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Path of martial arts: leaked sneak peaks, and discussing thread

Right, I did remember the 120-130 floor for Xiantians, but is 150 really also bad for them?

I know that at this point it is useless to apply any kind of consistent logic to Niki's statements, but I assumed that 10 increments were still the stepping stones within the stages.

So without any Arts, buffs, artifacts etc. :

  • Mortal 1-10
  • Early Houtian 10-20
  • Middle Houtian 20-30
  • Late Houtian 30-40
  • Peak Houtian 40-50
  • Early Xiantian 120(30) - 150
And so on. I think it makes sense that even the strongest natural PH would be a lot weaker than a absolutely trash natural EX, because of the stage transition. But maybe for Xiantians and all following stages the differences between Early, Middle, Late, and Peak would be more pronounced.

So:

  • Early Xiantian 120(30) - 150
  • Middle Xiantian 150 - 180
  • Late Xiantian 180 - 210
  • Peak Xiantian - 210 - 240
God, I hate how Niki's numbers make no sense if you look at them all together. The Houtian progression is pretty clean, but then for whatever reason Xiantians start at 120 or 130 for some reason instead of a nice number like 100 or 150. Maybe it's something like the limits increase 2x when you go from Mortal to Houtian, 3x when you go from Houtian to Xiantian, and 4x when you go from Xiantian to Shangtian.
I think xiantian should be times 2 of houtians because I could see an average early xiantian holding his own against 2 or 3 peak houtains
 
I think xiantian should be times 2 of houtians because I could see an average early xiantian holding his own against 2 or 3 peak houtains
Yeah would make sense, but the stats apparently show otherwise.

Idk how it works frankly, since the increase appears to be closer to 3x that 2x and besides that the MC with 80-100 in all stats (which is apparently nowhere close to a trash EX) can solo the 3v3, where he not only holds his own but completely demolishes the strongest pair of PH and another ranked 4 PH giving them no chance to win at all.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if an average EX can beat like 10-15 strong PH with middle difficulty.

Also just remembered but in the first stage of the tourney can’t the MC solo like 15 average PH already? By that logic even 50 average PH wouldn’t be able to handle an average EX.

My head hurts…
 
Yeah would make sense, but the stats apparently show otherwise.

Idk how it works frankly, since the increase appears to be closer to 3x that 2x and besides that the MC with 80-100 in all stats (which is apparently nowhere close to a trash EX) can solo the 3v3, where he not only holds his own but completely demolishes the strongest pair of PH and another ranked 4 PH giving them no chance to win at all.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if an average EX can beat like 10-15 strong PH with middle difficulty.

Also just remembered but in the first stage of the tourney can’t the MC solo like 15 average PH already? By that logic even 50 average PH wouldn’t be able to handle an average EX.

My head hurts…
Wu Heir is an extremely special case with Dao and Qi affording him a lot more flexibility in handling opponents than Inner Energy users, it's also not literal poison to your body and development (or atleast that's what Tang Wei says)
 
Wu Heir is an extremely special case with Dao and Qi affording him a lot more flexibility in handling opponents than Inner Energy users, it's also not literal poison to your body and development (or atleast that's what Tang Wei says)
Fair enough, but you can solo all of them, including Chu Muchen and the Twins, with just your body. Besides the point still stands because of the comparison to a Xiantian. Even if the MC is special in this case, just comparing body alone to Xiantians and the fact that they have at a minimum 120-130 stats, means that any bum Xiantian can easily handle 30+ average PHs with their stats alone. Now if it was like before the update, where you were sometimes forced to use Dao even with super high stats in some fights I think you would be right.

But if we purely compare numbers - an MC with 60-70 in physical stats can beat a dozen or more average PHs without using Dao or Qi at all during the free for all stage of the tourney. So by that logic if a Xiantian has 130 in all stats, they should be able to handle 30 if not more average PHs just physically.

Although I will mention that Niki seems to be adding the purely physical options last because during the Ruo POV after this solo at the end of the first stage, he comments on how your spells and Dao allow you to win egardless of whether you actually used it or not. So I think it might be another case of Nikki adding something but originally intending something else and what we get is the current state of PoMA scaling.
 
Also with how crazy Nicky's statements are it's likely an EX can handle some insane batshit number of PHs like 35-40.
Yeah that's exactly what I mean. I think Niki intended for Qi and Dao to be necsessary during the hard fights, but then he decided to add Body Refining in addition to Qi Cultivation, and now he has to somehow justify the scaling which ends up being incostistent.

This is supported by some body-only options still being unavailable, like the one in the DES fight.
 
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