Stories that left you disappointed for a reason

[yourstalkeroutside]

Speaking of IF writers being shitty people, the wild hunt and project vampire threads got locked. Honestly, the whole thing would've blown over if the author hadn't engaged, but he did with the worst possible defenses, too. The Aura clash situation has gotten a ton of white American purity polices on their high horses, attacking anything they deem even slightly out of the way in the name of being 'inclusive'. Which is probably going to do much more damage than 4channers ever would.

 

[Vanya]

Speaking of IF writers being shitty people, the wild hunt and project vampire threads got locked.

What happened? I saw the racist claims about wild hunt on reddit, but idk what happened with project vampire. To be honest I didn't understood the plot of project vampire but maybe it's because I wasn't really enjoying it.

 

[seneya]

The Aura clash situation has gotten a ton of white American purity polices on their high horses, attacking anything they deem even slightly out of the way in the name of being 'inclusive'.

Which is ironic, considering the current debacle around NSFW works, with itch.io deindexing a lot of those pending review.

Also brb, gotta go to the forums to treat myself to some drama.

 

[God]

Oh is that Mr rewrite? The dude who rewrote his story like 12 times in like 5 months? Even changing the premise

 

[seneya]

Oh is that Mr rewrite? The dude who rewrote his story like 12 times in like 5 months? Even changing the premise

What happened?

Yes, and afaik what happened is this?

 

[realman]

What happened?

Spoiler

He said that biologically children are attracted to the opposite gender and used it to excuse the mc (a child) having s*x with another child??? This is me reading the thread so i might be misunderstanding because i didnt play the wip but idk how this wasnt closed earlier. Apparently he changed it but the thread was closed anyway

 

[seneya]

Spoiler

He said that biologically children are attracted to the opposite gender and used it to excuse the mc (a child) having s*x with another child??? This is me reading the thread so i might be misunderstanding because i didnt play the wip but idk how this wasnt closed earlier. Apparently he changed it but the thread was closed anywayView attachment 24589

I think he changed this one (but I might be wrong, I only glanced at the thread), and the last drop was having light-skinned people be defined as "intellectually superior" in his other game. That other game's thread was closed by a mod when people complained, and then he (the author) went and closed his other threads, too. Changed the OP to state he won't be writing anything for a while, too.

 

[realman]

I think he changed this one (but I might be wrong, I only glanced at the thread). That other game's thread was closed by a mod when people complained, and then he (the author) went and closed his other threads, too.

I did mention he changed it, but only because people complained.
I dont know about the other game except that theres supposed to be subraces for species, and if you pick humans then all that his brain tought about was skin color. Just lazy for a fantasy imo, but whatever. I saw complains about his bad writing even without the racism and controversial stuff so I dont think anyone will really care if he stops writing

 

[God]

I did mention he changed it, but only because people complained.
I dont know about the other game except that theres supposed to be subraces for species, and if you pick humans then all that his brain tought about was skin color. Just lazy for a fantasy imo, but whatever. I saw complains about his bad writing even without the racism and controversial stuff so I dont think anyone will really care if he stops writing

Sucks I was a fan until maybe mid last year, he just started rewriting and changing the story killed his own hype immediately. MC was Asmodeus and I enjoyed the potential story, then he did like 5 rewrites. Changing the whole story and MC so eh

 

[Lyul]

I have never seen this Wild Hunt wip, but after seeing the screenshots, big yikes. The worst of all is the cog mods allowing it, it just make them seem like a bunch of hypocrites considering the aura clash discussion

 

[seneya]

The worst of all is the cog mods allowing it

My takeaway is that they'll ban it if drama blows up on the forums.
Aura Clash thread was closed with the official reason being that the author "took up too much of moderators' time", ostensibly due to all the complaints people made about him to the mods.
Project Vampire/Wild Hunt thread likewise got closed after people started complaining.
They've also created a new rule stating that authors must moderate their Discord servers/other spaces they personally create and link to the forums, so that people from there don't come over to cause trouble on CoG forums.

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

Oh is that Mr rewrite? The dude who rewrote his story like 12 times in like 5 months? Even changing the premise

I miss the original Project Vampire. Though it's a glorious tale of why you should have an outline before writing a story.

 

[Foulwarden]

I miss the original Project Vampire. Though it's a glorious tale of why you should have an outline before writing a story.

Also the rewrite is confusing, and the pacing’s is all over the place. Kinda feels like he forgot to outline again.

 

[Ranka]

So, finished the demo of OKS, three days of pure bliss and laughs, but I'm disapointed.
I'm disapointed that I cannot pass my save-states to the new one when it will come because I'm using CoM APK version, I'm disapointed because the project is so ambitious that it will never ends, I'm...
Well, let's say that I'm disapointed and sad because I like it more than it should, because, what a whacko project, the most high concept thing I've seen in this genre in a while and I'm old and I'm jaded and I've seen so many project like this that, no, I do not hope to see it completed.
Also, I'm very disapointed wth BoHN, I like it, but the author should take some of his RL takes and shove it up his ***, I hope that a better writer than him would tackle WoD Werewolf in the future.

 

[Lovecraft]

So, finished the demo of OKS, three days of pure bliss and laughs, but I'm disapointed.
I'm disapointed that I cannot pass my save-states to the new one when it will come because I'm using CoM APK version, I'm disapointed because the project is so ambitious that it will never ends, I'm...
Well, let's say that I'm disapointed and sad because I like it more than it should, because, what a whacko project, the most high concept thing I've seen in this genre in a while and I'm old and I'm jaded and I've seen so many project like this that, no, I do not hope to see it completed.
Also, I'm very disapointed wth BoHN, I like it, but the author should take some of his RL takes and shove it up his ***, I hope that a better writer than him would tackle WoD Werewolf in the future.

Wait whats the issue with the author of BoHN ?

 

[Ranka]

Wait whats the issue with the author of BoHN ?

Short version? politics and the less said the better.

Normally I don't mind, the other werewolves games (the tetralogy one, the one that the third game just got released) thrives on them for example, and I don't care, "A Song of Ice and Fire" to say a non If and stereotipical example also do It too, and I don't care.

But BoHN isn't a political game, so I don't like the keyboard warrior stance of the author shove It down my throat.

I Hope than when the Werewolf Guy ended his series and tackles WoD again, write for WtA, because Parliament of knives is excelent (in which of course there's kindred politics, but I don't care about those)

 

[yourstalkeroutside]

But BoHN isn't a political game, so I don't like the keyboard warrior stance of the author shove It down my throat.

IIRC He also created Night Road which is very political but presented in a way that's actually fitting especially since there was no real good guys. BoHN is not fitting at all. It's actually boring to read.

 

[Ranka]

IIRC He also created Night Road which is very political but presented in a way that's actually fitting especially since there was no real good guys. BoHN is not fitting at all. It's actually boring to read.

The thing with Night Roads is that after all, Vampire Politics are Vampire Politics, Kindred Politics is a staple in Vampire the Masquerade so the political stuff taht isn't that blatant are aceptable inside the norms and rules of the world that it present, Parliament is excelent and thrives on it, but, is Vampire Politics after all.
There's no place for it in Werewolf the Apocalypse, that's why 5th edition is a flop and even the authors and writters of the tabletop game are trying to minimise the stuff because people aren't buying.

 

[libur]

The thing with Night Roads is that after all, Vampire Politics are Vampire Politics, Kindred Politics is a staple in Vampire the Masquerade so the political stuff taht isn't that blatant are aceptable inside the norms and rules of the world that it present, Parliament is excelent and thrives on it, but, is Vampire Politics after all.
There's no place for it in Werewolf the Apocalypse, that's why 5th edition is a flop and even the authors and writters of the tabletop game are trying to minimise the stuff because people aren't buying.

I'll never forgive them for butchering my beloved Werewolf: The Apocalypse. As someone who spent much of their adolescence almost obsessively reading the role-playing game's manuals and supplements and who created a chronicle with some friends that lasted over two years... it was simply heartbreaking. They tore out the essence of the metaplot and cut its roots. They were shameless in not expecting that to erode the community's interest.

Decisions like turning Fenrir's brood into a traitorous tribe full of neo-Nazis or distancing the Black Furies from their connection to social and historical movements surrounding the role of women in society... they were ****ing ****.

 

[Ranka]

Yeah, I agree, I hate what they did with the game, but tis in a IF forum, let's stop talking about non if things I don't want to be accused of derailment and this is very derailed already