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Aura Clash: leaks, sneak peaks, memes and discussion thread.

I was going to play again just to see Shakengara save my fleet, but apparently, according to what I've heard here, there was a bug.

Does anyone know if the bug has been fixed yet?
 
I will never again doubt the GOAT Shakengara. I feel ashamed for even having considered the possibility.
I think Demonic Cultivator MC should be able to rival JDF MC in the long run. Obviously not currently since we're only starting to dabble in actual demonic cultivation while JDF has innate advantage just from their very nature.

They should be a mirror of each other, one blessed since birth with power while the other is so obsessed with power that they're willing to do heinous things to get it.

Concurrently, Demonic Cultivator JDF MC should be THE most powerful version of MC, since it's no longer the dichotomy of 'talent' and 'effort', but both hand-in-hand.
Corrupt JDF can't exist, probably they already explained here. Based on discord corrupt JDF will receive some punishment soon considering its direct connection with the Heavens, which is too the source of its power. If not corrupt will just make JDF weaker at long term.
Anyway Normal/ML corrupt MC are going to be powerhouses indeed, corruption open three whole new paths, Blood Chi(Alive), Demonic Chi(Spiritual) and Death Chi(Self Explanatory). All this as sources of growth and power itself(Since we can genuinely control blood currently).
I just disagree with the "effort" part. Corrupt path at its very concept is about stealing power of life beings, spirits and the dead. Isn't additive to Thunderfall's current schizophrenic levels of hard-work.

Can't wait until we're sent diplomatically to New Yomi and meet with some Death-Lady...
 
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If that was the intention, why even bother with the rest period of doing nothing in the first place - why not just have her instantly heal us?

Having us do nothing shows us nothing about how powerful the JDF is because literally nothing about it is described or elaborated on about the process. It still takes the same rest period as the others.



Yeah? That's been my argument from the very beginning. What do you think I was talking about?

But even then, I brought up other options that would make the free time more interesting - like having John/Jane Auraclash realize that they need to actually appreciate their family more because they're the only people who actually cared about them before they became powerful (which would be a nice segway into the clan management stuff next chapter anyway). Eldra brought up that stuff but only as a joke - and I think it would have been more interesting to explore that stuff more seriously.

Someone earlier talked about the MC having to maintain "perfect harmony" during mundane everyday activities and I really liked that idea.

You could basically ignore the Eldra training scenes and nothing would be missed in the story. I haven't done a JDF playthrough yet but it seems her interactions there are a little more substantive? But even so, that changes nothing about my criticism because JDF isn't the default version of the story.

Okay - let's put this another way. Is there anyone who would dislike Eldra's option or find it less attractive if the free time spent interacting with other NPCs was instead replaced with training more in line with the other two mentors? Keeping the JDF content intact of course. If you do, could you explain why?


This too. If you're doing Mortal Limits, she's basically the only correct choice.


Kaito hands down yeah. Flayed God is kinda eh - things could totally change in the future, but I rarely find myself getting wounded in the first place even on Mortal Limits and the game sometimes penalizes you for getting wounded as well. But his training segments were the most fun for me.
Kaitos training is the best for mortal limits MCs
 
Kaitos training is the best for mortal limits MCs
Eldra's training straight up breaks your limit though, pretty sure that's what he meant. And Kaito's -2 to all cores would suck so bad especially with increased difficulty lol.

Speaking of kaito, it says the weights increase your next check by 5, but it only does it by 3 in the stat menu. And the surged cores giving you additional ap isn't mentioned when you get that ability.
 
Eldra's training straight up breaks your limit though, pretty sure that's what he meant. And Kaito's -2 to all cores would suck so bad especially with increased difficulty lol.

Speaking of kaito, it says the weights increase your next check by 5, but it only does it by 3 in the stat menu. And the surged cores giving you additional ap isn't mentioned when you get that ability.
Yeah but ML means you're going to have a lower AP and are more likely to fail checks which means it works well with Kaitos options. Plus even if you don't shatter ML you have become immortal so it no longer matters
 
Corrupt JDF can't exist, probably they already explained here. Based on discord corrupt JDF will receive some punishment soon considering its direct connection with the Heavens, which is too the source of its power. If not corrupt will just make JDF weaker at long term.
I don't mind the punishment part, I only want for that to lead to something interesting rather than JUST 'your foundation is now crippled LMAO'. If it'll culminates into you being the first ever Hell-aligned Jade Dragon, then a temporary shattering of the JDF would be a-okay to me. Imagine if you'd become something new, like an Abyssal Dragon or something and get a foundation unique only to you, the Abyssal Dragon Foundation, wouldn't that be cool and interesting? Rather than a boring nerf that goes nowhere.

I just disagree with the "effort" part. Corrupt path at its very concept is about stealing power of life beings, spirits and the dead. Isn't additive to Thunderfall's current schizophrenic levels of hard-work.

Eh, we just have different opinion on what counts as 'effort', it's cool. To me, the willingness and determination to do anything, even dirtying your own hands, to obtain power counts as 'effort'.
Also, it's more so the contrast between JDF who are naturally strong because their very nature and Demonic Cultivation who are willing to do anything to get every scrap of power they can get that I want to highlight.
 
On a different note, what do y'all think is the best work for your fleet to do during your stay in Nanhou? Even more so once you get Junk Ships?
It depends entirely on what types of ships you have, as well as whether or not you're willing to engage in piracy.

For a good MC, I like to start with transport ships and have them ferry people to/from Nanhou until I have enough prestige to get junk ships. After that, I have them salvage stuff because it pays decently well and has a chance of getting me even more ships.

For an evil MC, though, it's piracy all the way. Piracy is just lucrative, you get extra retainers AND extra ships. Start with combat ships and then upgrade to junks asap.
 
Demonic Cultivation who are willing to do anything to get every scrap of power they can get that I want to highlight.
Not to judge but I feel like you've misunderstood demonic cultivation. It's just a shortcut for convenient/easy/quick power, it doesn't take some inspiring resolve or determination to resort to it.
get a foundation unique only to you, the Abyssal Dragon Foundation, wouldn't that be cool and interesting? Rather than a boring nerf that goes nowhere.
A boring nerf sounds harsh. Some sort of punishment sounds fair and I feel would be earned in this case.
 
Eh, we just have different opinion on what counts as 'effort', it's cool. To me, the willingness and determination to do anything, even dirtying your own hands, to obtain power counts as 'effort'.
Also, it's more so the contrast between JDF who are naturally strong because their very nature and Demonic Cultivation who are willing to do anything to get every scrap of power they can get that I want to highlight.
Fair. Personally I view it as obsession. Actually more like a byproduct of obsession. The willingness of doing everything due to your ambition of being free, your ambition of be stronger...etc
Of course corrupt path is a matter of effort too, mainly internal in my opinion, also linked with obsession. You need a mental fortress to proceed with this completely isolated, needing to hide and/or being hunted, to study what the corrupted path has to offer, to apply.
The willingness to survive and overcome such extreme situations requires internal effort indeed, though our Thunderfaller still hasn't to worry about it... Yet.

I just don't consider being it as hardworking as a pure ML, for example. Or someone on the path of the righteousness.
 
On a different note, what do y'all think is the best work for your fleet to do during your stay in Nanhou? Even more so once you get Junk Ships?
Depends on what you want to accomplish.

Herbalist and Merchant-Exclusive missions are mega profitable.

Piracy and Deep Sea Salvage lead to you adding ships to your fleet.

Patrol leads to an increase in rep with the local sect, the Waverunners.

Transport leads to prestige and the chance to recruit retainers.

Fishing leads to a chance for a weak soul treasure.

For me personally, I like to do:
  • 4 ships for deep sea salvage(salvage a ship)
  • 1 ship for piracy(capture a ship)
  • 3 ships for fishing(weak soul treasure)
  • Remaining ships to Merchant runs and Patrols(money + local rep)
 
Not to judge but I feel like you've misunderstood demonic cultivation. It's just a shortcut for convenient/easy/quick power, it doesn't take some inspiring resolve or determination to resort to it.
While that's undoubtedly true, I would like to propose a question. This is a cultivation story, which means getting stronger is core to the theme. AC is also a setting where slavery is normal, so moral wise they're a lot more flexible than we are. Why then is everyone not a demonic cultivator if it's just a shortcut to power? Sacrificing people in a ritual shouldn't be THAT more depraved compared to subjecting them to lifelong slavery? But instead it's looked upon with scorn, as if it's a moral boundary that most people wouldn't cross.

The willingness and determination to cross that moral boundary is in part why I called it 'effort'. Like Jack said, you lack the drive to take things to the next level, you're not hungry enough.

A boring nerf sounds harsh. Some sort of punishment sounds fair and I feel would be earned in this case.
And I agree! Like I've said, I have no qualms with the incoming heavenly punishment, let the JDF foundation be shattered for all I care. Demonic cultivation SHOULD comes with its cost so that the choice to dabble in it would mean something. Only that I want it to lead to something interesting down the line rather than it just staying as a nerf.
 
While that's undoubtedly true, I would like to propose a question. This is a cultivation story, which means getting stronger is core to the theme. AC is also a setting where slavery is normal, so moral wise they're a lot more flexible than we are. Why then is everyone not a demonic cultivator if it's just a shortcut to power? Sacrificing people in a ritual shouldn't be THAT more depraved compared to subjecting them to lifelong slavery? But instead it's looked upon with scorn, as if it's a moral boundary that most people wouldn't cross.

The willingness and determination to cross that moral boundary is in part why I called it 'effort'. Like Jack said, you lack the drive to take things to the next level, you're not hungry enough.
I thought people didn’t practice demonic cultivation simply because it corrupts your soul and ruins your natural potential in exchange for gaining power faster, right? I’ve always seen it as something more for people who were born without any talent and need shortcuts to gain power. More than effort, I’d say it takes a lot of desperation to choose a path that will bring you so many problems.

I’m not an expert in demonic cultivation either, but I don’t see how taking power from others represents more effort than what any other cultivator does by breaking their limits through their own strength.

Only that I want it to lead to something interesting down the line rather than it just staying as a nerf.
I agree, it should lead to an interesting game over. I wonder what that scene will be like.
 
I thought people didn’t practice demonic cultivation simply because it corrupts your soul and ruins your natural potential in exchange for gaining power faster, right?
Not necessarily. Mostly because not everyone has a elite technique like Taio/Thunderfaller specifically designed to separate the Corrupted Chi from our own.
Corrupted Chi is a taint too, so if it's in contact with your "essence", or cores, you'll became a Fiend. As Taio explained in Nanhou and if I'm not mistaken Magistrate Khan too.

That's why the corrupt path is understood as a path of shortcuts and desperation at its lower level, because that's exactly what it's. Weak, unprepared and desperate people in Demonic Sects only lead towards becoming a Fiend.
But why Taio, the Blood-lord, is so strong? Why there's a entire Nation based on one of the its three main paths(New Yomi)?
At its high level the corrupt path isn't a potential cap or a desperate/shortcut path but rather a path to be studied and specialized in just like any other(Styled/Elements). Just look at Scholar/Original Taio's and their specialization in Blood Chi. At New Yomi, its Death-Lords and their specialization in Death Chi...etc.

However, if I'm not mistaken, Corrupt Path prevents you from ascending. You basically goes to a self pocket realm/One of the Hells instead. I just don't know how far they compare to the Heavenly Bureaucracy, but must be significantly below.
 
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