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Ireth313

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Which would be funny is MC is still not allowed to lash out properly 🫠
MC not being able to behave like absolute menace is so illogical tbh... They are literally a child who just saw their family being brutally slaughtered, and you are telling me there is no option to just bawl all the way to the other country or kick, bite and scream like a feral racoon? Have the author even met children? MC is at the age where prefrontal cortex is still very nascent, so naturally 'childish' and 'unreasonable' options should be the majority in the prologue because prologue!MC is just at that age where children don't plan long-term properly and have a somewhat poor impulse control.
 

cloudyday

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It was so talked about this story that I went to read it without knowing much, and yeah the treatment of the Mc made me not want to keep going, it's just so much despair, the whole cast is tied to that monster Mc has no one without ties to him and is expected to play buddy buddy, and as said above their reactions as a kid leave much to be desired, for example a common kid reaction would be to get violent, lashing out, crying during te wedding announcements and it does not feel like a revenge path is possible, also the not being able to die thing is another bleak stone in this.
 

bosslady

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Lol what made me jump ship was when the Knight who tries to be like supportive and MC's "Dad" just went and got into a relationship with the man who killed MC's whole family. Like... I don't think he gives a crap about MC if that seems logical to him.
Oh, and not forget that you can encourage that relationship. How about the option to encourage the Knight to stab the king in his sleep if he was feeling so guilty about MC's situation?
 

cloudyday

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The king who killed your family and married a child lol, I think he's the most selfish character in the story he wants to have a relationship with the Mc and also bang their husband/abuser/killer on the side, not only that, but the fact the relationship is a sign the king is healing and moving on while the Mc.... It sounds like misery **** to me (along with we wretched creatures)
 

Ireth313

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with we wretched creatures
I actually like WWC 😞✊ MC really fits the bill of being a wretched little creature, just like it says on the tin. Amusingly enough, I think this one suffers a bit from not having enough 'nice' options because oftentimes all options lead to MC turning out to be creepy\evil\pathetic... But tbf WWC MC had like zero chances to grow up normal and stable. Maybe some more aggressive options would be nice, but oh well... I may not like some of the stuff in the game, but at least the narration logic sort of logics to me, which I cannot say about CoAF.
 

cloudyday

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I actually like WWC 😞✊ MC really fits the bill of being a wretched little creature, just like it says on the tin. Amusingly enough, I think this one suffers a bit from not having enough 'nice' options because oftentimes all options lead to MC turning out to be creepy\evil\pathetic... But tbf WWC MC had like zero chances to grow up normal and stable. Maybe some more aggressive options would be nice, but oh well... I may not like some of the stuff in the game, but at least the narration logic sort of logics to me, which I cannot say about CoAF.
I think it's a writer X reader view kind of thing, besides the supernatural thing the Mc is clearly mentally unwell, but I think the author is clearly biased towards a "Mc is evil actually" playtru which shows both in game and her Tumblr, I don't think you need to excuse a protagonists actions or have them be perfect, but it's hard to pin down goodx bad, moral x immoral when someone lacks agency as much as this Mc, one exemplo is the James thing, that if you are moral Crowny blocks what they did if not it was them, but the clues Crowny is manipulating the truth / has awful memory fell meh to me (as in the birthday cake and the box with whatever they have hidden) as with all twine wips it feel like the author has a set route they wanted to follow (immoral Crowny batshit killer route).
 

Ireth313

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but the clues Crowny is manipulating the truth / has awful memory fell meh to me (as in the birthday cake and the box with whatever they have hidden) as with all twine wips it feel like the author has a set route they wanted to follow (immoral Crowny batshit killer route).
Yeah, these are the parts where I feel there is a lack of nicer options. I even asked her on tumblr why, if it is an unreliable narrator moment, it's not marked for reader as meta text, and her answer basically boiled down to 'well MC knows they are lying'. But, hey, I don't, so why not give a heads up??

I just came to the conclusion that immoral Crowny is the Crowny that never tried to be good and all the stuff around them dragged them under even deeper, and a moral Crowny tries to be good but they are still a product of toxic environment, supernatural stuff and untreated mental issues, so they are not really equipped to react to a lot of things morally. Like a child who grew up in a toxic family may know that you are supposed to treat people with kindness but still exhibit some pretty gnarly behaviours towards friends and people they genuinely care about. I think better take on 'moral' Crowny would've been Crowny trying to unlearn what has become their nature and sometimes slipping catastrophically, and not them just forgetting things. I can understand blocking off traumatic childhood stuff, but an event that happened literally a couple days ago? (the jock thing) Eh.

I am playing an amoral MC, mixing both low and high morality, and it's going pretty ok, but I cannot imagine trying to go full-on good in this game.
 

cloudyday

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Yeah, these are the parts where I feel there is a lack of nicer options. I even asked her on tumblr why, if it is an unreliable narrator moment, it's not marked for reader as meta text, and her answer basically boiled down to 'well MC knows they are lying'. But, hey, I don't, so why not give a heads up??

I just came to the conclusion that immoral Crowny is the Crowny that never tried to be good and all the stuff around them dragged them under even deeper, and a moral Crowny tries to be good but they are still a product of toxic environment, supernatural stuff and untreated mental issues, so they are not really equipped to react to a lot of things morally. Like a child who grew up in a toxic family may know that you are supposed to treat people with kindness but still exhibit some pretty gnarly behaviours towards friends and people they genuinely care about. I think better take on 'moral' Crowny would've been Crowny trying to unlearn what has become their nature and sometimes slipping catastrophically, and not them just forgetting things. I can understand blocking off traumatic childhood stuff, but an event that happened literally a couple days ago? (the jock thing) Eh.

I am playing an amoral MC, mixing both low and high morality, and it's going pretty ok, but I cannot imagine trying to go full-on good in this game.
Is a amoral Crowny an option now? I remember it being a maybe, so far I thought it was still moral and immoral
 

BiscuitB

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The king who killed your family and married a child lol, I think he's the most selfish character in the story he wants to have a relationship with the Mc and also bang their husband/abuser/killer on the side, not only that, but the fact the relationship is a sign the king is healing and moving on while the Mc.... It sounds like misery **** to me (along with we wretched creatures)
But don't they deserve happiness?? The King who wife was killed so then going a anger fuelled revenge plan and kill the MC whole family including the children , then take that child from their country and everything they know and love. Forces them into a child marriage, forces them to live in a country and castle where no one like them and pretty much hates their guts. For them to get close to someone who could be a father figure to find out sike! The king is sleeping with them. Why shouldn't he deserve another chance?

But us? The MC? Oh no we're not allow to go on an anger fuelled revenge plan, we just have to accept what's happening to us. The most we can do is burn a room down. Urgh like get over it.
 

Ireth313

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Is a amoral Crowny an option now? I remember it being a maybe, so far I thought it was still moral and immoral
Iirc the author said that if you stay in the middle but have some points in both, the game will consider you amoral. But what I meant is that from roleplaying perspective there's no conflict when you pick both and reason that your MC just doesn't have a moral compass (good or bad), period. Meanwhile, picking only moral options is sometimes jarring because the game needs to hoist some nefarious deed at you for ✨plot reasons✨, and some explanations are pretty sound (like children blocking out trauma) and some should be executed more skillfully to work (e.g. unreliable narrator; you need to hint at it to the reader and it requires some writing finesse).
 
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