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Re336

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Aight I'm a little bit worried about the Breach series. It's the best crime IF that's been published but more and more it feels like the authors give too much focus on the Trio that sometimes even the MC is sidelined? The reason MC is there is because Gabriel, everything that's happened is plotted by the Trio, what info we receive always comes from the Trio and rarely (if never at all) do we find it out ourselves. There's also that little problem of how the MC doesn't stand out at all in the story despite being the main protagonist, and it's even more apparent when we play a weird or unhinged character (oh, your MC is crazy? guess what? these other characters are crazier so your MC is not really unique) Idk, the closer I look at it the more it seems to be another case of authors using IFs to showcase their self-insert OCs
I also feel like this throughout the first book. MC feels like those silent protagonists in jrpg (and not the good ones). We do talk, but it's never written in the narrative itself I believe? Please correct me if I'm wrong because my memory is janky. MC only talk through the choices. MC doesn't feel expressive either but that might be my fault for playing as a stoic MC. But even stoic MCs in other books I've played isn't this....I don't know, bland?
Book 2 is better but not by much. Maybe because the demo is still short. I hate that scene where MC tries to break the fight between the trio but it just comes off as awkward to me. MC feels like a pick me girl trying to stop a school fight 😭 MC feels like stranger who just inserts themself into someone else's problem.
Also, what is the point of the fbi route? I don't understand their motive. The fbi route just feels like someone who's salty because the mafia is doing much better job than them.
The Archangel is also too perfect. They never cause casualties, all the crimes they did is justified because it actually helps others (I don't really remember the details, but it was the robbery on a bank, I think? One of the bank staff was grateful of the robbery because that company was abusing their employees).
I don't see any reason that can make us sympathize with the FBI and choose to side with them
 

Fuffff

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I actually like Breach a lot, especially the FBI cover route. If Gabriel's entire character were scrapped it'd be one of my favorite IFs ngl. Isn't that mf comically overpowered and like the second coming of Christ? The FBI route would be so much better if Gabriel didn't know who you were. But if I'm not mistaken he knew you were an undercover cop from the start.
 

Fuffff

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If I remember correctly, he shot a small target from, like, a continent's distance away, survived being shot and turned into swiss cheese, survives anything thrown at him (including if you choose to shoot at him when it's revealed you're an undercover cop) and more that I'm probably forgetting (it's been a long time since I last read Breach)

The parts where Gabriel meets old acquaintances and talks to them as if he's known them for 100 years make you feel like the side-side-side character. Though for some reason I don't mind it as much as I do in Tale of Heroes where the MC is also the side character (probably because you can get cucked. At least in Breach the mute character that has a crush on Gabriel will start loving you for real if you romance her. AND because the self insert in ATOH is insufferable, Gabriel is at least funny.). At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the author revealed Gabriel is literally archangel gabriel sent by god to be a gangster.
 

SasariRomanii

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The Archangel is also too perfect. They never cause casualties, all the crimes they did is justified because it actually helps others (I don't really remember the details, but it was the robbery on a bank, I think? One of the bank staff was grateful of the robbery because that company was abusing their employees).
I don't see any reason that can make us sympathize with the FBI and choose to side with them
It will be interesting if the Archangel and FBI relationship is a bit nuanced, and not so one-sided like now where the FBI is treated like spawn of satan and the Archangels litteral god-sent. And yeah... that breaking-up-the-fight scene, I cringed so hard and have never backtracked from a choice so fast (╥﹏╥)

Also I don't think there's much difference between stoic and unhinged MC. I played as an unhinged bloodthirsty maniac but the game never acknowledge that. Not even once. There's a lack of flavor text imo, and the MC is only 'seen' (sry don't know a better word for it) by other characters after we clicked a choice, otherwise MC is just another rover that doesn't feel present in the story.

Gabriel is at least funny
It's his saving grace, but he's definitely a Gary Stu
 

seneya

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One of the bank staff was grateful of the robbery because that company was abusing their employees
My cynical a$$ can't help but wonder if they were still going to be grateful if they were laid off as a cost-saving measure afterwards. I mean, using a robbery as an excuse to downsize is exactly what an abusive company would do, no?
survived being shot and turned into swiss cheese
*gets shot from a sniper rifle*
"tis but a flesh wound"

But I think it goes for a bit of an action movie angle? In any case, it's at least entertaining to read.
 

Re336

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My cynical a$$ can't help but wonder if they were still going to be grateful if they were laid off as a cost-saving measure afterwards. I mean, using a robbery as an excuse to downsize is exactly what an abusive company would do, no?
Exactly. I'm not convinced that every crime the Archangels do has zero collateral damage. It's just weird that the people in Breach glaze the Archangels so much
 
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