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Parallax

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Is it Apt 502? I don't remember the RO with a kid. Tbh, IF's with relationship drama ruin my mental peace. I just feel like there's drama just for the sake of drama. In Infamous, there's just drama after drama after drama and frankly I don't click with any of the our bandmates either. Even ITFO had light hearted moments which actually changed the tone of the story to give a breather. Or maybe I'm just biased against relationship dramas lmao.
Garrett/Gaia [f/m] - Your neighbor. G is friendly but distant, always looking down at their phone when they see you. They seem disinterested in the happenings of Apartment 502. You can't help but wonder more about them...and their young child.

I agree with you. You won't find many IFs set in the modern world that aren't focused on romance and drama 🙄
And I'm really tired of the toxic ROs that authors try to push on me. Convince me how incredibly talented attractive, yet complicated they are so MC has to be a doormat for them.
 

LosLorento

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Omggggggg literally EXACTLY what you said abt rainn. Still, everything else about 502 is perfect so I can ignore allat. But my god, I agree! I was so baffled to see so many people thirsting over rainn and the author actively defending them because what they did was DIABOLICAL imo. THE HUMILIATION, HELLO?? 😭 I still don't have anywhere near as much complains about the IF as much as infamous cuz the writing style and story is juiiiiicy as hell. Like I am okay with a character doing the mc wrong since that is what people are like but I don't understand why said character needs to be coddled and have their actions justified by the author. Like "ohhh yeahh they hurt you but hey!! They could have done much worse so it's really not that bad!!" (How people and the author defend 7 and rainn— like, hey seven went out and deliberately slept around with people you know only shortly after the breakup but at least they didn't cheat right??)

THE BAR IS IN HELL.
Now this isn't me defending Rainn as I wholeheartedly agree their actions were messed up; but I vaguely recall the reason Rainn avoided MC's attempts at communication were the result of them believing they had properly/clearly broken up with the MC (iirc I think the breakup scene explains this too?) over video call - which obviously they hadn't. Also Rainn pulling that and still having the gall to ask to be friends with his now ex the very next day is just insane behavior on their part.

omggg! YES! THANK YOU for mentioning that about 7 towards the end, i wanted to vent about that too but didn't remember the exact details but also i didn't want to waste my energy searching that tumblr post. like, my mc could been mourning for what they had and for what they will never have with 7, but after the ghosting before breakup and then sleeping with mutuals(with some intentions to affect mc if my memory serves me right) after the breakup made me so disgusted, not because they slept with others but due to their intentions and toxicity. that post helped me to come to conclusion that i never want to play 7's route back then(now, i just gave up on that IF overall) and helped my mc to get over 7 and only mourn the time and energy she wasted over someone like 7

And yeah definitely agree about 7, especially for an MC who didn't vote against them (I believe their reaction more if MC did vote them out but they still took the nuclear reaction either way).

Amy has yet to convince me that the band was 1). not acting maliciously as a group against both MC & 7 by blindsiding them with the vote (with friends like the band who needs enemies?) and 2). that 7 didn't overreact towards an MC who chose to stand by them instead of with the band (also 7 is insane if they came out of that situation entirely believing themselves to be the only victim in the debacle).

For that second point even; 7 after the vote, in the author's own words, refused to talk to the MC about how they were actually feeling about it and MC took them at their word (and then 7 blew up at them at the party for believing them). Just straight up exhausting behavior from them lol.

Also I feel like a crazy person whenever Amy says that the ghosting before they broke up with MC doesn't make 7 an ******* and it wasn't a ****ed up thing to do because; hey it was only two weeks to up to a month where they refused to talk to the MC at all before coming back to make it official.

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but after the ghosting before breakup and then sleeping with mutuals(with some intentions to affect mc if my memory serves me right) after the breakup made me so disgusted, not because they slept with others but due to their intentions and toxicity.
You remember right and I believe it's even alluded to in the phone call with MC's mom in the game too. At this point I really don't understand why the game's prologue didn't just start with the band's vote and the as-of-yet unrevealed fight with 7 from the start rather than withholding important background context for half the cast.

Do you think playing it without romance is somehow less interesting (example Wayhaven - you lose a lot when you don't romance anyone)?
I looked through the ROs and there are all the tropes I don't like; rival, distant RO with a kid, boisterous and arrogant, RO with longtime partner, the one who is not interested in relationships and the cherry on top - the perfect ex who made a fool out of you.

Oh my god, I haven't seen a worse cast in a long time.
The game itself probably won't ever be completed honestly just due to the sheer number of career paths that's available to the MC so it's hard to recommend actually playing it unless you were really bored.

I agree with you. You won't find many IFs set in the modern world that aren't focused on romance and drama 🙄
And I'm really tired of the toxic ROs that authors try to push on me. Convince me how incredibly talented attractive, yet complicated they are so MC has to be a doormat for them.
I am still very sad A Comedy of Manors (tho it still had romance but I don't think it was necessary to pursue anyone?) went silent as it was one of the few contemporary IFs that was just cozy and not steeped in drama. It was just an MC, their best friend, and the restoration of a manor in the French countryside while getting to know the locals.
 
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realman

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Do you think playing it without romance is somehow less interesting (example Wayhaven - you lose a lot when you don't romance anyone)?
I looked through the ROs and there are all the tropes I don't like; rival, distant RO with a kid, boisterous and arrogant, RO with longtime partner, the one who is not interested in relationships and the cherry on top - the perfect ex who made a fool out of you.

Oh my god, I haven't seen a worse cast in a long time.
Maybe you'd want to play it later on? I remember the author talking about your best friend being a potential RO (but its a secret route or something??). I might be misremembering if theyre your best friend but i remember the name "Andi", i think. Didn't actually play the wip, so take my words with a grain of salt
 

SasariRomanii

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Hello. Finally, somewhere I can discuss(vent😭). My dislike towards an IF mainly stems from ROs not being held properly accountable for their actions

1. Infamous-everything said here against infamous, I agree. I lost interest in infamous and I don't think this IF is the best for my mental peace, I hate it in IFs when my MC is treated like a doormat unless my mc is given the options to be a complete menace in retaliation


2. This one is a case of "hear me out". Apartment 502. I love, LOVE the writing but Rainn doesn't get enough backlash; rather from the Tumblr asks(I haven't read the recent ones), I feel like they are a bit coddled by both the author and fans, given the gravity of what they did. I will explain. In my playthrough, my mc didn't do relationships or romance or even hookups before Rainn took the initiative. Rainn made effort, took actions which made them seem like a partner on whom mc could depend and rely. My foreign mc chose the option along the lines they weren't sure or this seemed like a bad idea about moving but still decided to move because Rainn convinced her and mc trusted Rainn. But to pull the rug out from under mc when it counted the most is some diabolical ****. I completely respect the breakup reason but I was like-maybe don't convince your partner to move the world for you just to breakup with her after she moved? Before anyone says mc surprised them, Rainn had plenty of opportunities to end things off but no, they were being negligent or avoiding communication (for example, when they still actually wanted to be in a relationship, they made time for mc but before the breakup, when mc texted them, they didn't respond but Rainn responded to their mutual friend, if it was a mistake or a case of not noticing mc's text or being actually busy, that would have been ok but they were intentionally avoiding mc's text. The humiliation I would have felt if my partner did that in front of my friend...) Primarily I don't care that they broke up with mc, but I care about my mc becoming almost homeless and being humiliated publicly. It is cruel and unforgivable for me no matter how intentional or "unintentional" it was. I have no interest in Rainn, they can suffer or burn in hell(yes, I'm vindictive and protective of my mc) but it is the writing style and Atlas for whom I will be reading this IF😌. I know it is too early to tell but after infamous, i kinda get the ick whenever authors coddle particular character... If i pretend i didn't read the tumblr asks, this WIP is fine so far and I have hope for this one unlike infamous
yes. YES. HOLY YES. And Rainn has the audacity to guilt-trip MC saying **** like "don't you know I am human too" (or something along the line) like ***** we're your lover that sticks with you despite long distance relationship and you being a workaholic perfectionist over-achiever *******, say that damn thing to those fake *** Ivy-League-Harvard-RichDaddy's-***** friends of yours you ****ing single-cell-brained egotistical spineless manwh*re.

.... hhhhhhh I've been holding that back for so long.
 

Foulwarden

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yes. YES. HOLY YES. And Rainn has the audacity to guilt-trip MC saying **** like "don't you know I am human too" (or something along the line) like ***** we're your lover that sticks with you despite long distance relationship and you being a workaholic perfectionist over-achiever *******, say that damn thing to those fake *** Ivy-League-Harvard-RichDaddy's-***** friends of yours you ****ing single-cell-brained egotistical spineless manwh*re.

.... hhhhhhh I've been holding that back for so long.
I can't stand how Rainn made my MC look like the abuser/aggressor in front of their coworkers while acting like the VICTIM. They're so full of themselves UGHH. It’s obvious they think a relationship would just get in the way of their work, which is honestly ridiculous (like why be in a relationship in the first place??). Instead of seeing my MC as someone who could support them, they act like they're just a distraction and burden (and **** their Cypertruck its ugly)
 

SasariRomanii

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I can't stand how Rainn made my MC look like the abuser/aggressor in front of their coworkers while acting like the VICTIM. They're so full of themselves UGHH. It’s obvious they think a relationship would just get in the way of their work, which is honestly ridiculous (like why be in a relationship in the first place??). Instead of seeing my MC as someone who could support them, they act like they're just a distraction and burden (and **** their Cypertruck its ugly)
Rainn owns a Cybertruck?! Just when I think they couldn't get worse 🙄 but I guess it makes sense someone like them has one huh

Other than the Rainn problem, Apt. 502 ROs are not interesting imo and that is not good for a supposed romance IF 😕
 

iseizai

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Omggggggg literally EXACTLY what you said abt rainn. Still, everything else about 502 is perfect so I can ignore allat. But my god, I agree! I was so baffled to see so many people thirsting over rainn and the author actively defending them because what they did was DIABOLICAL imo. THE HUMILIATION, HELLO?? 😭 I still don't have anywhere near as much complains about the IF as much as infamous cuz the writing style and story is juiiiiicy as hell. Like I am okay with a character doing the mc wrong since that is what people are like but I don't understand why said character needs to be coddled and have their actions justified by the author. Like "ohhh yeahh they hurt you but hey!! They could have done much worse so it's really not that bad!!" (How people and the author defend 7 and rainn— like, hey seven went out and deliberately slept around with people you know only shortly after the breakup but at least they didn't cheat right??)

THE BAR IS IN HELL.
eggsactly! the way people will bend over backwards to defend rainn and seven is wild as hell. like, yes, complex and morally gray characters make for great storytelling, but there’s a huge difference between acknowledging their flaws and straight-up excusing them. and the mental gymnastics people do to justify their actions?? unreal. “they could have been worse” yeah, and i could have been hit by a bus instead of just getting my wallet stolen, but that doesn’t make it a good time!! like congrats, they didn’t commit actual war crimes, do they want a trophy??

but what really kills me is when the author themselves jumps in to defend them. like, if you’re gonna write a messy, selfish, emotionally damaging character, own it. let them be toxic. let the audience hate them. stop trying to dress them up as poor misunderstood babies who just made a couple oopsie teehee mistakes. if they humiliated, manipulated, or deliberately hurt the mc, let that stand. some people love toxic characters as toxic characters. no one needs them sugarcoated.

and seven??? SEVEN. that was not just moving on, that was straight-up psychological warfare, because they knew exactly what they were doing when they slept with people from mc’s social circle. that was not just “moving on.” that was spite. that was an entire campaign that was intentional. that was calculated. and people really sit here like, “but at least they didn’t cheat!!” as if that somehow cancels out the pure pettiness of it all?? that’s like saying, “well, at least they didn’t commit arson” while they’re actively lighting your house on fire. the bar is underground and they’re still tripping over it.

and rainn?? ohhh don’t even get me started on that walking red flag. imagine being excited to finally move in with your partner, stepping into a brand-new city just to surprise him, only to find out the real surprise is you’re single now! like, bro really waited until the literal moment you showed up to drop the bomb, in a bar no less—public humiliation and heartbreak in one go. and then?? has the absolute audacity to get mad when you react like a normal human being?? sorry, was the mc supposed to just nod and thank him, dab him up and say "good game my g, thanks for the life lesson" for completely blindsiding them?? rainn is the type of dude to set your house on fire and then act offended when you complain about the smoke.

honestly, respect to you for even trying to see where it was going because the second an author starts coddling their awful characters like they’re just misunderstood instead of straight-up selfish, i clock out. let bad characters be bad. let people react how they want to react. if anything, that makes them less compelling because it means the writing is too scared to fully commit.

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On the topic of Author’s coddling their toxic or bad romance options it brings me to my most hated IF. The night market, honestly I played it during the first book hype, and first off I disliked the MC personality, should’ve just made the book you clearly wanted to make. I romanced Bella before I knew her and Gabriel past which kinda put me off, but it was cool I guess problem is I hardly like linear games in the first place. Let’s skip to the thing that threw me off the Milo situation, I’m a petty person so I thought I would be able to get my payback or something in book 2. I check the author tumblr and my hatred skyrockets, oh you won’t be able to do anything? probably forced to make up and forgive poor milo. Everyone who complained about Milo and wanted to do something to him were basically called stupid and illiterate. Remember to respect author’s though even if they don’t respect you and can disrespect you when they feel like. I never said anything I just deleted the game, but I will see their tumblr pop up on my suggested follows on tumblr and scroll a bit and have a little chuckle. It might seem like it was not that deep, but I just dislike that pretentious attitude she has when it comes to any criticism about the night market. Plus the random forced poly is kinda wild. I dislike so many games, but not many times where I can say that I dislike the author too probably under 5.
 

Gone_Dead

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On the topic of Author’s coddling their toxic or bad romance options it brings me to my most hated IF. The night market, honestly I played it during the first book hype, and first off I disliked the MC personality, should’ve just made the book you clearly wanted to make. I romanced Bella before I knew her and Gabriel past which kinda put me off, but it was cool I guess problem is I hardly like linear games in the first place. Let’s skip to the thing that threw me off the Milo situation, I’m a petty person so I thought I would be able to get my payback or something in book 2. I check the author tumblr and my hatred skyrockets, oh you won’t be able to do anything? probably forced to make up and forgive poor milo. Everyone who complained about Milo and wanted to do something to him were basically called stupid and illiterate. Remember to respect author’s though even if they don’t respect you and can disrespect you when they feel like. I never said anything I just deleted the game, but I will see their tumblr pop up on my suggested follows on tumblr and scroll a bit and have a little chuckle. It might seem like it was not that deep, but I just dislike that pretentious attitude she has when it comes to any criticism about the night market. Plus the random forced poly is kinda wild. I dislike so many games, but not many times where I can say that I dislike the author too probably under 5.
I didnt even play it lmao. I read the description and some of the tumblr asks, knew immediately that this is not an IF I would enjoy, or rather this is not an 'Interactive fiction' at all. It has all the things that I absolutely hate in IF's, a useless MC, linear story, railroading and gaslighting the player, and the worst of all, a pretentious author.
 

Vamp-kun

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eggsactly! the way people will bend over backwards to defend rainn and seven is wild as hell. like, yes, complex and morally gray characters make for great storytelling, but there’s a huge difference between acknowledging their flaws and straight-up excusing them. and the mental gymnastics people do to justify their actions?? unreal. “they could have been worse” yeah, and i could have been hit by a bus instead of just getting my wallet stolen, but that doesn’t make it a good time!! like congrats, they didn’t commit actual war crimes, do they want a trophy??

but what really kills me is when the author themselves jumps in to defend them. like, if you’re gonna write a messy, selfish, emotionally damaging character, own it. let them be toxic. let the audience hate them. stop trying to dress them up as poor misunderstood babies who just made a couple oopsie teehee mistakes. if they humiliated, manipulated, or deliberately hurt the mc, let that stand. some people love toxic characters as toxic characters. no one needs them sugarcoated.

and seven??? SEVEN. that was not just moving on, that was straight-up psychological warfare, because they knew exactly what they were doing when they slept with people from mc’s social circle. that was not just “moving on.” that was spite. that was an entire campaign that was intentional. that was calculated. and people really sit here like, “but at least they didn’t cheat!!” as if that somehow cancels out the pure pettiness of it all?? that’s like saying, “well, at least they didn’t commit arson” while they’re actively lighting your house on fire. the bar is underground and they’re still tripping over it.

and rainn?? ohhh don’t even get me started on that walking red flag. imagine being excited to finally move in with your partner, stepping into a brand-new city just to surprise him, only to find out the real surprise is you’re single now! like, bro really waited until the literal moment you showed up to drop the bomb, in a bar no less—public humiliation and heartbreak in one go. and then?? has the absolute audacity to get mad when you react like a normal human being?? sorry, was the mc supposed to just nod and thank him, dab him up and say "good game my g, thanks for the life lesson" for completely blindsiding them?? rainn is the type of dude to set your house on fire and then act offended when you complain about the smoke.

honestly, respect to you for even trying to see where it was going because the second an author starts coddling their awful characters like they’re just misunderstood instead of straight-up selfish, i clock out. let bad characters be bad. let people react how they want to react. if anything, that makes them less compelling because it means the writing is too scared to fully commit.

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Fellas, fellas, fellas... dear folks and fellow loyal citizens of Rome.
You either haven't read enough paranormal romance novels—like Dark-Hunters, or enough Harlequin novels, to understand the sheer thirst these audience have for those types of male romance options.

You can instead do as I did.

You thought that Rainn was a bad guy?
Well, how about switching things up, and play as a male MC — I mean completely male, like 50 Shades level of masculinity and not a -0 bishonen, with Rainn as the workaholic girlfriend!
I can bet, that not a single thing she says will be viewed with the same level.
I mean, she has a career to look for, right?
In the end, it won't really matter, because the book isn't even finished. Much less, the sequels.

Onto Seven from Infamous.
Play as a male ambitious MC — with a stage name Twenty-four, and only a female romanced Seven.
Would her toxicity be the same?

In my playthrough, I liked that angsty girlie Seven. What I didn't know, was the f*cking around with the MC's friends and relatives.
When does that get revealed?
And is Seven remorseful about it?
 

iseizai

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On the topic of Author’s coddling their toxic or bad romance options it brings me to my most hated IF. The night market, honestly I played it during the first book hype, and first off I disliked the MC personality, should’ve just made the book you clearly wanted to make. I romanced Bella before I knew her and Gabriel past which kinda put me off, but it was cool I guess problem is I hardly like linear games in the first place. Let’s skip to the thing that threw me off the Milo situation, I’m a petty person so I thought I would be able to get my payback or something in book 2. I check the author tumblr and my hatred skyrockets, oh you won’t be able to do anything? probably forced to make up and forgive poor milo. Everyone who complained about Milo and wanted to do something to him were basically called stupid and illiterate. Remember to respect author’s though even if they don’t respect you and can disrespect you when they feel like. I never said anything I just deleted the game, but I will see their tumblr pop up on my suggested follows on tumblr and scroll a bit and have a little chuckle. It might seem like it was not that deep, but I just dislike that pretentious attitude she has when it comes to any criticism about the night market. Plus the random forced poly is kinda wild. I dislike so many games, but not many times where I can say that I dislike the author too probably under 5.

nah, i get you 100%. some authors just cannot take criticism, and it shows. like, if you’re gonna make a game where the mc is locked into a specific personality, just own it, don’t pretend it’s a choice-based story when it’s really just “watch my oc make decisions you might not even like.” and the way they handle toxic characters??? unbearable. if you’re gonna make someone do mc dirty, at least give players the option to react accordingly. forcing a redemption arc or forgiveness just makes it feel like the author cares more about protecting their faves than respecting player agency.

whew. some authors love to demand respect while treating their audience like dirt the second they don’t get pure praise. if you can’t handle valid criticism without being condescending, maybe interactive fiction isn’t for you. and the forced poly?? bold of them to assume everyone wants that dynamic. like, if it’s not optional, just say so instead of acting like people are weird for not being into it.

i also remember someone pointing out how bad the romance was, and honestly?? they weren’t lying. i tried it myself, played through it, and nahhhh the real romance was between their exes, not the mc. here’s the link if anyone wants a read: https://itch.io/t/4081093/story-review-major-romance-issues
 

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Fellas, fellas, fellas... dear folks and fellow loyal citizens of Rome.
You either haven't read enough paranormal romance novels—like Dark-Hunters, or enough Harlequin novels, to understand the sheer thirst these audience have for those types of male romance options.

You can instead do as I did.

You thought that Rainn was a bad guy?
Well, how about switching things up, and play as a male MC — I mean completely male, like 50 Shades level of masculinity and not a -0 bishonen, with Rainn as the workaholic girlfriend!
I can bet, that not a single thing she says will be viewed with the same level.
I mean, she has a career to look for, right?
In the end, it won't really matter, because the book isn't even finished. Much less, the sequels.

Onto Seven from Infamous.
Play as a male ambitious MC — with a stage name Twenty-four, and only a female romanced Seven.
Would her toxicity be the same?

In my playthrough, I liked that angsty girlie Seven. What I didn't know, was the f*cking around with the MC's friends and relatives.
When does that get revealed?
And is Seven remorseful about it?

seven also ghosted mc before breaking up with them. seven is actually unhinged. ☝☝
they push mc away, make sure they feel unwanted, and then act offended when mc actually respects that boundary. seven wants control, plain and simple. if mc chases, seven wins. if mc stays away, seven still plays victim. it’s an endless loop of manipulation.

and remorseful?? lol, i hope they were. but imo seven has that “i regret the consequences, not the actions” energy. like, they might say they messed up, but only because it didn’t work out how they wanted. it’s never about mc’s feelings—just seven’s own suffering.

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In my playthrough, I liked that angsty girlie Seven. What I didn't know, was the f*cking around with the MC's friends and relatives.
When does that get revealed?
And is Seven remorseful about it?
It gets a mention during the phone call with MCs mom (during the truck stop after choosing the bus), MC thinks about how Seven made a point about being seen with people in their circle after the breakup was official; and then further confirmed via author on Tumblr.

As for remorseful... not yet (if ever)? They haven't even gotten to the point where their remorseful about the way things went down before that xD.
 
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Fellas, fellas, fellas... dear folks and fellow loyal citizens of Rome.
You either haven't read enough paranormal romance novels—like Dark-Hunters, or enough Harlequin novels, to understand the sheer thirst these audience have for those types of male romance options.

You can instead do as I did.

You thought that Rainn was a bad guy?
Well, how about switching things up, and play as a male MC — I mean completely male, like 50 Shades level of masculinity and not a -0 bishonen, with Rainn as the workaholic girlfriend!
I can bet, that not a single thing she says will be viewed with the same level.
I mean, she has a career to look for, right?
In the end, it won't really matter, because the book isn't even finished. Much less, the sequels.

Onto Seven from Infamous.
Play as a male ambitious MC — with a stage name Twenty-four, and only a female romanced Seven.
Would her toxicity be the same?

In my playthrough, I liked that angsty girlie Seven. What I didn't know, was the f*cking around with the MC's friends and relatives.
When does that get revealed?
And is Seven remorseful about it?
Is there any difference in the way they talk and act? I love it when authors actually add differences in the mannerisms and interests when there's a gender selectable RO's.
 

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It gets a mention during the phone call with MCs mom (during the truck stop after choosing the bus), MC thinks about how Seven made a point about being seen with people in their circle after the breakup was official; and then further confirmed via author on Tumblr.

As for remorseful... not yet (if ever)? They haven't even gotten to the point were their remorseful about the way things went down before that xD.
There's not really any option to be indifferent about Seven too. It's been 2 years, but everytime Seven comes across MC, it's 'goosebumps and ****' and not 'idgaf about you anymore' reactions from the MC.
 

Vamp-kun

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Is there any difference in the way they talk and act? I love it when authors actually add differences in the mannerisms and interests when there's a gender selectable RO's.
If Seven is a girl, the perspective feels different. Although the cheating bugs me. I hope it is just a "being seen with other people" instead of "doing the hanky panky with other people".
 

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Fellas, fellas, fellas... dear folks and fellow loyal citizens of Rome.
You either haven't read enough paranormal romance novels—like Dark-Hunters, or enough Harlequin novels, to understand the sheer thirst these audience have for those types of male romance options.

You can instead do as I did.

You thought that Rainn was a bad guy?
Well, how about switching things up, and play as a male MC — I mean completely male, like 50 Shades level of masculinity and not a -0 bishonen, with Rainn as the workaholic girlfriend!
I can bet, that not a single thing she says will be viewed with the same level.
I mean, she has a career to look for, right?
In the end, it won't really matter, because the book isn't even finished. Much less, the sequels.

Onto Seven from Infamous.
Play as a male ambitious MC — with a stage name Twenty-four, and only a female romanced Seven.
Would her toxicity be the same?

In my playthrough, I liked that angsty girlie Seven. What I didn't know, was the f*cking around with the MC's friends and relatives.
When does that get revealed?
And is Seven remorseful about it?
there's a reason i used they/them for those ros, because sometimes i play multiple routes with different genders of an RO. for me personally, their actions are still shitty. now if a guy or male mc is ok with an ro's actions on the basis of their gender, i would say to each their own. but i am not changing my mc's gender or personality to justify or dilute ros' problematic actions
 

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There's not really any option to be indifferent about Seven too. It's been 2 years, but everytime Seven comes across MC, it's 'goosebumps and ****' and not 'idgaf about you anymore' reactions from the MC.
referring to Seven as male and mc as female because its easier to distinguish the pronouns

The author explained this as "Seven being mcs childhood friend and thus very important to them" but tbh my only reasoning for mc reacting so strongly to Seven is because he ****ed mc up plain and simple.
Seven slept with mc's social circle out of spite, defamed her to the point that all his friends treat mc like voldermort "the one who shall not be named", lied to mc that everything was fine and he didn't have a grudge after the vote only to get mad at her because he "obviously wasn't fine" and who knows what he told her at the party.
And all this for what, because the mc demoted him in the band, with the agreement of every other member, or in some cases even voted against him being demoted? And all for reason too, everyone preffered mcs singing to his.

This is deranged behaviour. If someone did this irl we would call them a cartoon villain, yet seven is excused.

I have lost multiple friends, even a childhood friend that used to mean a lot to me. Do i have these ****ing goosebumps and cold sweat when i see them walking down the street? No, because i know they won't do anything to me. But Seven is like a ticking time bomb and mc subconsciously feels that too, hence their physical reactions to just SEEING Seven. Like either mc has some serious anxiety disorder or it's because of him.

Keep in mind this is just how i see it lol, I played with a female mc nd seven and felt this. I don't think the genders affect my opinion.
 
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