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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

Right, I did remember the 120-130 floor for Xiantians, but is 150 really also bad for them?

I know that at this point it is useless to apply any kind of consistent logic to Niki's statements, but I assumed that 10 increments were still the stepping stones within the stages.

So without any Arts, buffs, artifacts etc. :

  • Mortal 1-10
  • Early Houtian 10-20
  • Middle Houtian 20-30
  • Late Houtian 30-40
  • Peak Houtian 40-50
  • Early Xiantian 120(30) - 150
And so on. I think it makes sense that even the strongest natural PH would be a lot weaker than a absolutely trash natural EX, because of the stage transition. But maybe for Xiantians and all following stages the differences between Early, Middle, Late, and Peak would be more pronounced.

So:

  • Early Xiantian 120(30) - 150
  • Middle Xiantian 150 - 180
  • Late Xiantian 180 - 210
  • Peak Xiantian - 210 - 240
God, I hate how Niki's numbers make no sense if you look at them all together. The Houtian progression is pretty clean, but then for whatever reason Xiantians start at 120 or 130 for some reason instead of a nice number like 100 or 150. Maybe it's something like the limits increase 2x when you go from Mortal to Houtian, 3x when you go from Houtian to Xiantian, and 4x when you go from Xiantian to Shangtian.
I think xiantian should be times 2 of houtians because I could see an average early xiantian holding his own against 2 or 3 peak houtains
 
I think xiantian should be times 2 of houtians because I could see an average early xiantian holding his own against 2 or 3 peak houtains
Yeah would make sense, but the stats apparently show otherwise.

Idk how it works frankly, since the increase appears to be closer to 3x that 2x and besides that the MC with 80-100 in all stats (which is apparently nowhere close to a trash EX) can solo the 3v3, where he not only holds his own but completely demolishes the strongest pair of PH and another ranked 4 PH giving them no chance to win at all.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if an average EX can beat like 10-15 strong PH with middle difficulty.

Also just remembered but in the first stage of the tourney can’t the MC solo like 15 average PH already? By that logic even 50 average PH wouldn’t be able to handle an average EX.

My head hurts…
 
Yeah would make sense, but the stats apparently show otherwise.

Idk how it works frankly, since the increase appears to be closer to 3x that 2x and besides that the MC with 80-100 in all stats (which is apparently nowhere close to a trash EX) can solo the 3v3, where he not only holds his own but completely demolishes the strongest pair of PH and another ranked 4 PH giving them no chance to win at all.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if an average EX can beat like 10-15 strong PH with middle difficulty.

Also just remembered but in the first stage of the tourney can’t the MC solo like 15 average PH already? By that logic even 50 average PH wouldn’t be able to handle an average EX.

My head hurts…
Wu Heir is an extremely special case with Dao and Qi affording him a lot more flexibility in handling opponents than Inner Energy users, it's also not literal poison to your body and development (or atleast that's what Tang Wei says)
 
Wu Heir is an extremely special case with Dao and Qi affording him a lot more flexibility in handling opponents than Inner Energy users, it's also not literal poison to your body and development (or atleast that's what Tang Wei says)
Fair enough, but you can solo all of them, including Chu Muchen and the Twins, with just your body. Besides the point still stands because of the comparison to a Xiantian. Even if the MC is special in this case, just comparing body alone to Xiantians and the fact that they have at a minimum 120-130 stats, means that any bum Xiantian can easily handle 30+ average PHs with their stats alone. Now if it was like before the update, where you were sometimes forced to use Dao even with super high stats in some fights I think you would be right.

But if we purely compare numbers - an MC with 60-70 in physical stats can beat a dozen or more average PHs without using Dao or Qi at all during the free for all stage of the tourney. So by that logic if a Xiantian has 130 in all stats, they should be able to handle 30 if not more average PHs just physically.

Although I will mention that Niki seems to be adding the purely physical options last because during the Ruo POV after this solo at the end of the first stage, he comments on how your spells and Dao allow you to win egardless of whether you actually used it or not. So I think it might be another case of Nikki adding something but originally intending something else and what we get is the current state of PoMA scaling.
 
Also with how crazy Nicky's statements are it's likely an EX can handle some insane batshit number of PHs like 35-40.
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I think Niki intended for Qi and Dao to be necsessary during the hard fights, but then he decided to add Body Refining in addition to Qi Cultivation, and now he has to somehow justify the scaling which ends up being incostistent.

This is supported by some body-only options still being unavailable, like the one in the DES fight.
 
Niki reading this will probably go "Holy **** he's right!"
I hope so, but I really doubt it tbh. In the code right now there is nothing to indicate that it will be the case. Niki could theoretically retroactively add some variables that account for crit_checks and whether or not you use the Dao or not, but I don't think that will happen. He usually says when he intends to do something like that.

For now the only variables that will likely affect the POV reactions are how the tourney 3v3 ended. So there's solo_mc for both the Twins and Muchen, devil variations for both Muchen and the Twins, whether you use pellets, poison or powder, whether He Gang helps you or if he solos, and finally whether Yuan Fang used the pellet or not.

Now that's a lot of variability, but it only affects how the 3v3 ends and not what you do during. I think the main deciding factor on how people perceive your achievements will be the Prestige stat since Niki has been including it a lot recently, and also the endings for the tourney stages. But if he sneakily adds in variations based on crit checks or whether you go full body or not, I will be pleasantly surprised.
 
Bro thinks that they will show up to teach MC something new, haha… it’s over for them, there’s actual cultivators offering Wu Heir advice.
Yeah and all of them are dicks except for Yue Fang who is a child and Yue Yan who is in another galaxy. I really hope that whatever Chao gives us in that coffer will be useful and not just a lore dump.

Why is it always so over for the good MCs?

The only good and wholesome RO has been Walt Disney'd, the new one being not physically present as well as being Lawful more than Good, and then all the neutral ones have been either written out or have so little content I sometimes forget they exist at all.

And no, no matter how hot fem-Ruo is, I am not romancing that prick. The perspective on that relationship is either be an Imperialist, which is moronic in itself, or pray that Niki makes it possible to convince Ruo to ascend to a Higher Realm and then still deal with her Dao Child tomfoolery for a million years or however long it takes for the MC to ascend to Godhood.

But knowing Niki, Immortal Emperor Ruo will still somehow be able to match Gods in power despite not being able to become one.
 
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Nah if mc isn't a cu*t then you will have a good relationship too especially as a good mc she isn't arrogant lol she knows how mc is working with barely anything so she will respect the mc lol.Now evil MC's tho or MC's who beef with her for no reason can't really expect her to respect you when you antagonise someone lol.
Plus yue yan goes from worlds to World on daily lol you can't really expect to beat someone who is working so hard lol gotta be the most hard working talent lol.Freak talent,clan backing,Fathe's backing, Sovergien's backing, extremely high experience who knows how many tricks and things she learns from weaker Worlds where people have no choice but to make powerful techniques instead of just maxxing out stats so all that knowledge she is getting.

lol count:)😵‍💫
 
Oh but don't you see? THAT IS THE GLAZE!

For the Wu heir is so monstrously powerful and has so much potential, that the instant he leaves the PoMA world and breathes in his first Qi infused fart on a rich world he will ascend to Godhood!

Truly Niki is a genius among geniuses! Never mind that it took Tang Wei 5-6 million years to become a top tier God, the MC is literally has infinite potential!
the only tiny,microscopic and negligible teeny tiny thing is that YOU WONT SEE IT!! But all you need to know is that it will happen right:LOL:..RIGHT😭??!!
 
Niki reading this will probably go "Holy **** he's right!"
Nah he knows and I bet he has no intention to do it even when we didn't have those critical checks there was enough variance for Wu heir as wu heir always did win.
I will be surprised if we get any variations in the new ones either it will likely be Inner devil(Tang wei's devil),Mc losing and Mc winning no variations between no diffing vs winning by the skin of your teeth niki didn't show variations for non fight povs like ruo or Caihong always cutting off before Actual important part would come so imo only the chao event is interesting everything else will leave us disappointed.
 
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the only tiny,microscopic and negligible teeny tiny thing is that YOU WONT SEE IT!! But all you need to know is that it will happen right:LOL:..RIGHT😭??!!
That is all you need Junior! Knowledge is its own reward! Don't get arrogant! The fact that you get to experience what it is like to be in Tang Ruo's presence at all is a blessing from Tang Wei himself!

And if you curb your arrogance and step on the righteous and honorable Empire path, you might even get one sentence in the Ruo POV where he thinks about how the Wu Heir is now worthy of 15,5% of his power!
 
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