiantian? we already possess the conditions to ascend to qi sea? how does one ascend at this point? i just feel that qi cultivation is too vague to stamp mc as a late houtian or peak houtian regardless of how powerfull he is
 

Sov

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yeah in terms of power mc def is ph but qi stages are really vague theres not a measure of it, like how far are we on the realm? do we have the same benefits of aura that long chen had when he was one step away from xiantian? we already possess the conditions to ascend to qi sea? how does one ascend at this point? i just feel that qi cultivation is too vague to stamp mc as a late houtian or peak houtian regardless of how powerfull he is
Again "qi stages are really vague" because it doesn't exist and is just one giant realm. There is no PH or LH equivalent stage for Qi refining and that isn't me speculating
 

Sov

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As far as I've read, it's stated that Long Chen was the most powerful PH, but only because he was invincible thanks to his regeneration, it is said that he literally defeated people by letting himself be beaten until they got tired. In He Mei's pov it's even said that the Vampire was superior and LC only won because he was an immortal cockroach.

What is "Proto x state"? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the name.
The only time mc managed to hurt LC was with the bomb/GS attack and even that is only possible with the perception pill so you can't ignore the blow and say that we can hurt him unlike Ruo. You are referring to normal LC which is weaker than Proto X in the expo which should be stronger in everything including durability.
 

Arlonb

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The only time mc managed to hurt LC was with the bomb/GS attack and even that is only possible with the perception pill so you can't ignore the blow and say that we can hurt him unlike Ruo. You are referring to normal LC which is weaker than Proto X in the expo which should be stronger in everything including durability.
The perception pill is just that, a pill that increases perception, the other stats remain the same, which is why I said that a lucky hit from someone with 7k~8k would probably have the same effect.

As for LC, he was certainly more powerful at the time, because he was able to use the "aura" of the Xantians, LC himself said that his body was still a PH, meaning that his overall power was higher, but his bodily power remained the same.

Under normal circumstances, I believe that neither the MC nor Ruo could hurt LC, but the fact is that LC was only worried about Xiwen, he didn't expect anything from Ruo and even less from the MC. Ruo's attack that severed LC's head was a sneak attack and the MC's attack that exploded LC's head was somewhat of a surprise too, he probably never imagined that the MC would threaten him, he probably chose to ignore it, when it was already on its way.
 

Sov

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The perception pill is just that, a pill that increases perception, the other stats remain the same, which is why I said that a lucky hit from someone with 7k~8k would probably have the same effect.

As for LC, he was certainly more powerful at the time, because he was able to use the "aura" of the Xantians, LC himself said that his body was still a PH, meaning that his overall power was higher, but his bodily power remained the same.

Under normal circumstances, I believe that neither the MC nor Ruo could hurt LC, but the fact is that LC was only worried about Xiwen, he didn't expect anything from Ruo and even less from the MC. Ruo's attack that severed LC's head was a sneak attack and the MC's attack that exploded LC's head was somewhat of a surprise too, he probably never imagined that the MC would threaten him, he probably chose to ignore it, when it was already on its way.
Do you mean the 7-8k attack having the same effect as GS/bomb? Also I think we lost point of this overall conversation which is about Ruo transfo not LC damage. Mc stats and GS are separate so you can't include MH MC and MH Ruo as being the same for why his transfo isn't actually that strong

His body still had a boost even though it was still

It was more a matter of LC being weakened by Ruo and Xiwen so he was unable to react
 
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