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Stories that left you disappointed for a reason

Grace5963 said:
I feel like flavour text has it's place, not everything needs to affect the entire game, but like for example, in the games I play, it should matter if I'm snogging someone behind my main partner's back, but it shouldn't matter how I greet a single character the first time I meet them, other than to raise/lower relationship and personality stats, which should matter over time but not from one act alone. both types of choices are important.
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Oh I get that. Not even I was insane enough to make every single choice matter, simply because sometimes, it truly doesn't matter (stuff like some random reactions of mc towards God knows what). But I'm talking about stuff like personality, how others see you after some interactions, something in regards to the looks of the mc, personality stat choices that matter and not be there just for the sake of them... There are obviously some more important things, but something that I was more aiming at is something that is "general", when in reality it shouldn't be.
Otherwise, it just feels like mc is a ****ing figment of someone's imagination, with no tangible place in the story
 
LtheStoryteller said:
Oh I get that. Not even I was insane enough to make every single choice matter, simply because sometimes, it truly doesn't matter (stuff like some random reactions of mc towards God knows what). But I'm talking about stuff like personality, how others see you after some interactions, something in regards to the looks of the mc, personality stat choices that matter and not be there just for the sake of them... There are obviously some more important things, but something that I was more aiming at is something that is "general", when in reality it shouldn't be.
Otherwise, it just feels like mc is a ****ing figment of someone's imagination, with no tangible place in the story
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As a rule, I like to think 'would this matter in real life' and if the answer is yet, I want it to matter in the game, even if it's not right away. I'm okay with delayed consequences as sometimes life is slow to bite you in the arse but generally, if it matters in life, it has to matter. I also think this is why I'm disappointed with some of the games that's being rewritten because the choices matter but the writing is worse or not sitting quite right. Summer of Love is the latest one for me, although their edit after getting criticism did actually help so I'm hoping we'll be okay and so long as our choices continue to matter, I can live with it's current quality, mostly because my interest in IF is specific and I can't really afford to be picky if I'm being honest
 
yourstalkeroutside said:
Aw, you think they read that. They listen to summaries of it on Tik Tok or YouTube, maybe skim the description and first few chapters before abandoning it. Call me a boomer but kids these days don't have the attention span to read much less finish a book. Not even the Tik Tok stories (those books can be thick).
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Actually, given that many IF authors are neurodivergent (disclaimer: that's not me judging them), I'd assume many of them read a lot of stuff on whatever the hyperfixation is. And many of them are, for a lack of a better word, nerds (hey, I am one myself), so that comes with being predispositioned towards reading. It's just that being an avid reader doesn't make you a good writer or vice versa. Imo, to be a good writer you need a very rich inner or outer life, a lot of life-related, sensual, cognitive, or emotional experiences you can process and transform into smth unique or interesting. And that's where many aspiring writers (and tiktok ones) fall short. Then you also need to add dedication on top of that (which is hard to come by, especially if you are creating for free for a crowd of spectators not all of which are nice).
 
LtheStoryteller said:
Lack of creativity, and understanding how humans actually function
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Like you have any yourself. All you do is complain and spread hate yourself.
yourstalkeroutside said:
Aw, you think they read that. They listen to summaries of it on Tik Tok or YouTube, maybe skim the description and first few chapters before abandoning it. Call me a boomer but kids these days don't have the attention span to read much less finish a book. Not even the Tik Tok stories (those books can be thick).
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Kids these days’ is usually what people say when they ran out of actual arguments. Plenty of people still read books, they just don’t treat reading like a personality trait. And Funny how people always blame ‘kids these days’ instead of admitting attention spans dropped because every generation built faster entertainment. Also kinda wild to complain about people not reading while writing essays on TikTok users.

You and Ltstoryteller are the same pods. No wonder all you do is spread hate
 
yourstalkeroutside said:
I pointed out COVID boost, Our Life Demos and kickstarter happened around 2020 and lockdowns. It's the original popularity from XoXo Droplets (having an established fanbase of your work) that got Our Life it's foot in the door and Covid did the rest of the work. Had Our Life released now, it wouldn't even be half as popular and that's just a fact.
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Imagine getting jealous because Our Life is popular. It is popular because the story is that good and there's a lot of freedom in the choices.
 
Blair31 said:
Imagine getting jealous because Our Life is popular. It is popular because the story is that good and there's a lot of freedom in the choices.
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so to use ur own words against u "imagine getting jealous "is usually what people say when they ran out of actual arguments.
also here's a clear cut definition of what jealousy is, because to assume what op expressed is jealousy they gotta be a VN maker whose poor game got overshadowed by our life is great or ur just that sheltered to the point A negative opinion solely made out of personal preferences and tastes nd reflections is making u shake in ur boots with anger and frustration.
 

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Blair31 said:
Like you have any yourself. All you do is complain and spread hate yourself.
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Let me take a look from some notes that Serpent had sent me, because I'm blacklisted everywhere it seems (the ones below)
Obviously I'm the one going around and spreading hatred. Obviously
Also, you can clearly see how people who don't want to contribute in hating me are gang pressed to do so.
And unlike you and your friends, I do have evidence of everything I say, which is usually just the truth, and not just trust me bro. I wouldn't even be showing these, if you haven't decided to be a good little sjw friend of theirs.
Now, I have more of these, but I'm just chilling! Oh, and one more thing, considering you come to me with that bullshit, you should have told them to stop spreading hate and all that when I told them to leave me the **** alone, but double standards are just that great I guess

To conclude, I just don't give a **** most of the time. Serpent is the one who's more invested in this (mainly because no one should want me to actually get invested that much, for undisclosed reasons), because unlike the people in the pictures (aside from the two covered; you know who you are and I appreciate you) he's a real friend of mine.
So yes, I see when Vamporg says I shot her? (not here, but I have that one as well, on courtesy of Serpent) I mean ****, I must be the greatest sniper ever, since there are a couple countries separating me and her, or even better when Jude said that I punched her tit? Continents away, by the way, and sure, I am tall and all, but my arms aren't that long. And not even sure who the Matt character even is, aside from just some retard plucked from somewhere, but yeah. Just saying
I can send a bunch of stuff, but as I said, I'm not going to (unless you force my hand). So yeah, I recommend letting me chill
 

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LtheStoryteller said:
Let me take a look from some notes that Serpent had sent me, because I'm blacklisted everywhere it seems (the ones below)
Obviously I'm the one going around and spreading hatred. Obviously
Also, you can clearly see how people who don't want to contribute in hating me are gang pressed to do so.
And unlike you and your friends, I do have evidence of everything I say, which is usually just the truth, and not just trust me bro. I wouldn't even be showing these, if you haven't decided to be a good little sjw friend of theirs.
Now, I have more of these, but I'm just chilling! Oh, and one more thing, considering you come to me with that bullshit, you should have told them to stop spreading hate and all that when I told them to leave me the **** alone, but double standards are just that great I guess

To conclude, I just don't give a **** most of the time. Serpent is the one who's more invested in this (mainly because no one should want me to actually get invested that much, for undisclosed reasons), because unlike the people in the pictures (aside from the two covered; you know who you are and I appreciate you) he's a real friend of mine.
So yes, I see when Vamporg says I shot her? (not here, but I have that one as well, on courtesy of Serpent) I mean ****, I must be the greatest sniper ever, since there are a couple countries separating me and her, or even better when Jude said that I punched her tit? Continents away, by the way, and sure, I am tall and all, but my arms aren't that long. And not even sure who the Matt character even is, aside from just some retard plucked from somewhere, but yeah. Just saying
I can send a bunch of stuff, but as I said, I'm not going to (unless you force my hand). So yeah, I recommend letting me chill
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I need the commenter with the "new account" flair alongside their equally little conspicuous reactors with the same affliction to take a quick look at the thread title, them immediately jumping into the fray to attack u was just abt suspicious as hell lmaooo. you'd expect someone being sent to dog sh*t talk another to at least do a better job at it than some "hrmmph all u do is spread hate, hate, hate, grrrrrrrrrr I hate u, also ur a meanie and jealous"
 
Mondy said:
I need the commenter with the "new account" flair alongside their equally little conspicuous reactors with the same affliction to take a quick look at the thread title, them immediately jumping into the fray to attack u was just abt suspicious as hell lmaooo. you'd expect someone being sent to dog sh*t talk another to at least do a better job at it than some "hrmmph all u do is spread hate, hate, hate, grrrrrrrrrr I hate u, also ur a meanie and jealous"
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The last part is pretty much their argument, and is always backed up by the ultimate evidence, of them just hating me on principle I suppose 😂
Also, yeah, new account, made 10 days ago, which first literally went and put an angry emoji on my comment on VanillaGlue's profile post, where I said that I know Bible, like, the ****?😂 If that doesn't scream that that one hates me, I don't know what it does😂

Edit: Oh wait, was Jaded's jealous post meant for me? Me? Jealous? Of anyone in the IF community?
My brother in Ra, I am the sin of pride personified, I couldn't care less about any of them 😂 If I say that they don't read, and that they aren't creative, I say that because I'm pretty sure it's the truth.
As for my creativity Blaire? Go ask around. Go ask Nike, if I haven't given her million ideas on some other story of hers, and not Agents of Lucifer.
Go ask Bellamy if I haven't helped with some plot hole (pre rewrite of Suevi).
Hell, go ask Jude if my creativity haven't led me to discovering the main plot and idea behind WWC, before ever even reading a line from that work.
And once you get your answer, come back here, and post those. See what they say about my creativity.
 
Mondy said:
I need the commenter with the "new account" flair alongside their equally little conspicuous reactors with the same affliction to take a quick look at the thread title, them immediately jumping into the fray to attack u was just abt suspicious as hell lmaooo. you'd expect someone being sent to dog sh*t talk another to at least do a better job at it than some "hrmmph all u do is spread hate, hate, hate, grrrrrrrrrr I hate u, also ur a meanie and jealous"
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I've seen better trolls
 
Blair31 said:
It is popular because the story is that good and there's a lot of freedom in the choices.
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>Our Life
>Meaningful choices

The only choices that matter in that VN are all customiztion options. The protagonist has a set personality and you only have one LI unless you buy a DLC and even then you kinda have to suffer through a forced attraction to Cove to get there even on a strictly platonic route.

The only reason Our Life got popular was because of COVID.
 
yourstalkeroutside said:
>Our Life
>Meaningful choices

The only choices that matter in that VN are all customiztion options. The protagonist has a set personality and you only have one LI unless you buy a DLC and even then you kinda have to suffer through a forced attraction to Cove to get there even on a strictly platonic route.

The only reason Our Life got popular was because of COVID.
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I don't understand the big deal, since there's no shame in that. Many things became popular during covid because people were bored, and once it passed, people stopped entertaining it. I've seen literal places that were never a tourist attraction become one simply because people couldn't leave their countries, and games were no different.
Not sure why one would go to such lengths at defending something as unserious as that
 
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