When the hg brand was established the 20-something% was a holdover from the cog author contract (who get paid a bunch during the writing process) . apparently the intention was always to change it, but that never happened and the discussion about it is conveniently missing from the forum... They do that a lot
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Very convenient indeed
Just goes to show that no one should work with them anymore, and should just focus on creating things themselves, publishing by themselves. Especially considering that there are a plethora of places where they can easily do that
Agreed. I wonder if CoM should make their own CS interpreter so authors can keep all their profits and dont have to convert to twineVery convenient indeed
Just goes to show that no one should work with them anymore, and should just focus on creating things themselves, publishing by themselves. Especially considering that there are a plethora of places where they can easily do that
That would be a delight. Buuuuut, from what I've seen, and have heard, the AC creator had made his own coding thing (something like cside?) and is trying to implement it like that?
I would never use it, since I know how to code in Twine and soon in VSCode (I just need to get acquainted with the app first), but if he ever decided to create a rivalling thing to CoG, I'll be the first to join (as long as we can agree on the money side of things
)Shouldnt be a problem.. As long as you use 100% of your own code they cant prosecute you. Some company already did itThat would be a delight. Buuuuut, from what I've seen, and have heard, the AC creator had made his own coding thing (something like cside?) and is trying to implement it like that?
I would never use it, since I know how to code in Twine and soon in VSCode (I just need to get acquainted with the app first), but if he ever decided to create a rivalling thing to CoG, I'll be the first to join (as long as we can agree on the money side of things
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Everything is improved. It's basically like Twine, but better, though it's more of a regular type of coding than Twine is, while CSide is complete dogshit.
I swear, that is the simplest of programs imaginable, and yet it works like ***. Codes don't always work, it is as if I'm loading 100000000 terabytes of every information ever, even though it's just some plain text... So yeah, safe to say I don't like that one
I swear, it's as if I'm trying to hijack a NASA space shuttle, and not just write the simplest of words and codes
also, iirc, you can use any coding language in vscode, so if you're someone who codes various things (python, java, html, etc), vscode is pretty much the go-to.Everything is improved. It's basically like Twine, but better, though it's more of a regular type of coding than Twine is, while CSide is complete dogshit.
I swear, that is the simplest of programs imaginable, and yet it works like ***. Codes don't always work, it is as if I'm loading 100000000 terabytes of every information ever, even though it's just some plain text... So yeah, safe to say I don't like that one
I swear, it's as if I'm trying to hijack a NASA space shuttle, and not just write the simplest of words and codes
I think this is why most other authors have trouble speaking to you. Attacking anyone's intelligence or appearance instead of actually making any points is seen as unintelligent. Saying slurs randomly disrupts the flow of a conversation. Someone expressing their discomfort about you saying a word is the whole reason why you quit another site, you're unable to take criticism when it comes to boundaries. Just as you say "let them express their opinions", I am also allowed to share mine. As for no one getting offended that is a lie.
I've already called them out for using slurs, apparently the R one isn't a slur according to them. I am willing to listen to some of their takes, like they're right on certain things, but their attitude towards other authors because they were called out for being a bigot is telling and so I'm taking a lot of that aspect with a bowl of salt.
When I said let them express their opinions, I was literally talking about others, but you as well, as can be seen from the last part of that whole message that you pointed out.
Also, no, no one has trouble talking to me, only mental people have trouble doing that. Because for instance, where have I attacked anyone's appearance? Or are we just bullshitting on the spot now? And also, I'm always making points, unlike you. You're just saying **** to say it, while I back up everything I say, and if I'm not certain about something? Then I say that it's my opinion, which may or may not be.
But when one takes into consideration that you think that a word retard is a slur, I just don't see how anyone can ever actually talk to you, because people who think that don't listen, ever.
Oh, and by the way, that is not why I quit Tumblr. Though I must say, it is cute that you think that just because you're a friend from their inner circlers somehow makes you all knowing, and by default you know my reasoning. So sorry to break it to you, but your assumption is quite false.
Also, I am able to take criticism. I'm unable to take bullshit, simple. You tell me not to use it, I ask why, you say it's a slur, I say it's not, and then you move along. Don't try to change my view simply based on your vibes, just how I won't try to actively change your views on anything. Those aren't boundaries, that's language policing and censorship over freedom of speech, which is something that I thought you were all for? But nah, that's just one of many shields people who think like you use
And on the final note, if one gets offended or doesn't get offended is their problem, not mine. I can't be held responsible for how someone else feels.
I'm responsible for how I talk, how I act, how I carry myself, and how and what I think. That's about it. How others feel about that is their problem, and considering that normal people have no problems with that, I meeeaaaan
I'll take being right on certain things
Also, it's not "according to me". I ask anyone single one of you, to go to the oxford dictionary, and look up if it's a slur or not. Because you'll find out real quick that it's, if anything, a medical term. Word retarded would be closer to what you have in mind, according to dictionary, even though that's still not a slur.
And my attitude towards other writers is because they have back stabbed me, not because they decided to threw a bunch of bullshit titles my way. Calling me a bigot means as little as calling me literally anything else
Though honestly, I am not even sure why I'm entertaining any of this anymore
Also just pointing this out to you again, in case you want to continue your discussion with me. Unlike you, I don't completely limit my account here to only me, so you can actually send me messages and not clog the thread with unrelated stuff
Did you miss what I actually said to you about it?
I agreed it's a clinical term for cognitive disability. However it has been removed from legal terminology in many countries, due to it's usage as a slur, and if you check the oxford dictionary, it classifies this usage as old-fashioned and widely considered deeply offensive. If you're going to use sources, I suggest you be factually correct about them.
No, it classifies the word retarded, which I did point out, not the word retard. Also, no, it's only classified in a handful of countries, not even the majority. I even went over this.
Only the west, and not only the whole west, but "modern" west.
So yeah, safe to say that I was factually correct, but only if you read carefully what I say, and don't skip it!
Only leftists are calling it a slur, while literally everyone else say that it isn't, and that everyone else is the vast majority of human population
It's literally all it says for the word retard, which I also pointed out earlier. So yeah, next time, if you decide to twist my words by ignoring things that I point out, do a double check
The irony of citing Oxford to prove your point is that Oxford is precisely what disproves it. You quoted the verb definition, to retard something, meaning to slow progress, which is labelled formal and has nothing to do with how you're using the word. When you write "those retards lost their minds," or "As for the retarded detectives of the if community," you're not using a formal verb. You're using it as a noun and adjective to describe people you disagree with, which is an entirely different entry, and that one Oxford labels offensive, with a usage note explicitly telling you to use different language instead.No, it classifies the word retarded, which I did point out, not the word retard. Also, no, it's only classified in a handful of countries, not even the majority. I even went over this.
Only the west, and not only the whole west, but "modern" west.
So yeah, safe to say that I was factually correct, but only if you read carefully what I say, and don't skip it!
Only leftists are calling it a slur, while literally everyone else say that it isn't, and that everyone else is the vast majority of human population
It's literally all it says for the word retard, which I also pointed out earlier. So yeah, next time, if you decide to twist my words by ignoring things that I point out, do a double check
So you didn't just miss the point, you cited the wrong definition entirely and then declared yourself factually correct. That's not careful reading. That's finding the part of the dictionary that suits you and stopping there.
The argument that it's only considered offensive in "the modern west" or by "leftists" also doesn't hold up when Oxford University Press, a 500-year-old British academic institution, is the one calling it offensive. They're not exactly known for radical politics. They updated that entry because the evidence of harm was overwhelming enough that a centuries-old dictionary decided it warranted a warning. That's not ideology. That's lexicography catching up with reality.
And here's the thing that actually undermines your whole point: you used the word to mean stupid people who overreacted, among other things. Which means you're not just using a slur, you're using a slur that specifically targets disabled people as a synonym for stupidity. That's not a neutral rhetorical choice. The reason people reacted isn't because Tumblr is a cesspool of the perpetually offended. It's because you called people a word that exists, in its noun and adjective form, specifically to demean people with intellectual disabilities, and then framed the blowback as proof that they're the problem.
I use VSCode as well(Not just for CS & Twine stuff but actual things). The difference between an actual program built for coding with the added bonus of Twine & CS extension is night and day when compared to the dogshit CSIDE.That would be a delight. Buuuuut, from what I've seen, and have heard, the AC creator had made his own coding thing (something like cside?) and is trying to implement it like that?
I would never use it, since I know how to code in Twine and soon in VSCode (I just need to get acquainted with the app first), but if he ever decided to create a rivalling thing to CoG, I'll be the first to join (as long as we can agree on the money side of things
Also, Anon built a framework that works on top of the Twine codebase, along with a compiler, a quicktest+randomtest program etc etc
He basically replicated all the useful things from CS in Twine.
GOAT **** honestly, and he released it. You can literally go here, and you can even find out about game release under that framework and how the money will be split(hint, he isn't CoG's stupid 75% Pre-tax cut)
Reducing an entire game to white liberal fantasy just because it depicts a supportive environment is such a chronically online take. Mind you, I'm not an American White like you're stereotyping.
And God forbid a game shows people communicating like adults instead of treating emotional damage as a personality trait
Either it was originally written as a novel or it was written/heavily edited by AI. I'm leaning towards the latter due to how wordy it is.
There's communicating like adults and a supportive environment and then there's having next to 0 issues and problems, everyone is happy with everything and there's nothing that can't be solved by talking out your feelings or waiting it out.
That's just a fantasy for sterile, sanitized people who ironically can't talk like adults or handle any problems because they feel that every little comment made is an attack towards them and that life should never ever ever inconvenience them beyond a simple argument (and that's a big deal because how dare others have opinions that doesn't match my own, they should agree with me and decisions 100% of the time). The type of person who have never faced a real problem or an actually unsupportive environment, but they've convinced themselves that their parents getting upset that they quit their job/dropped out of collage is 'abuse' and 'emotional damage'.
No one in Our Life behaves like an actual person. They behave like the extremely sanitized and sterile idea of a person by the type of person I described above. They don't ever communicate like adults (which includes knowing when to agree to disagree with something, when not to engage in something or when something is not talking about you particular in a generalized statement) they communicate like Tumblr's ideal of adulthood where supportive is confused with always agreeable
But a hit dog will always holler.
I think it’s genuinely funny how some people see a wholesome, emotionally supportive environment and immediately conclude it must be 'fake,' 'sterile,' or only relatable to privileged white Americans. Apparently, if a story doesn’t revolve around constant dysfunction, cruelty, or unresolved trauma, then it’s suddenly unrealistic. Again that says more about your worldview than it does about the game.
Our Life was never trying to be a gritty social commentary on suffering. It’s a comfort-focused visual novel built around emotional openness, healthy communication, and personal choice. The fact that the characters usually solve problems by talking things through isn’t bad writing, it’s literally the point. Not every story needs screaming matches, toxic relationships, or emotional repression to feel real. Some people actually enjoy stories where characters are kind to each other without needing a tragedy every five minutes to justify it.
And the irony here is hard to ignore. You’re criticizing the game’s fans for supposedly being oversensitive and unable to handle disagreement while writing an entire rant because fictional characters were too emotionally available for your liking. You keep calling the game sanitized but what you really seem to mean is that the characters don’t behave with the level of bitterness or dysfunction you personally associate with realism.
At the end of the day, disliking the game is completely fine. Not every story resonates with everyone. But reducing it to 'white liberal fantasy' because it portrays supportive relationships is just an unnecessarily cynical reading of a game whose entire purpose is comfort and emotional sincerity. Some people don’t need misery to see humanity in a story
Says more about you than anything else.