Stories that left you disappointed for a reason

[Vamp-kun]

Ughhh. All I want is my multilayered Orion or Seven rock star romance simulator. With the protagonist going by Twentyfour, and their old band getting called 24/7.

Can the author be done with the useless side - romance clutter?
You know, so she can focus more on Orion and Seven - our starters!

 

[Serpent]

Ughhh. All I want is my multilayered Orion or Seven rock star romance simulator. With the protagonist going by Twentyfour, and their old band getting called 24/7.

Can the author be done with the useless side - romance clutter?
You know, so she can focus more on Orion and Seven - our starters!

Noooo, because we need ****ing Sebastian to think about because, well, reasons

 

[f8butterfly]

What just happened in WIPs thread is hilarious. Authors have ways of tracking you and people leave trails online. At least wait a week before leaking anything .

Anyway, the only patreons I'm interested in leaks for happen to have paywalls for games or side content (meaning you can only access these through patreon and not through permanent purchases). I know its a very common tactic used for IF authors but it really shouldn't be and the same goes for indie Unity devs who have required patreon logins attached to their games even when paid for. I won't even pay for a patreon if I know that they do either thing. And again, this wouldn't be as much of an issue if they started releasing builds so patreon subscribers who arent leakers can also resume access to content they paid for within that time period which they subscribed. Notice how all the things I dislike and won't pay for also require a wifi connection at all times?

 

[Ireth313]

Authors have ways of tracking you

Yup, but legally if you/your paterons/the platform you are using are in EU or follow EU laws, you have to disclose that. Like, yanno, the devs that implement stuff like Denuvo have to disclose what info and how it is being collected. I work in localization so I have translated a great deal of various user agreements. By law she probably has to have big bold disclaimer on her Patreon page that goes smth like 'when you access my content, I have access to your IP address, the time you accessed the content, your Patreon name etc.'

Soooooo with that message Jude could land herself in some hot water with Patreon. But oh well... I'm not going to give legal advice on a piracy website

I won't even pay for a patreon if I know that they do either thing

Same. If I paid for patreon, I expect to keep access to stuff that was there at the moment when I subscribed. This is also a reason I moved away from music subscrption services to owning a DAP with my whole music library.

 

[f8butterfly]

Yup, but legally if you/your paterons/the platform you are using are in EU or follow EU laws, you have to disclose that. Like, yanno, the devs that implement stuff like Denuvo have to disclose what info and how it is being collected. I work in localization so I have translated a great deal of various user agreements.

Soooooo with that message Jude could land herself in some hot water with Patreon. But oh well... I'm not going to give legal advice on a piracy website

Just as bad as sims 4 modders, wow.

 

[f8butterfly]

I don't know much about trackers but if I remember the sims 4 drama correctly then each person gets a unique link/download and it tracks exactly which users download the content and when and where. Which is fd up. Yeah, I'm not subscribing to a person I know uses that. That is breaking a patron's privacy and illegal in many areas. I hope Jude is a minority in this because if you take piracy out of this scenario it is still revolting.

 

[Ireth313]

Just as bad as sims 4 modders, wow.

ETA: nvm, saw your post about them.

But, you know, I get being frustrated that things are being leaked and I'll give her that this time she made stuff public very fast. But telling people outright that you are collecting any data about them without prior warning (I assume there was none) is just not a good idea. If you want the law to protect you intellectual property (valid), you also have to follow other laws. Or at least pretend you do, but if you are only pretending, don't expect people to be lawful either, Always works both ways

 

[Serpent]

What just happened in WIPs thread is hilarious. Authors have ways of tracking you and people leave trails online. At least wait a week before leaking anything .

Anyway, the only patreons I'm interested in leaks for happen to have paywalls for games or side content. I know its a very common tactic used for IF authors but it really shouldn't be and the same goes for indie Unity devs who have required patreon logins attached to their games even when paid for. I won't even pay for a patreon if I know that they do either thing. And again, this wouldn't be as much of an issue if they started releasing builds so patreon subscribers who arent leakers can also resume access to content they paid for within that time period which they subscribed. Notice how all the things I dislike and won't pay for also require a wifi connection at all times?

They're not tracking you through wifi, because that would be some serious stuff, but what I think is the case is the connection between having to have a patreon, and her content.
You see, there are ways to track a whole lotta ****, that's actually legal. You have tracker websites which you can put on your blog/website for example, that can give you ips and whatnot, and since she does have a website, I mean...
Though she may have that one by default, due to her website, but I can't say for sure. I would need a lot more info on it all, which I do not possess

Soooooo with that message Jude could land herself in some hot water with Patreon.

Also, I don't think she has to do any of that, but Patreon has to say that.
From what I can tell, if that's an option that Patreon gives to its creators, then they need to put that they can and will give info to the creators on the people who sub to them, which tales the blame away from the creators, and puts it straight on Patreon. But still, if what she's saying is true, having access to ips and hell, what people even do with your content to an extent, that's doxxing and I don't think I need to explain possible federal cases, which doxxing is

 

[Serpent]

All in all, bragging about that is insane, especially considering what that actually is

 

[blossom1]

How do they even get access to what you do with the content? wild

 

[f8butterfly]

They're not tracking you through wifi, because that would be some serious stuff, but what I think is the case is the connection between having to have a patreon, and her content.
You see, there are ways to track a whole lotta ****, that's actually legal. You have tracker websites which you can put on your blog/website for example, that can give you ips and whatnot, and since she does have a website, I mean...

You are misunderstanding what I meant. I wasnt even talking about tracking there. I was talking about making it so that if you want to play a patreon IF or some indie Unity games you have to be on wifi. Which I dislike and wont pay for.

 

[Serpent]

You are misunderstanding what I meant. I wasnt even talking about tracking there. I was talking about making it so that if you want to play a patreon IF or some indie Unity games you have to be on wifi. Which I dislike and wont pay for.

Ohh, yeah, mb then. But yeah, it really sucks that you can't just download it and have it. Which is literally the whole point of paying in the first place.
I swear, these new if/wip writers will be like "revolt against capitalism and the fact that you have to pay for everything and possess nothing", and then will do that exact same thing smh

 

[f8butterfly]

Ohh, yeah, mb then. But yeah, it really sucks that you can't just download it and have it. Which is literally the whole point of paying in the first place.
I swear, these new if/wip writers will be like "revolt against capitalism and the fact that you have to pay for everything and possess nothing", and then will do that exact same thing smh

Then they'll reply "There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism” and that will make them feel better and morally superior. I also bet the authors using these trackers are all about internet privacy (despite having tumblrs) yet track their paying customers lmao.

 

[Ireth313]

I swear, these new if/wip writers will be like "revolt against capitalism and the fact that you have to pay for everything and possess nothing", and then will do that exact same thing smh

Nonono, you don't get it: you can pirate from big game companies when they use anti-consumer practices, but when a small creator uses the same anti-consumer practices, pirating is morally wrong /s

ETA: whenever I hear that line of thinking I also remember Gaben the Steam owner who said that the way to battle piracy is good service\platform. And methinks that man knows what he's talking about because he managed to make (pre-war) Russia of all countries his second most profitable market, as per the interviews.

 

[Serpent]

Then they'll reply "There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism” and that will make them feel better and morally superior. I also bet the authors using these trackers are all about internet privacy (despite having tumblrs) yet track their paying customers lmao.

Privacy, censorship, all that good stuff, but as long as those rules don't apply to them. If it's them, then it's a free country smh

Nonono, you don't get it: you can pirate from big game companies when they use anti-consumer practices, but when a small creator uses the same anti-consumer practices, pirating is morally wrong /s

I can understand it to an extent, but if you pull bs like that? ****ing tracking the ips and what they even do with the content? Like common now (and I'm not even talking about the anti-consumer stuff, such as continuously paying for access to a single piece of content. Just put a price tag of 300$ on it and call it a day ffs But oh, no one will buy that, yeah no ****)

 

[Gone_Dead]

I just read Excellent Cadavers not knowing the author. Holy ****, its just misery ****. The author clearly loves to torture the MC and even SA them at times. Not to mention torture the readers on top of that and not in a good way. Whats the point of personality tab if the MC is going to be the same anyway? And ofc i hated the MC. Not one second did i feel any sense of satisfaction reading it. I mean, i can see a good setting for a revenge story but the way the author writes the MC pisses me off. Theyre just a loser in all the worst ways possible.

 

[seneya]

And ofc i hated the MC

The author has a distinct writing style where neither MC nor ROs nor anyone really feel like someone pleasant to be around. But EC feels like it's, idk, overdoing it? MC aside (who it seems will get character development if the player so chooses), Dante, for example, reads like some psycho caricature.

 

[Serpent]

I just read Excellent Cadavers not knowing the author. Holy ****, its just misery ****. The author clearly loves to torture the MC and even SA them at times. Not to mention torture the readers on top of that and not in a good way. Whats the point of personality tab if the MC is going to be the same anyway? And ofc i hated the MC. Not one second did i feel any sense of satisfaction reading it. I mean, i can see a good setting for a revenge story but the way the author writes the MC pisses me off. Theyre just a loser in all the worst ways possible.

The author has a distinct writing style where neither MC nor ROs nor anyone really feel like someone pleasant to be around. But EC feels like it's, idk, overdoing it? MC aside (who it seems will get character development if the player so chooses), Dante, for example, reads like some psycho caricature.

I think that's her whole shtick, yeah

 

[f8butterfly]

I went back to Jude's tumblr post and the comments underneath are something. My favorite one is someone pretending they're a just person because their nephew waits for media to be available on streaming platforms...can we even compare? Your argument sucks. Streaming platforms are ran by billionaires. Anyone who justifies paying for streaming platforms is stupid. I'll be sure to stream those films, shows, or music through legal channels so everyone involved gets 60 cents! Just say the piracy of indie content is bad instead of saying all piracy is bad. What a loser.

 

[Ireth313]

I too went to read that post and I think I lost braincells. As a working adult (who pirates precisely because I am a working adult and my country's economy is s**t) I find such leaps of logic hilarious. Like babe, are you okay? CIS countries, Brazil and southern-eastern Europe are the piracy haven not because everyone there is a minor happily spending their parents' dime.